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Old 08-20-18, 02:18 PM
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Hello,

What is the equivilent of 2016 Trek Fx 7.4 in new 2018 fx models?
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The $659 Trek FX 3 is the closest current bike to the 7.4 FX. Like the 7.4, the FX 3 has an Alpha Gold aluminum frame, a carbon fork, rim brakes, and a 3x9 drivetrain.

The next model up in the current Trek FX line is the FX 3 Disc, at $779. It's basically the same as the FX 3, but with hydraulic disc brakes instead of rim brakes. It's priced about the same as the 7.4 FX was, but you get discs instead of rim brakes.

The next model beyond that is the Trek FX Sport 4, at $1,149. It still has an aluminum frame (and carbon fork), but drops the mountain groupsets on the 3 and below and goes with a road Tiagra groupset, with a road double crank (2x10). This is getting pretty far away from what the 2016 7.4 FX was.
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Originally Posted by Cagatay
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What is the equivilent of 2016 Trek Fx 7.4 in new 2018 fx models?
FX 3 and FX LTD are the closest equivalents, albeit a couple of components are different.

Oh, and welcome to the forum. Prepare to get carved out and set on fire.
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Originally Posted by hokiefyd
This is getting pretty far away from what the 2016 7.4 FX was.
And let's not forget that up until about the 2016 model year, the FX line used to be much simpler: you got the popular alloy models and the pricier carbon models, with each available in men's and women's geometries, and that was it. Choices were simpler and more straightforward. Today, just look at how many versions there are of the FX 2!
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I believe you Congaree, the S 4 would be my pick today.
Shook, I looked for that gray 7.4 but at year end couldn't find one in my size so got a white 7.4 like Jarrettein's. Your's looks handsome with the fenders properly installed. I'm surprised a shop would have sent it out with the first version, the type of work that has resulted in me never returning to a bike shop once I get the bike out of their hands.
I wish I got my 7.4 in white! The bike was a bday gift from my then girlfriend (and now wife). The white 2011 fx 7.3 I had is now her bike. She rides with 28mm tires, I have 25mm’s on mine. Both are the XL or 22.5” size.

I love my bike now that I have it the way I want it with a few mods. Nowadays I usually have a bike trailer attached to it and take my 2 year old to local parks but I love how it’s setup. Still speedy but absolutely practical around town.

And yes, I was pretty annoyed I had to bring the bike back to have the fenders done properly. This shop has been around a while and I’m sure I’m not the only one that’s gotten fenders installed there. I will still go there bc when I got my fx’s there, they all cane with “free lifetime adjustments” so I still have to go to the shop and play nice
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Originally Posted by sjanzeir
Prepare to get carved out and set on fire.
Hey hey hey, listen. Just because we did that to that one guy doesn’t mean that we do that to everyone that sets foot here!
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Originally Posted by sh00k
“free lifetime adjustments” )


Wow, the local shop here gives one free adjustment, nothing off accessories, full rate to install them but no charge for the attitude. And they've been in business for over 100 years!
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If you can afford it, S4 is a lot better. Weight alone makes it up for the money.

And the Tiagra 4700, didn't realize how powerful it is till I did a 1900 ft climb and 50 miles last week. Coming from Verve 2, climbing hills is now a breeze

Originally Posted by Agent009
Congaree - congrats!

Did you test ride the FX 3 Disc before purchasing the S4? Was the S4 a lot better?

What do you think of the colour of the S4 frame? (I'm yet to see one in person yet).

cheers
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Originally Posted by grayslaker
If you can afford it, S4 is a lot better. Weight alone makes it up for the money.

And the Tiagra 4700, didn't realize how powerful it is till I did a 1900 ft climb and 50 miles last week. Coming from Verve 2, climbing hills is now a breeze
Thanks grayslaker.

Hoping to purchase this weekend if I get time....sounds like S4 is the go! I'm hoping I like the colour of the frame better in real life. In the pictures it looks a bit "meh" (maybe it's just me).
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Originally Posted by sh00k


Hey hey hey, listen. Just because we did that to that one guy doesn’t mean that we do that to everyone that sets foot here!
Oh, that guy? No, I was thinking about the other two. And the 14 before those.
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Oh, that guy? No, I was thinking about the other two. And the 14 before those.
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Originally Posted by sh00k


Oh, I was just trying to warn the new guy that things could get ugly around here sometimes.
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Out of interest, has anyone ridden a Giant Toughroad SLR 0 (or SLR 1).

Decent components, 50mm tires.

How does this compare to Trek FX Sport 4?
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I don't know Giant but 50mm tire compared to 32mm means the two bikes play different games. FastRoad at a glance looks and sounds closer to the S 4.
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i still think you’re lying

jk. Gorgeous bike and that looks like the perfect trail to cruise around on!
Thank you sh00k! BTW, I'm totally lying...this is how I make that sweet internet money
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Originally Posted by sail
I don't know Giant but 50mm tire compared to 32mm means the two bikes play different games. FastRoad at a glance looks and sounds closer to the S 4.
Cheers. Yeah I would say Toughroad is 80% off road and 20% on road (FX probably opposite). Sounds like FX would suit me better.

I intend to put 35mm tires on the FX S4 (G-One Speed's). Was just making sure that the Toughroad wasn't a better option as there is a new Giant opening down the road from me and they are having good discounts due to the opening of the store.
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Originally Posted by sail
I don't know Giant but 50mm tire compared to 32mm means the two bikes play different games. FastRoad at a glance looks and sounds closer to the S 4.
I noticed that when researching different brands...the FastRoad SLR appears to be Giant's version of the Trek S4 (or vice-versa). But it's obvious that both Trek and Giant have produced basically the same bike. Probably performs about the same for the same price.
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I am sure that tire will suit well. If you need options check out Bontrager H5 Hardcase ultimate as well. I replaced stock tire with this (32mm version) and couldn't be happier. Had this on my verve 2, liked it and hence used the same when I got S4

https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/e...-tire/p/09389/

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Cheers. Yeah I would say Toughroad is 80% off road and 20% on road (FX probably opposite). Sounds like FX would suit me better.

I intend to put 35mm tires on the FX S4 (G-One Speed's). Was just making sure that the Toughroad wasn't a better option as there is a new Giant opening down the road from me and they are having good discounts due to the opening of the store.

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Originally Posted by grayslaker
I am sure that tire will suit well. If you need options check out Bontrager H5 Hardcase ultimate as well. I replaced stock tire with this (32mm version) and couldn't be happier. Had this on my verve 2, liked it and hence used the same when I got S4

https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/e...-tire/p/09389/
Thanks, I am really looking to purchase a tubeless tire though....hence the G-One Speed's.
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I'm one of those people who can ride the hell out of a bike but is utterly incompetent on anything more mechanically sophisticated than changing a tire or adjusting a seat, so bear with me if I ask some stupid questions. Please note--I do not want advice on my shifting/riding style, which I know is highly unusual and one that I've adopted through a lifetime of trial and error. I have short stocky legs, and this works really well for me.
I have a 2017 FX 3, and I spend well over 90% of my riding time on the large chain ring. I go up most hills on the large chain ring. It is 48T. My smallest gear in the rear is 11T. I actually use the 48X11 quite a bit running level, not just downhill. I feel like I actually could make use of a higher gear ratio.
Everything on the drive train except the pedals is the original stock equipment on the bike.
So my questions are: 1) Can I replace the 48T ring on my particular bike without having to change a whole lot of the rest of the drive train? What else, if anything, would I have to change?
2) How much of a difference would I feel between 50 x 11 and 48 x 11?
Just saw this with no reply, Here is a gear calculator.https://www.sheldonbrown.com/gear-calc.html Difference between 48 and 50 not huge but noticeable. 117.8 inches compared to 122.7 inches, you could probably use the calculator to find this increment in your lower gears to feel the difference for some idea. But in looking at Acera if thats what you have I only see 48 and 44 large chain rings. If there is a 50 available the only other change would be possibly the need to add a few chain lengths and slight adjustment of front derailleur, but you might need to change the whole crank. Search ebay and shops for your crank. If the same group no problem and not real expensive but to change the crank to another 3x9 of a different group there could be bottom bracket compatibility.
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Originally Posted by Agent009
Cheers. Yeah I would say Toughroad is 80% off road and 20% on road (FX probably opposite). Sounds like FX would suit me better.

I intend to put 35mm tires on the FX S4 (G-One Speed's). Was just making sure that the Toughroad wasn't a better option as there is a new Giant opening down the road from me and they are having good discounts due to the opening of the store.
You're gonna be swapping tires anyway. Nothing keeps you from putting those 35mm G-Ones Speeds on the Toughroad. It's going to be a light and fast machine. If the price is right, why not? Don't necessarily rule it out because it was designed to be more of an offroad machine. Other changes you might want to do to it is to put a narrower handlebar (or cut the original) for improved aero, maybe do some changes to the drivetrain, so that would add to the total cost.
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Originally Posted by congaree
OK, just realized I am at 10, so I better get this out of the way before somebody thinks I 'm lying:

2019 FX S 4 at the end of the trail in Travellers Rest.
Congaree (and other FX S 4 and up owners) just wondering if you've taken your fx s 4 on any hills? I ask because your bike has 2 chain rings and I wanted to know if those 2 are enough for some steep climbs... my 7.4 fx came with a triple that i absolutely love - gears that perfect for climbing and for good speed on the flats.

I've mulled over converting my drivetrain to shimano 105 like the higher end fx model but i think i would miss the 3rd chainring...


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Originally Posted by sh00k
Congaree (and other FX S 4 and up owners) just wondering if you've taken your fx s 4 on any hills? I ask because your bike has 2 chain rings and I wanted to know if those 2 are enough for some steep climbs... my 7.4 fx came with a triple that i absolutely love - gears that perfect for climbing and for good speed on the flats.

I've mulled over converting my drivetrain to shimano 105 like the higher end fx model but i think i would miss the 3rd chainring...

That's a nice drivetrain...from what I've read it's a step up from the Tiagra. To answer your question, I haven't hit any serious hills with the new bike yet. The stretch of my regular trail that I ride is max 4% grade and with a decent stretch (about 4 or 5 miles) of 2%, but nothing that would require a smaller chain ring than what I have. I have another trail close-by that is much hillier than my regular that I'm hoping to hit before too long (some 9% grades on it), but haven't had the chance yet. Maybe grayslaker can chime in, since, looking back several comments before this one, it looks like he has hit some steeper stuff and found the bike could handle it with flying colors.
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Just saw this with no reply, Here is a gear calculator.https://www.sheldonbrown.com/gear-calc.html Difference between 48 and 50 not huge but noticeable. 117.8 inches compared to 122.7 inches, you could probably use the calculator to find this increment in your lower gears to feel the difference for some idea. But in looking at Acera if thats what you have I only see 48 and 44 large chain rings. If there is a 50 available the only other change would be possibly the need to add a few chain lengths and slight adjustment of front derailleur, but you might need to change the whole crank. Search ebay and shops for your crank. If the same group no problem and not real expensive but to change the crank to another 3x9 of a different group there could be bottom bracket compatibility.

Yeah, thanks for the informative response! I ended up buying a N+1 road bike with a 53x12 combination, which I have also been contemplating. I haven't ridden drop bars in 20+ years, but I test rode it and think I can adapt. So for now, I'm going to put off frankenbiking the FX drive train.

Looks like Trek is going to max out at 50T for all of their lines gong forward, btw.
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oh how things have changed... I used to live in the city and rode this fx (and my other ones: 7.2, 7.3, 7.7) around town... now i'm in the burbs and pulling a kiddy trailer with my 7.4

the roads by me are 98% perfect so i am using nice and light 25mm tires on my fx, a huge difference from the 32mm that it came with. without the trailer, i can ride the bike 30 miles before getting tired thanks to the tires

I've even been debating attaching the kiddy trailer to my $3,800 16-pound carbon Trek Emonda SL6... Just because I like the contrast/irony of it haha


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