Best frame pump for Hybrid Road + Mountain Bike (considering will also carry CO2)
 

Need to buy a new frame pump after a friend somehow destroyed mine despite it looking quite burly.

Is there a pump that can handle road bikes (+100 PSI), hybrid road bikes (85-90 PSI) and mountain bikes (50-65 PSI) all very well? Or at least hybrid road bikes (85-90 PSI) and mountain bikes (to 65 PSI)?

I've seen road bike pumps that have very small diameter cylinders to reach higher pressures, but take forever to pump up a tire. And mountain bike pumps wouldn't be capable of the higher pressures of road bikes. It's been a while since I bought one, so maybe there's a do-it-all pump out there.

I also plan to carry a C02 inflator - given that, is this the Lezyne Pressure Drive CFH Mini-pump with CO2 a good bet? Or is it better to have a separate C02 inflator?

Is it worth getting one with an integrated pressure gauge, or just keep a separate gauge? If a separate gauge, which one to use?

I love my Topeak Road Morph G. It has an integrated pressure gauge and it's easy to get my hybrid or road tires up to pressure.

Topeak Mountain Morph or Road Morph. I have one of each. They work.

Amazon.com : Topeak Turbo Morph Bike Pump with Gauge : Frame Mount Bike Pumps : Sports & Outdoors

We have one of these; is not slow to put 100 psi into 38-622 tires on our tandem. A standard floor pump is faster.

CO2 leaks much faster than compress air - if you need to top off once a week with air, then you will need to do so daily with CO2. It takes a LOT of CO2 if you are going from empty to full on a tire. CO2 is most effective for topping off, because it is stored at such a high pressure, there is not very much difference in flow rates between initial filling and 150psi.

Ditto. The Mountain Morph is what you want for the larger volume tires. The short hose and foot peg make it very easy to pump to high pressures.

I've had mine for nearly ten years. They haven't let me down.

Lezyne Pressure Drive or Pressure Drive CFH with C02?
 

The Topeak Road Morph didn't review too highly at Outdoor Gear Lab, which has good quality reputable reviews. They cited cons as "Bulky and heavy. Hard to get a good seal. Inaccurate gauge", though noted the benefit of the footpad design : Topeak Road Morph Review - OutdoorGearLab

They picked the Lezyne Pressure Drive as Editor's Choice. Small or Medium? I'd think Medium for the great volume for larger tubes:

Lezyne Pressure Drive - Mike's Bikes - Road and Mountain Bike Shop, components, parts, accessories, service and repair

Would you suggest the Lezyne Pressure Drive CFH with CO2, or to use a separate stand-alone CO2 inflator?

IMO: if the Lezyne is better than the Topeak Morph, it better pump up the tire by itself. My Road Morph has never failed to work and is a lot smaller than the pump I switched from: the classic Silca Impero.

"Better" of course depends on what you most value. The Topeak Morph looks like a very nice pump and is certainly a better design than what I carried mountain biking years ago. It looks like the Lezyne is much lighter, more compact and seals better, and the tradeoff is that the Lezyne is harder to pump at the higher pressures. Since I plan to carry CO2, and don't need to inflate to super high road pressures (90 max for the hybrid road bikes), I'd be OK with that.

Why have you started two other threads that cover the same topic in this thread??

BTW, frame pump or CO2 is best used as insurance- something you hope you'll never use, but glad to have it when you need it. Top off with a floor pump at home, maintain proper pressure to avoid pinch flats, use tire liners, and puncture-resistant tires and you may never have to use your portable inflation device.

Thanks no1mad, agreed, but it's amazing how many times my frame pump and C02 got me or more often someone else, whether in my group or not, out of a jam. I'm just getting back into cycling and catching up on the current dependable tools and best practices. I'm deeply grateful for the very helpful info and suggestions members have shared - been catching up a lot in a short time. Also been learning from a good local bike mechanic every week or so.

Re the other thread, the question of 1) frame pump with or without CO2, and 2) which CO2 device is best, are different questions than which frame pump is best.

Do the tire liners go between the rim and the tube, or between the tube and the tire?

Which tire liners do you recommend? Do puncture-resistant tires need them?

Which puncture-resistant tires do you recommend? Do you recommend them for hybrid road as well as mountain bikes?

I think I remember reading somewhere about "gatorskin" tires - are these puncture resistant tires?

I think every bike I've bought here in Holland came with a pump mounted on the frame. I never liked any of them and if I needed air on the road would travel to gas station.

My €4,000+ bike also came with a tire pump and since I have no plans on using that pump I removed it. I check the pressure (by feel) every so often and use a floor pump to add extra pressure.

I've never tried those CO2 canisters and that seems like a good way to go.

If you have presta valves, any frame pump or mini should have a short hose so that you dont apply pressure to the stem and break it. Been there done that, and that why my mini has a short hose.

Did it when I first started riding. You learn quick that way lol...Which pump do you use?

Anyone try the Lezyne Micro Floor Drive HPG? Like Topeak Morph G only with metal foot
 

Anyone try the Lezyne Micro Floor Drive HPG? You can find it on sale for only about $8 more than the Topeak Morph G, and the Lezyne has a metal fold out foot in place of the plastic one on the Topeak. I like that the design of both pumps allows you to use body weight to pump more efficiently.

Lezyne Micro Floor Drive HPG - Mike's Bikes - Road and Mountain Bike Shop, components, parts, accessories, service and repair

I use one on my hybrid and road bike. Pleased with it, worked well on the one occasion I had to use it on my road bike. I carry it in a Topeak trunk bag on the hybrid and use the included mount on my road bike.

Thanks Ed I'm surprised more have not commented on it - it basically looks like a more durable version of the Topeak Morph G that's still lighter.

I use a Zefal or a Topeak frame pump. The trick is to brace the rim on your shoe to keep it from moving around. Then give the pump a firm slap when you want to separate it from the valve.

topeak road morph g.

I wound up buying a used frame pump from a colleague, and it was run over in the driveway by a friend, so this thread will come in very handy now.

Both the Lezyne Micro Floor Drive HPG and Topeak Road Morph G go to 160 PSI, have integrated gauges, kick out foot rests for stability and are close in weight, with the Lezyne a little lighter.

Has anyone tried both of them?

Do you think the integrated gauge on the Lezyne Micro Floor Drive HPG is worth it, or better to go with the lower prices HP model and use a separate tire gauge (or just go by feel and only use a gauge at home)?

Lezyne Micro Floor Drive HPG and HP

HP: 300mm | 150g
MAX:
160psi | 11bar
HPG: 300mm | 194g

Lezyne - Engineered Design - Products - Hand Pumps - High Pressure - Micro Floor Drive HP/HPG

Topeak Road Morph G

220 g / 7.74 oz ( w/ inline gauge)

http://www.topeak.com/products/Pumps/RoadMorphG

I have a lot of pumps, I own mostly Lezyne and Topeak, and quite frankly I like them both. The Topeak Road Morph is the easiest to use of any bike mounted pump but it's a half frame pump and not a true mini and it looks ungainly. Hybrid bikes usually don't use more than 70 psi so a pump like the Topeak Mountain Blaster or the Lezyne Pressure Drive are fantastic and well built pumps, of those two I would lean towards the Lezyne because I like the hose concept and you can get it in either a small or medium size, the medium size will make pumping a tire a breeze, plus it looks nicer. Also those two pumps use a larger chamber which means you get more air into the tire per pump vs the thinner Topeak RaceRocket or the Lezyne Road Drive which means less strokes to get to 70 psi, but the thinner ones will get there too of course but take a lot more strokes.

Personally I see no need for a CO2 if your not racing. You can inflate a tire with a pump in about 1 minute without the cost of carts or disposal issues. If you use a CO2 please don't throw your empty carts on the side of the road like most CO2 users do, be responsible and take the cart home and recycle it. There isn't any reason to have two pumps when one gives you unlimited free air supply.

Lezyne does make a Pressure Drive hybrid pump that also can be used with a CO2 cart, if CO2 is your thing but want the backup of a pump this pump would allow you to carry just one item instead of a pump and an inflator. Of course you still need to carry the carts which you can put into your seat bag or the Lezyne gives you a cart strap you can attach to your seat post or along side the pump. Lezyne also makes a water bottle cage with a bracket built into the side of the cage just for that pump to fit into.

Presta Valve.. The New Frame Fit Silca .. are nice .. Impero Ultimate Frame Pump | SILCA

"The Best" will cost more, of Course .. and you did ask about Best.

Thanks Rekmeyata, great suggestion. I like the Lezyne Pressure Drive again for the flexible tube because I've taken out a Presta valve by accident before (and have seen others do it). It is a bit lighter and more compact than the Lezyne Micro Floor Drive HPG, but no gauge.

I agree - I no longer see a need for CO2 with a large enough volume pump. And when I used them in the past I always took them back for recycling. Drives me crazy when people litter whether on the street or in the wild.

Any suggestions for a good, inexpensive light gauge. Just want to avoid overinflation. The tires on the Specialized Sirrus or Trek FX 7.2 I'll pick up I'm guessing go to 85 PSI, and for street riding I'd probably keep them at the max inflation but of course wouldn't want to go over.

What's crazy is when I'm on the road and have a flat I don't even check the pressure! I just go by how firm the tire feels, if you try this and aren't sure simply squeeze the other tire to get a feel for it. Lezyne makes a great little pen gauge that is built into the hose which then simply replaces the hose in your Lezyne pump, no separate gauge to carry around! It cost about $26 and only works for the medium length and large length Lezyne pumps, not the small length ones. Any gauge you can buy will cost you $20 to $30 so the pen gauge isn't a bad deal. Make sure you save the original hose just in case the pen hose ever breaks.