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What is a Fred?

Old 11-23-14, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Garfield Cat View Post
Its like having the cast of "Big Bang Theory" get into their bike clothes and riding. Except Penny, of course. Just wondering if viewers like her new short hairdo.
This longtime viewer likes the short hairdo.
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Old 11-23-14, 09:05 PM
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For me, "fred" is synonymous with "really uncool" and I would describe a fred as someone wearing ill fitting, low end clothing, possibly a mirror somewhere, visor helmet, mountain bike pedals on a road bike, and misplaced accessories. Clip on aero bars with a rider more upright than I am on the tops of my bars, and going 15mph on flats is maybe the most fred thing I can think of. Basically anyone who buys every accessory and none of it makes sense is a fred.

Cliff's notes: walk into performance bike and you'll immediately be able to define "fred".
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Old 11-24-14, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by bmcphx View Post
For me, "fred" is synonymous with "really uncool" ... (snip)
I suspect that this sums it up. The exact definition is likely in the head of the person making the assessment/judgement. Having accessories, clothing, bike-type or bike-mods that would be considered 'uncool' by the 'in-bicyclist-crowd'. The most common usage that I've heard usually involves accessories &/or bike modifications - the more of these equals more 'Fred'.

I'm fairly certain that a guy I saw recently would qualify via most roadie definitions: long wheelbase recumbent, permanent panniers, flag, large mirrors & two-way radio headset permanently installed in helmet.

As mentioned earlier, for many 'cool' types, any recumbent immediately qualifies.
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Old 11-24-14, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by RL7836 View Post
As mentioned earlier, for many 'cool' types, any recumbent immediately qualifies.
So this qualifies as "Fredly"?

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Old 11-24-14, 02:15 PM
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That qualifies as one of the freddest things that have ever existed.
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Old 11-24-14, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bmcphx View Post
That qualifies as one of the freddest things that have ever existed.
Awesome!
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Old 11-24-14, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by delcrossv View Post
So this qualifies as "Fredly"?

I call it cool. Bet its fast.
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Old 11-24-14, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by krobinson103 View Post
I call it cool. Bet its fast.
Very fast.
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Old 11-24-14, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by delcrossv View Post
Very fast.
Nice bent like that might be nice for shorter randos and events as well. Looks very comfortable as well as being more aero than a standard bike.
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Old 11-24-14, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by krobinson103 View Post
Nice bent like that might be nice for shorter randos and events as well. Looks very comfortable as well as being more aero than a standard bike.
That too, but it's mostly for TT's
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Old 11-25-14, 08:22 AM
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May I give you some free advice here. If you happen to come up against a bent rider on the bike above, make a right turn so you are not embarrassed!!!!!! But then----------------the embarrassment will be short lived as he will drop you like like a hot poker.
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Old 11-25-14, 08:26 AM
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Actually a fred is someone that dont give a damn about what others think---------most people dont think anyway. BTW people that buy the "kit" to impress others will have a pretty thin wallet.
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Old 11-25-14, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
Actually a fred is someone that dont give a damn about what others think---------.
That would be a Lone Ranger*, not a Fred. A Fred is more likely to be self-conscious by nature, striving for Peak Fred*. Bike-Dork is not a bad synonym.

*Attribution to BSNYC
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Old 11-25-14, 02:46 PM
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A Fred is the guy that shoaled past me at two lights in a row during my commute home last night: he rode a CAAD with tons of lights, panniers, wore full kit and stood in front of me at each red light with his arm sticking out to the left for the entire time.
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Old 11-25-14, 03:38 PM
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It is amazing how many varying definitions of Fred have been presented.
@t x Props to the guy for holding his arm out that long.
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Old 11-25-14, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by joeyduck View Post
It is amazing how many varying definitions of Fred have been presented.
. . . and they're all correct!
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Old 11-25-14, 04:48 PM
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one common theme here (at least in pictures) is HED wheels.
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Old 11-25-14, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by bmcphx View Post
one common theme here (at least in pictures) is HED wheels.
We're excused as FLO doesn't make 650c's
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Old 11-26-14, 02:50 PM
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That's it: I TOTALLY NEED A JERSEY WITH FRED WRITTEN ON IT. Irony! ...does that make me a hipsterfred?
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Old 11-27-14, 03:04 PM
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...does that make me a hipsterfred?
Nah you got gears on your bikes. Get a fixie and an earflap hat, ditch the helmet and we may be talking.
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Old 11-28-14, 12:01 AM
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I first heard of 'Freds' in snarky remarks on bikesnobnyc, a blog that,like Seinfeld, is about nothing. In a presumed position of superiority, the Bikesnob..Eban Schwartz or somesuch... has a regular blog posting series where he disparages anybody or everybody for anything related to cycling. His humor wore thin, quickly, for me.
Freds may have older or more curious roots, but thats where I first heard the phrase. I dislike the judgemental position labeling someone a 'Fred' entails. Cycling is what you need it to be. I don't like art critics, either.
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Originally Posted by jgadamski View Post
I first heard of 'Freds' in snarky remarks on bikesnobnyc, a blog that,like Seinfeld, is about nothing. In a presumed position of superiority, the Bikesnob..Eban Schwartz or somesuch... has a regular blog posting series where he disparages anybody or everybody for anything related to cycling. His humor wore thin, quickly, for me.
Freds may have older or more curious roots, but thats where I first heard the phrase. I dislike the judgemental position labeling someone a 'Fred' entails. Cycling is what you need it to be. I don't like art critics, either.
What is rational thought doing on the internet?
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Originally Posted by Retro Grouch View Post
If your clothing has any logos that you didn't get paid to wear, you are a poseur.
Yep! This. I will remember this line.

so ... it's like morons and maniacs when driving. Anyone going faster than me is a maniac, and anyone slower is a moron.

The cyclist who spend more on kit than me are the poseurs, and the ones who spend less are the Freds?

Once again the centre of the universe is found and I am already here.
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Old 11-30-14, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by auldgeunquers View Post
Yep! This. I will remember this line.

so ... it's like morons and maniacs when driving. Anyone going faster than me is a maniac, and anyone slower is a moron.

The cyclist who spend more on kit than me are the poseurs, and the ones who spend less are the Freds?

Once again the centre of the universe is found and I am already here.
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