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Old 04-29-15, 10:33 PM
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So What's The Deal With Kickstands?

My best Seinfeld voice.. "So What's The Deal With Kickstands?"

I am 45 year old male and this is my first bike purchase since I was 19 so I was away from "The Bike Game" for awhile. Back in the 80's kickstands were very convenient if you were lucky enough to have a bike with one.

Now, I notice that a lot of riders do not install one. Is it because they are not "cool" to have one or is it the ole saving weight = hardcore rider = faster rider thingy?

I was at a Specialized dealer the other day and was looking at a done up Crosstrail with full fenders, bike rack, saddle bags and kickstand. I was playing with the kickstand and noticed how smooth, sturdy, light and solid it was compared to the last time I flicked up a kickstand back in 1986.haha

They were tanks back then that felt like you were kicking up a motorcycle kickstand.lol

Yes the Crosstrail was super silent, light and effortless and it was positioned at the rear of the bike so it was out of the way with your pedal stroke. Back in the 80's some of my friends would take off their kickstands because they would always come loose (poor fastenings back then) and get in the way of your pedal stroke.

I know you can always lean your bike up against something but I would be concerned with the bike dropping and scratching up my paint or other damage.

Also back in the 80's we would lay our bmx bikes upside down if we had no kickstand.lol

Will I be shunned by the "cool" bike crowd if I was to install a kickstand on my Coda Elite? Will they pelt rocks at me? LOL

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Old 04-29-15, 10:57 PM
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You will be shunned, and you will be called Fred!!!

Yes, they are "uncool" (according to "serious" cyclists) along with dork disks, reflectors, and hybrids. They add a few hundred grams, and some consider them unsafe in case they open while riding (especially when doing MTB), or come loose and end up in your spokes or pedals. Not to mention that they can scratch up your paint where installed.

Is the loss of dignity worth it? Personally I have one! I often bike casually, and stop here and there, and don't want to throw my nice bike on the ground or find something to lean it on. And with a bunch of bikes in the garage, much easier to just stand them up instead of bike racks or wall hangers. And actually nobody ever stopped me to point out and laugh at my stand

And if you are a strong biker, it can doubly humiliate a "serious roady" when you pass him with your hybrid with a kickstand!
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One thing I will point out is that the heavier a bicycle is, the better a kickstand works- it's the bike's weight that keeps it from blowing over in wind. So as they make lighter bikes, kick stands become less effective.

Your bike can drop if you lean it against something, but it's probably more likely to drop if it's on a kickstand.
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Originally Posted by steve_cay View Post
You will be shunned, and you will be called Fred!!!

Yes, they are "uncool" (according to "serious" cyclists) along with dork disks, reflectors, and hybrids.

Is the loss of dignity worth it?

And if you are a strong biker, it can doubly humiliate a "serious roady" when you pass him with your hybrid with a kickstand!
LOL, hilarious stuff man. Thanks for the laugh.

"And if you are a strong biker, it can doubly humiliate a "serious roady" when you pass him with your hybrid with a kickstand"
This will now be my new quest in life.lol
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Old 04-29-15, 11:25 PM
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Many will shun you for just asking the question . Yes, kickstands are clearly uncool, much like reflectors and helmet visors and other merely practical things . Yet, they do go well/better with fenders and racks and other such accessorizing -again. I only have a kickstand on my 50-pound electric, which is by definition my least-cool bike --even if it is the coolest Ebike out there. But, yes, kickstands are every bit as functional and practical as they always were. Leaning a bike, other than against a tire, can easily scratch it, and many bike-parking/locking areas can be especially risky. On the other hand, even if you don't mind the look of a kickstand, and risk dismissing the not-cool judgments, bikes on stands can still be knocked down, and bike-parking options often don't allow for leaning a bike on it's stand, rendering them less or impractical. That's my three cents at a late hour.
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Old 04-30-15, 04:53 AM
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I just don't need one.
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Old 04-30-15, 05:57 AM
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True story - From a long time ago.....

I actually had a road bike back then, with a kickstand.

I once came out of the Tastee Freeze, very close to our local MUP.

What do I find**********? But another road bike leaned up against my bike, because the bike rack was full!!!!

I laid the bike down gently, and went on my way.............

In hindsight, I should have pitched it out in the road!
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Old 04-30-15, 06:47 AM
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I have two with and two without. I like my stands. One might lose it's side stand for a center stand as it's my touring tool.

Oh and thanks for reminding me. I need a dork disk for my fatbike.
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Old 04-30-15, 06:59 AM
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Last two bikes I bought I added a stand. I find the convenient as I stop for breaks occasionally and don't want to lay my bike down or try and lean it against something. it does add weight and a lot of riders think they looks dorky. Thats too bad, I want one and use it.

I do find however that with a very light bike it is not as reliable. The old steel Schwinn I used to own was stable as a rock. The aluminum Giant Sedona I bought next was a little tippy, still not too bad but would fall over if you bumped it too hard. The Giant Roam 2 I have now is VERY tippy. The larger 700c wheels, the lighter weight frame and so much on the top make it top heavy. I've stood there and watched it after firmly planting it on the stand and saw the front wheel turn all by itself after 20 seconds or so and the thing start to tip. So on taller, lighter bikes they become less reliable and the bike may get damaged in a fall. I park the Roam and hang it on my cheapo bike repair stand and use a park tools handle bar holder on the bar to keep it straight (tight quarters).
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Old 04-30-15, 07:24 AM
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My friend has a kickstand on her Trek fx 7.2. I don't know if the kickstand is too long or if there is something about the bike, but it falls over at least half the time she uses the kick stand. (I think the kickstand is too long and doesn't allow the bike to lean enough). So if you get a kickstand, make sure it keeps your bike stable.
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Old 04-30-15, 07:34 AM
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Kickstands are great if you like your bike falling over. They only work on perfectly level ground if they're cut to the right length. And if it's a lighter bike, it may even blow over if on the kickstand.


Either lean your bike against something solid or lay it on the ground. A bike on the ground is like a drunk on the ground. It can't fall over and get hurt.
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Old 04-30-15, 07:54 AM
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Kickstands depend on the bike. On a lightweight racing bike why would anyone add a kickstand? On a utility bike or a touring bike, a center kickstand is a nice piece of equipment to have. On a recreational bike it seems like a good idea if you add a kickstand so you don't have to lean it against something. The only folks who would shun you anyway are ultra fit racers and if you are new to biking they are going to shun you whether you have a kickstand or not so don't worry about it.
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Old 04-30-15, 08:48 AM
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I like the look of a bike standing on it's own.

The built in kickstands on the Electroforged Schwinns of old were one of the best.





If you don't want the bike to tip over (or be damaged some other way) you just need to use good judgment and care when parking it... with or without a kickstand.
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If you always ride alone and don't care about fitting in use one. No matter what people say the other cyclists notice and will talk about you when you aren't around. However, if you can ride and climb faster than everyone else, you can say and do whatever you want.
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Length of the leg is important. Mine was so upright it would sometimes fall over on the non stand side. I cut off one whole mark. Too much. When I have my panniers on, it wants to fall to the stand side. SO, I load heavy to the non stand side. Viola !
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SO, I load heavy to the non stand side. Viola !
You carry around an oversized violin just so your bike will balance?
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The kickstand is my favorite accessory on my bike.......it is handy, handy, handy and weighs less than a water bottle. Those who don't have one are uncool bordering on stupid. Kickstand users unit and ward off the racing mentality induced by manufacturers who have riders bedecked as peddling billboards. Talk about being brainwashed.
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You carry around an oversized violin just so your bike will balance?
No. I'm incompetent enough to not find and use the correct grammar marking.


Are you happy now?
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If you ever want to stop to go into a shop during a ride, kickstands are great.
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Originally Posted by steve_cay View Post
You will be shunned, and you will be called Fred!!!

Yes, they are "uncool" (according to "serious" cyclists) along with dork disks, reflectors, and hybrids. They add a few hundred grams, and some consider them unsafe in case they open while riding (especially when doing MTB), or come loose and end up in your spokes or pedals. Not to mention that they can scratch up your paint where installed.

Is the loss of dignity worth it? Personally I have one! I often bike casually, and stop here and there, and don't want to throw my nice bike on the ground or find something to lean it on. And with a bunch of bikes in the garage, much easier to just stand them up instead of bike racks or wall hangers. And actually nobody ever stopped me to point out and laugh at my stand

And if you are a strong biker, it can doubly humiliate a "serious roady" when you pass him with your hybrid with a kickstand!
News Flash:

No "serious cyclist" or "serious roady (sic)" would give a rat's behind whether you or anyone has and uses a kickstand, or whether "you pass him with your hybrid with a kickstand". The question would not arise in such cyclists' minds because they wouldn't even notice you save possibly to extend a friendly (if sometimes subtle) greeting.

I think you may have meant to refer to "poseurs" and/or Cat 6 Racers.
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Originally Posted by Daddy Wags View Post
The kickstand is my favorite accessory on my bike.......it is handy, handy, handy and weighs less than a water bottle. Those who don't have one are uncool bordering on stupid. Kickstand users unit and ward off the racing mentality induced by manufacturers who have riders bedecked as peddling billboards. Talk about being brainwashed.
Ah, I see. So sporting a kickstand is not only practical but helps one to 'make a statement'. Fascinating.
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I purchased an Esge Pletscher kickstand based on what I read in the forum. However, I am still thinking whether or not I should mount the kickstand on the FX.
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What is uncool is riding a bike that is set up in a way other than the way you want it. Use a kickstand if you wish, and find them useful .
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Use a kickstand if you wish, and find them useful .
I definitely will. Phankx
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