Salsa Gel Cork Tape - Lead warning on the back label...
08-12-14, 11:31 AM
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Probably lead in the dies. They don't need lead, but lead in dies and paints is still common in China, and this is probably a few mils cheaper per roll.
BTW- the lead warning rules these days are pretty strict, so it may not be meaningful amounts of lead, or even any, but a warning label where nobody is likely to read it is cheaper than lab testing to prove that there's no lead.
BTW- the lead warning rules these days are pretty strict, so it may not be meaningful amounts of lead, or even any, but a warning label where nobody is likely to read it is cheaper than lab testing to prove that there's no lead.
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08-12-14, 12:51 PM
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California may need a' rumor of posible lead' label , where GMO in your food labels is illegal ..
08-12-14, 12:59 PM
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08-12-14, 01:37 PM
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Fyi
Just got a reply from Salsa themselves. Guess it has to do with California Prop 65...
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"Hey Dragos,
We get this question a fair amount. We don’t put bad things into our products.
That warning is due to something in California called “Prop 65”
California’s Prop 65 applies to EVERYTHING within the state or brought into the state. If you ever visit there, you will notice that every building open to the public has a “Prop 65” warning notice by the front door. This is because something inside the building might contain lead or any of several hundred other substances that are listed by the State of California as hazardous materials. It is also because California allows private parties and their attorneys to enforce the Prop 65 law against anyone that they find is exposing the public to, or selling anything that contains, one of the many regulated substances. This is why every building owner has a sign – so they don’t get sued.
The bicycle industry like all other industries has repeatedly been a target of these lawsuits. These lawsuits are typically resolved by manufacturers paying hundreds of thousands of dollars to the private parties and their lawyers, without any actual proof ever being presented that the public was ever harmed or threatened with harm. It is unfortunately just cheaper to settle than fight in court.
Prop 65 gives manufacturers two choices to avoid potential liability: (1) Design products and conduct rigorous and ongoing batch testing to ensure that no component part of any finished product ever contains more than a mere trace of lead (or any of the hundreds of other regulated materials), or (2) attach a warning label to inform consumers that there might be one or more chemicals in the product so they can take appropriate measures, like washing their hands.
Due to the variability of the content of metals and raw materials, it is virtually impossible to produce any product that would consistently pass testing, and the added and ongoing testing costs to do so would make the product unaffordable. The result is that manufacturers who sell products into California now use the warning label option even if the product poses no risk to the consumer. Manufacturers who do not do this are simply future targets for Prop 65 lawsuits.
The product you purchased is safe. It is common sense to wash your hands before eating in case you have handled anything that might be contaminated with something you don’t want to ingest, or what is far more likely to cause harm, bacteria or a virus.
Ironically, what is not safe is trying to do business in California seeing as how that’s where this company was started in the first place.
I hope this is helpful to you. Have a good one. "
Dark brown color, BTW.
"Hey Dragos,
We get this question a fair amount. We don’t put bad things into our products.
That warning is due to something in California called “Prop 65”
California’s Prop 65 applies to EVERYTHING within the state or brought into the state. If you ever visit there, you will notice that every building open to the public has a “Prop 65” warning notice by the front door. This is because something inside the building might contain lead or any of several hundred other substances that are listed by the State of California as hazardous materials. It is also because California allows private parties and their attorneys to enforce the Prop 65 law against anyone that they find is exposing the public to, or selling anything that contains, one of the many regulated substances. This is why every building owner has a sign – so they don’t get sued.
The bicycle industry like all other industries has repeatedly been a target of these lawsuits. These lawsuits are typically resolved by manufacturers paying hundreds of thousands of dollars to the private parties and their lawyers, without any actual proof ever being presented that the public was ever harmed or threatened with harm. It is unfortunately just cheaper to settle than fight in court.
Prop 65 gives manufacturers two choices to avoid potential liability: (1) Design products and conduct rigorous and ongoing batch testing to ensure that no component part of any finished product ever contains more than a mere trace of lead (or any of the hundreds of other regulated materials), or (2) attach a warning label to inform consumers that there might be one or more chemicals in the product so they can take appropriate measures, like washing their hands.
Due to the variability of the content of metals and raw materials, it is virtually impossible to produce any product that would consistently pass testing, and the added and ongoing testing costs to do so would make the product unaffordable. The result is that manufacturers who sell products into California now use the warning label option even if the product poses no risk to the consumer. Manufacturers who do not do this are simply future targets for Prop 65 lawsuits.
The product you purchased is safe. It is common sense to wash your hands before eating in case you have handled anything that might be contaminated with something you don’t want to ingest, or what is far more likely to cause harm, bacteria or a virus.
Ironically, what is not safe is trying to do business in California seeing as how that’s where this company was started in the first place.
I hope this is helpful to you. Have a good one. "
08-12-14, 08:15 PM
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08-12-14, 08:41 PM
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Brilliant. Put an inane warning label on EVERYTHING and people wind up ignoring ALL warning labels, making them useless.
It's left as an exercise for the reader to determine the antecedent of "them".
It's left as an exercise for the reader to determine the antecedent of "them".
08-12-14, 08:49 PM
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I recently bought some plywood. It was stamped with a label that "this product may contain wood dust which may cause cancer". No joke.
08-13-14, 03:32 AM
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There are many, many things in California that can cause cancer and death (according to the labels) I live in a different state so I am fine. 
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08-13-14, 09:09 AM
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where labeling food for GMO contents.. ballot initiative .. was met by Monsanto and DuPont's etc. big money to defeat it's passage attempts .
