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Old 04-02-05, 10:41 PM
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Worth leaving Houston for Boise?

My wife and I (with two kids) want to leave Houston, and Boise is the most realistic choice as my employer has a significant presence there. Basically, we want to get out of this smog-filled, car-worshipping, no-easy-access-to-outodoors suburban craphole of a place. My question is, will Boise be any better? I've read a lot about how Boise is growing (too fast), and sprawling, and in my mind I'm wondering is Boise just a smaller version of Houston? I've never been there, but I'm considering taking a week or two this summer and flying up there, bringing the bike, and checking the place out.

How is access to the outdoors? Is it possible to get out of the city by bike without getting killed on a freeway? And what about longer touring, are there any good routes between Boise and places like Missoula, MT?
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Don't know much about the sprawl in Boise, but I know that no matter what, the air quality there will be about 1400% better than in Houston. Been to Houston twice, and despite being warned about the air quality, I was just amazed at how bad it was. In March no less.

Good luck either way.
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Houston is a car town.... I spent some time there as my Bro lives there. Boise is a nice place and you are close to Montana.. that makes it perfect. Boise, like many areas in the NW, is growing very fast and property is kinda spendy.
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Leaving Houston for anywhere is worth it.
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You'll love Boise, great climate, skiiing close to town (30-40 minutes), great road riding, superb mountain biking and hot springs. Best of all, nice size town. You could do worse!
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Houston is a flat, hot, humid, polluted hell...tell it "hasta la vista, baby", and don't look back.
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Originally Posted by ****godo
Leaving Houston for anywhere is worth it.
Anywhere but Dallas, That's a step down.
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Doesn't Boise have mountains? Anywhere with mountains is better than not having mountains.

I bet it's more than nice enough to warrant taking a trip up there to check things out.
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Originally Posted by Kokoro
Anywhere but Dallas, That's a step down.
When was the last time you lived in Dallas? It's great here.
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The local weekly in my home city (Spokane) ran a series of articles a couple of months ago comparing Spokane to Boise. Here's one called The Boise Mystique. I've never been to Boise myself, but it looks like there may be air quality and sprawl issues. On the upside, the article claims that it's bike-friendly, and of course you will have great access to outdoorsy activities.
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Old 04-03-05, 02:41 PM
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Say what you will about Houston . . . at least I can ride all winter long.
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Say what you will about Houston . . . at least I can ride all winter long.
And I have. However, being Norwegian by birth and upbringing, cold winters don't scare me. In fact, moving to a place that offers skiing in winter far outweights the pleasant Houston "winters".

I've pretty much decided on taking a trip to Boise this summer to check out the place.
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Well, today in Houston, I rode my bike through the Museum District to the Japanese Culture Festival at Hermann Park. About 80 degrees. Blue sky and breezes off the small lake near the Zoo. Thousands of people. Dozens of people on every sort of bike...bike riders from age eight to eighty. Interesting music, good food, and "Japanese beer" made by Molson in Canada.

Then a bike ride through the Rice University campus...watched a young lady riding VERY fast on the Rice bike track...so I stayed OFF the track...then over to Rice Village to look at vintage books...finished with a ride past the wonderful old homes of Southampton.

Houston, on a sunny April day, is not a bad place for a bike rider "inside the Loop"...just don't wander out to the "Hell on Earth" known as the "Suburbs of Houston"...where Suburbans reign, by the thousands.

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Old 04-04-05, 10:53 AM
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Samundsen,
I tried to send you a private message with my contact info on it but you are not set up to recieve them. Send me a private message with your email or phone and I will contact you regarding one of the greatest places I have ever been. I would send you my email on the open forum but I fear miners. I would also love to meet/ride with you when you come here this summer. Cycling in Boise is outstanding if you like to climb hills, but technical MTB riding is limited close to town. Rock climbing, mountaineering, skiing/snowboarding, world class kayaking, hiking, paragliding; it is all here or within a couple of hours drive! Mountains all the way to Canada to the north; dessert all the way to the Sierra Nevadas to the South. 4 VERY distinct seasons (although Boise is always 10 degrees warmer than the rest of Idaho). Housing pricing is decent (new build roughly $90-120/sqft), but traffic is horrible (two-lane farm roads turned two-lane commuter roads as farms have become subdivisions); seems worse than phoenix or even L.A. if you are headed west in rush hour (45 minutes to get 6-9 miles). Growth is stifled by mountains on the North and East so traffic is destined to get worse on the West and South. You will have no problem finding stuff to do and buddies to do it with here!
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Originally Posted by Kokoro
Anywhere but Dallas, That's a step down.
hey, I resemble that remark.

Kokoro you in the area?

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Old 04-04-05, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Sawtooth
Samundsen,
I tried to send you a private message with my contact info on it but you are not set up to recieve them. Send me a private message with your email or phone and I will contact you regarding one of the greatest places I have ever been. I would send you my email on the open forum but I fear miners. I would also love to meet/ride with you when you come here this summer. Cycling in Boise is outstanding if you like to climb hills, but technical MTB riding is limited close to town. Rock climbing, mountaineering, skiing/snowboarding, world class kayaking, hiking, paragliding; it is all here or within a couple of hours drive! Mountains all the way to Canada to the north; dessert all the way to the Sierra Nevadas to the South. 4 VERY distinct seasons (although Boise is always 10 degrees warmer than the rest of Idaho). Housing pricing is decent (new build roughly $90-120/sqft), but traffic is horrible (two-lane farm roads turned two-lane commuter roads as farms have become subdivisions); seems worse than phoenix or even L.A. if you are headed west in rush hour (45 minutes to get 6-9 miles). Growth is stifled by mountains on the North and East so traffic is destined to get worse on the West and South. You will have no problem finding stuff to do and buddies to do it with here!
Thanks, I've turned on PMs and sent you a note.
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Originally Posted by Sawtooth
but traffic is horrible (two-lane farm roads turned two-lane commuter roads as farms have become subdivisions); seems worse than phoenix or even L.A. if you are headed west in rush hour (45 minutes to get 6-9 miles).
that's discouraging to hear, but i'm not surprised. are they widening any of those old farm roads? i've found when that happens the speeds pick up quite a bit.
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Originally Posted by Sawtooth
Samundsen,
I would send you my email on the open forum but I fear miners.
Using the format name[AT]isp[DOT]com will tend to foil miners.
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Originally Posted by samundsen
And I have. However, being Norwegian by birth and upbringing, cold winters don't scare me. In fact, moving to a place that offers skiing in winter far outweights the pleasant Houston "winters".

I've pretty much decided on taking a trip to Boise this summer to check out the place.
Boise is cold in the winter, but rather dry. You will not see huge snow's or rains.

Great local ski hill, Bogus Basin, and Sun Valley or Brundige couple of hours away.

Bikes in Idaho are allowed to treat a stop sign as a yield.
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I lived in Idaho from 1991 to 1997, in southeast Boise from 1994 to 1997. I have a love/hate relationship with the city myself.
Weather- Boise has moderate temperatures in winter for the region and while it snows, it doesn't usually stay long and is not a problem on the streets or bike trails for over a few hours except on rare occasion. The city of Boise did not own snowplows when I lived there so that tells you something. Boise is at the edge of the desert with annual rainfall totals at around 15 inches. Isn't much by Houston standards I'm sure, but Boise can get days on end of cold drizzly crap that is miserable (NorCal does too...). Temperatures can be very erratic in spring, one day it's in the 70s, the next it's in the 40s which can be frustrating when your mind wants to put winter behind. Summers are beautiful. Highs can and do hit 100 on occasion, but it is dry and very tolerable, compared to Houston, it will be delightful. Boise can appear pretty brown to people from more eastern locales. Though the city is well irrigated, with plenty of mature trees and green grass and the local irrigated farmland is pretty, the desert and mountains visible from Boise, gets lime green in the average spring for a few weeks and then it's brown till it snows. As a native mid-westerner, while I thoroughly enjoy the desert, it weighs on me after extended times, especially in winter. Just too stark for me.
Not really weather, but for me, the most wonderful environmental factor about Boise is it is at the extreme edge of Mountain Time Zone, actually west of Palm Springs, Ca. What does this have to do with anything? Combined with it's northern lattitude it means long days in summer. I will always miss this about Boise. I did a quick check and in late June the daylight hours in Boise are 15:27, Houston 14:04, almost an hour and a half more daylight. With the location previously mentioned in Mountain Time, the sunset in late June is at 9:29pm vs 8:25 in Houston. As an outdoors person having visible light till 10pm is wonderful .
Location. Boise is wonderfully situated for the outdoorsman, cycle, sky (both water and snow), fish, hunt, inline skate, kayak, hike, mountaineer, on and on, Boise is in pretty good company as a premier Western location. Culturally, Boise's location sucks (ducks quickly). Boise is at least 7 hours by car from either Salt Lake or Portland, so if Boise doesn't have what you want, your out of luck unless you plan a big trip. If cowboys and indians and a few miners history is all the culture you need, you won't mind. Boise has come a long way though in this area in the last 20 years. A thriving college campus, lots of immigration from Ca (though looked at as a huge negative by natives, for transplants lots of good has come about, Boise got it's first regional mall in the late 80's ), and a growing artistic community has helped Boise take large steps culturally above anything else in Idaho. I don't know how it will compare to Houston, I've heard good and bad stories, I do know that it sucks compared to any of the major coastal cities in CA, OR, or WA.
People/City Life. If you choose to live in Boise you will find a fairly active city life, with generally friendly people, at a mild pace. As a transplant from Texas, you won't find ill will, if you have California transplant friends, it will be obvious how they are despised in places. Family life is generally good, the city gears events towards families, there are aquatic centers, plenty of regional parks, skate parks, good schools, fairly good medical facilities, though most serious medical issues will take you to Salt Lake City for very competent treatment. The city is full of good coffee shops, an oasis amidst a 500 mile radius of coffee boredom, the nightlife however is very pedestrian and the city generally goes to sleep just after sundown.
Dining quality is dependent what you demand of dining, comparable to Houston, probably yes, comparable to San Francisco, no. My one complaint about Boise is it sometimes has an air that it is cooler and more chic than it is, sometimes Boiseans can get a little stufffy about Boise, I've known other ex-Boiseans who've felt the same way, it's not a big deal, it's just irritating. One thing that always cracks me up is the comments about the traffic. Boise can have heavy traffic just like anyplace, it has grown faster than the infrastructure the last twenty years, but what cities haven't? Boise's traffic is as comparable to Los Angeles as it's skyline is to NYC's. If you live in the City you'll never know it exists. If you live in the suburbs, you'll get the typical suburban commute. While I didn't live in the outlands, they are typical, sprawling suburbs, though at Boise size, you don't have to live 50 miles out of city center to afford any land, just 10 to 20.
Cycling Boise has a great bike trail that is 30? miles long running from northwest Boise to Lucky Peak Reservoir along the Boise river, it is pretty darn flat however and can be pretty crowded at times. Probably more known for its inline skate population than its biker community, biking does thrive. City traffic is reasonably calm for riding in and city street speed limits are very low (major arterials at 35mph...arghhhh). While I've never done it, the climb to Bogus Basin seems to be popular and challenging. I would imagine rural Idaho not being terribly friendly to road cyclist, lots-o-rednecks. One serious drawback on Idaho mountain cycling, especially as compared to California. Most rural mountain roads in Idaho that are not major highways are gravel. No single lane paved climbs to 8000 feet without seeing a single car, unless your on a mountain bike.
Intangibles . Electricity costs, very low, among the lowest in the country thanks to the mighty Snake River. Gas cost, higher than Texas for sure, always suprising to me, comparable to California. Above quoted houseing costs are correct. Housing prices boomed in the '90s, but from my viewpoint, and I still watch the Boise housing market on occasion, have lost steam the last 5 years. Taxes are moderate. State sales tax is 5%? I think still??? Politics in Idaho is decidedly Republican, there are only 4 Democrats in the Idaho Senate, two from Boise, one from Pocatello, and one from Sun Valley. If you are a Democrat in Idaho, the best way to get elected is to run as a Republican and many eastern Idaho legislators are just that. If you consider the NY or LA Times Liberal, Boise media would be considered moderate, if you consider those papers moderate Boise media would be considered just left of Limbaugh . Air quality in Boise is good most of the year. It can absolutely suck in winter though. Boise is a valley on the west side of a mountain range that goes to ~9000 feet and is subject to temperature inversions in the winter that trap pollutants (lots of woodsmoke) in the valley makeing for just terrible air at times. Often in early spring it will be 30 and cloudy in Boise and 55 and sunny at Bogus Basin, the ski resort above Boise. Air quality in the rest of Idaho can be like you have never seen before however. In Eastern Idaho it is not uncommon to be able to see the Grand Teton in Wyoming at ground level from over 120 miles away. The clarity can be spectacular.
Hope this helps in some way. While I prefer my current location, Boise is certainly an enjoyable place and a wonderful place to raise a family. Definately worth checking out, let us know how what you think.

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Have fun cycling on the ice .

Why do you have to stay with your current employer?

When I think of Idaho I think of Napoleon Dynamite.
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Originally Posted by ****godo
When was the last time you lived in Dallas? It's great here.

Seems like most of the people with comments don't spend a lot of time in [city]. I live in Houston, love visiting DFW and Austin/San Antonio/hill country.
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Originally Posted by Bontrager
Have fun cycling on the ice .

Why do you have to stay with your current employer?

When I think of Idaho I think of Napoleon Dynamite.
Sweet....

I'm 50+, but I enjoyed the hell out of that quirky little movie, as does my teenage son (who owns a T-shirt that says something about his "mad tetherball skills").

It was one of my favorite movies from last year, and I recently bought it on DVD (after much searching).
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Originally Posted by Bontrager
Have fun cycling on the ice .

Why do you have to stay with your current employer?
Why not? I like my current employer, make good money, have been with them for almost 12 years, have good benefits and 4 weeks of vacation. I'm not a job hopper..... I'm just terribly sick of Houston.
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Originally Posted by Stealthman_1
I lived in Idaho from 1991 to 1997, in southeast Boise from 1994 to 1997. I have a love/hate relationship with the city myself. [...]
Great comments, thanks a lot!
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