Notices
General Cycling Discussion Have a cycling related question or comment that doesn't fit in one of the other specialty forums? Drop on in and post in here! When possible, please select the forum above that most fits your post!

Steel vs Aluminum

Old 06-26-14, 03:28 PM
  #26  
Señor Member
 
Wilfred Laurier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 5,066
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 649 Post(s)
Liked 292 Times in 215 Posts
tires make a much bigger difference
than frame materials
in defining ride quality

get the bike that fits best
and if there is a tie in that department
get the bike you like best for any other reason
eg
colour
lbs preference
component spec
Wilfred Laurier is offline  
Old 06-26-14, 04:39 PM
  #27  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Vught, The Netherlands
Posts: 378

Bikes: Van Nicholas (Titanium) Deveron, Pinion 18 speed, Gates belt, disc brakes; Brompton - 5 speed Sturmey-Archer

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 15 Post(s)
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
I'll agree with what Wilfred wrote regarding tires and riding comfort.

I spent a small fortune on my current bike and swapped out just about everything to get the bike to my liking. I found the bike rather uncomfortable on the very common brick roads over here, the bike would register every change in the surface I rode on. The idea of lowering air pressure to make the ride more comfortable escaped me.

I had learned that lesson a long time ago ... and had forgotten it. (I feel rather stupid having to admit that publicly.) Once I lowered the air pressure the ride was much more to my liking, it was a different bike.

Having the handle bars adjusted to your liking as well as the tire air pressure and saddle height account for more than anything in my opinion.

(The only reason I bought a titanium frame, the brushed aluminum frame I initially wanted could not be delivered by the manufacturer.)
Dave Horne is offline  
Old 06-27-14, 10:09 AM
  #28  
905
Full Member
 
905's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 272
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 42 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 35 Times in 18 Posts
Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver
Ride quality is a function of the geometry and all the contact points of the bike with the tyres being the most important followed pretty closely by the saddle.
Originally Posted by Wilfred Laurier
tires make a much bigger difference
than frame materials
in defining ride quality
How true.

I took my Langster for a spin today. This is a fairly high strung aluminum machine which has never given me cause for complaint before, but which mostly sits in the garage after the pecking order was rearranged a few years ago with the introduction of this box of tubes.

Thinking what a sad state of affairs it is when a perfectly good bike doesn't get exercise, the two of us journeyed o'er hill and dale to get to know each other again.

The bike itself felt fine. Alas, the ride was dead as a very dead thing. Partway through it suddenly struck me: it must be the tyres. They are a type I haven't bought in years which are renowned for their puncture resistance, as well as for a less than lively feel. I didn't worry too much about how they felt back when they were the only tyres I used to buy when I valued puncture resistance over all else.

Now, this bike had originally come with different tyres, which had probably influenced me when I had bought it on impulse; these dead-feeling things were only on there because when the originals had worn out I parked my no-longer-favourites on them and forgot about it even as I half forgot about the bike.

The tyres may not make the bike, but they can certainly unmake it.


Parked in front of recycling bin, which accepts aluminium however it's spelt

Last edited by 905; 06-27-14 at 10:15 AM. Reason: Spelt: it's not just a grain
905 is offline  
Old 06-27-14, 10:15 AM
  #29  
Señor Member
 
Wilfred Laurier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 5,066
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 649 Post(s)
Liked 292 Times in 215 Posts
Originally Posted by 905
How true.

I took my Langster for a spin today. This is a fairly high strung aluminum machine which has never given me cause for complaint before, but which mostly sits in the garage after the pecking order was rearranged a few years ago with the introduction of this box of tubes.

Thinking what a sad state of affairs it is when a perfectly good bike doesn't get exercise, the two of us journeyed o'er hill and dale to get to know each other again.

The bike itself felt fine. Alas, the ride was dead as a very dead thing. Partway through it suddenly struck me: it must be the tyres. They are a type I haven't bought in years which are renowned for their puncture resistance (my experience: so-so), as well as for a less than lively feel. I didn't worry too much about how they felt back when they were the only tyres I used to buy when I valued puncture resistance over all else.

Now, this bike had originally come with different tyres, which had probably influenced me when I had bought it on impulse; these dead-feeling things were only on there because when the originals had worn out I parked my no-longer-favourites on them and forgot about it even as I half forgot about the bike.

The tyres may not make the bike, but they can certainly unmake it.


Parked in front of recycling bin, which accepts aluminium however it's spelt

my main ride so far this year
has been an aluminum touring bike
with 38mm tires

the wide tires make it easy to ride on rough
and unpaved roads
like the majority of the roads around here

i promised myself that i would put racier tires on
as soon as the rear 38mm tire is worn out
and i have two sets of tires waiting
a set of 25mm conti gatorskins
and a mixed set with a basic cheap 28mm and a specialized armadillo 28mm
and i was going to use the 28mm tires
until I remembered the ride quality of the armadillos
and realized i might be better off with a slightly harder 25mm tire
that actually has some give in the casing
Wilfred Laurier is offline  
Old 06-27-14, 12:16 PM
  #30  
Thread Killer
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Posts: 12,422

Bikes: 15 Kinesis Racelight 4S, 76 Motebecane Gran Jubilée, 17 Dedacciai Gladiatore2, 12 Breezer Venturi, 09 Dahon Mariner, 12 Mercier Nano, 95 DeKerf Team SL, 19 Tern Rally, 21 Breezer Doppler Cafe+, 19 T-Lab X3, 91 Serotta CII, 23 3T Strada

Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3126 Post(s)
Liked 1,694 Times in 1,025 Posts
All you need to know about why steel is so bad-a**ed, and über alles today and forever:


Man! That makes my quads swell with pride, my veins pump with the urgency of EPO!!

Aluminium...pfftt.
chaadster is online now  
Old 06-27-14, 12:20 PM
  #31  
Humvee of bikes =Worksman
 
Nightshade's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 5,362
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times in 6 Posts
iMO there is but one material to make a bike frame from.

Lugged steel!
__________________
My preferred bicycle brand is.......WORKSMAN CYCLES
I dislike clipless pedals on any city bike since I feel they are unsafe.

Originally Posted by krazygluon
Steel: nearly a thousand years of metallurgical development
Aluminum: barely a hundred, which one would you rather have under your butt at 30mph?
Nightshade is offline  
Old 06-27-14, 12:29 PM
  #32  
cowboy, steel horse, etc
 
LesterOfPuppets's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: The hot spot.
Posts: 44,777

Bikes: everywhere

Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12736 Post(s)
Liked 7,635 Times in 4,050 Posts
I generally like steel bikes.

Aluminum main tubes glued to steel rear triangle and head tube was pretty nice also, however.

LesterOfPuppets is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
bobbyl1966
General Cycling Discussion
80
02-09-16 02:30 PM
Pina
Commuting
103
11-30-12 08:08 PM
hozman67
Singlespeed & Fixed Gear
62
06-20-12 02:50 PM
memonroe
Classic & Vintage
12
10-22-10 05:28 PM
stumpjumper476
Mountain Biking
41
06-15-10 08:33 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.