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jyl 08-20-14 05:50 AM

Pitlocks With Horizontal Dropouts
 
Has anyone personally used Pitlocks with horizontal dropouts?

Is it as bad an idea as some say?

fietsbob 08-20-14 09:39 AM

I suspect you cannot get them Tight enough to keep the axle from being pulled forward.

Mechanic's conceptual Workaround? A longer hollow axle secured with a nut, then the pitlock just prevents the nut from being removed (perhaps).

I personally have a QR axle with a regular skewer & dont live in PDX.. stick to your U lock & hardened security-chain ..



but the hands on pre testers for you can still reply (bumped 4U)

jyl 08-20-14 11:14 AM

The other option is a Pitlock just for the front, and U lock for the stays and rear wheel.

Once you start buying Pitlocks, the cost of doing both axles is not much more than the cost for front only. A rear Pitlock would allow using a smaller/lighter "mini" U lock that captures just the frame. That's why I'm asking. Thanks.

dynaryder 08-20-14 05:27 PM

When I put the 700's on my old 1x1,I used a bolt-on rear skewer,and didn't have any issues.

Pinhead makes these. They can be tightened with a wrench,so should work fine.

xenologer 08-20-14 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by fietsbob (Post 17054340)
Mechanic's conceptual Workaround? A longer hollow axle secured with a nut, then the pitlock just prevents the nut from being removed (perhaps).

crescent wrench on the nut, unbolt with leverage to spare, much smaller pitlock gets taken along for the ride and unscrews (or broken)



Originally Posted by dynaryder (Post 17055824)
Pinhead makes these. They can be tightened with a wrench,so should work fine.

seems a major oversight that you only get 1 security nut with the key
thief could unbolt the opposite (normal)dropout, then use a wrench on the axle itself from the inner side of the pitlocked dropout,
unbolted without any need to grab the pitlock nut, its own friction holding it steady

fietsbob 08-21-14 08:43 AM

So what did the North American seller/distributor suggest ? Pitlock locking skewers

jyl 08-21-14 10:00 AM

The official recommendation is to not use Pitlocks with horizontal DOs. I may use the Pitlock only on the front axle, or may try it on the rear anyway. The bike will be ridden by a 120 lb boy/spinner, not a 250 lb Clyde/masher . . .

fietsbob 08-21-14 11:01 AM

the serious hardened steel heavy Chain left at the school Bike rack remains a choice..

maybe a Banjo bolt will keep the axle from slipping if you cant get things tight enough..

scrolling down, Peter has solid axle rear pits listed for alfine 9.5mm & Rohloff 10mm solid axles , says 1 side pit-locked will do.
they are Nut substitutes not skewers..

dynaryder 08-21-14 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by xenologer (Post 17056172)
seems a major oversight that you only get 1 security nut with the key

Don't know what's up with the website,but the packages I've seen at the local shop had both nuts. Amazon and Public show them with both nuts.

fietsbob 08-22-14 08:59 AM

only really need one , though(theoretically) vandals may take the other standard nut when they cant get the pit-nut Off

jyl 08-22-14 09:03 AM

The Pitlock skewer for QR axles has a low-profile, conical shape. I think it would be difficult to grab and turn with ViseGrips or pliers, although I'm sure that given time and enough tools, one could figure something out. I've never seen the Pitlock solution for solid axles, but I will be looking into that to protect the generator hub I'm putting on the daughter's college bike.


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