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pat0115 10-04-15 07:00 PM

Perhaps $100 off? I read many posts that said discounts were normal so I asked the question

yashinon 10-04-15 07:02 PM

I would not pay MSRP! If the LBS is a dealer for a certain brand, let them know you are shopping around!

805Rider 10-05-15 06:56 PM

I bought a 2016 Sirrus Sport Disc from my LBS back in August and it was ~$100 off MSRP. They didn't have the size I wanted so they ordered it for me so I could try it out. The other 2 LBS selling the same Specialized bike wouldn't budge off of the MSRP.

pat0115 10-06-15 04:56 AM

I finally purchased a Cannondale Quick Speed 1 and my LBS gave it to me for $950, that's $250 off MSRP. I think that's an excellent price for that bike! 😊

chong67 10-06-15 07:27 AM

I bought my wife a middle value Giant bike this past weekend and the LBS sign at front door say 10% off on 2015 model. But there are no 2015 model so there are no discount. In fact, it cost $25 more. When I ask the owner, he said that extra make up is for computer sizing, etc. He said manuf has strip alot of their profit margin. Is this true?

AU Tiger 10-06-15 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by chong67 (Post 18220934)
I bought my wife a middle value Giant bike this past weekend and the LBS sign at front door say 10% off on 2015 model. But there are no 2015 model so there are no discount. In fact, it cost $25 more. When I ask the owner, he said that extra make up is for computer sizing, etc. He said manuf has strip alot of their profit margin. Is this true?

Not sure if this is true, but when I was shopping for a bike last year I was told that the price on the Giant website is not an MSRP but rather a rough average of actual selling prices. Not all brands -- just Giant.

DowneasTTer 10-06-15 01:32 PM

OK, I can play here. I just purchased two 2016 Giant Fastroad CoMax 1's from my local Giant dealer. It's the third set of bikes I have purchased from him in the past 4 years. All with MSRP of over $1,000.00. Two years ago on my Escape RX Composites the MRSP was $1550.00 each. I was given 17.74% off each for a out the door price of $1275.00 or $275 off each bike. This time the CoMax's MSRP is $1800.00. But because he couldn't order enough for free shipping and I wasn't willing to wait, I had to pay the shipping. So the discount was 12.5% or $225 each. I might not be the typical buyer but my LBS is not your typical seller either.

Walter Denton 10-06-15 05:32 PM

I don't have a lot of in depth knowledge about bike pricing but I can offer anecdotal evidence of my own experience. I live midway between two LBS that are about 30 miles apart and both sell Giant. I was shopping for and purchased a 2016 Roam 1 a few weeks ago. One shop would not discount the price at all off the $840 msrp. The other shop offered $70 off immediately without my asking. Both shops offered similar service deals. A Trek dealer that I visited also offered a discount without my asking although I don't recall the percentage.

Wanderer 10-06-15 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AU Tiger (Post 18220989)
Not sure if this is true, but when I was shopping for a bike last year I was told that the price on the Giant website is not an MSRP but rather a rough average of actual selling prices. Not all brands -- just Giant.

I would run away from that Giant dealer. He is not being truthful. He is full of BS.

AU Tiger 10-06-15 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Wanderer (Post 18222630)
I would run away from that Giant dealer. He is not being truthful. He is full of BS.

That wasn't from a dealer... it was from this forum. Thus the disclaimer. :)

badger1 10-06-15 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Wanderer (Post 18222630)
I would run away from that Giant dealer. He is not being truthful. He is full of BS.

Strong words. Do you have evidence that this Giant dealer was "not being truthful"? That is a serious accusation to level at anyone, even in the LaLa Land of Bike Forums.

"That Giant dealer"'s alleged statement, whoever he/she may be, is certainly consistent with Giant USA's FAQ (emphasis added):

"12. What are the retail prices of Giant bicycles?
The bikes listed on our website show the U.S. average retail price. Prices may be lower or higher by region due to transit and other handling costs. Check exact prices with your local dealers. To find your nearest Giant retailer, go to Giant Bicycles | Official site, choose USA, and then click on Store Finder on the home page. You will be taken to our Dealer Locator where you can simply type in your city or zip code and the locator will find your nearest Giant retailer.
Back to the top"

practical 10-07-15 08:39 AM

Do not worry about whether you got a "deal" or not. Simply ask if you like and want the bike enough to pay the price being asked. If so, it's a "fair" price. If not, then don't buy it regardless of whether or not you're getting a "deal." The "fair" price in any transaction is determined by both a willing seller and and a willing buyer.

AU Tiger 10-07-15 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by practical (Post 18223836)
Do not worry about whether you got a "deal" or not. Simply ask if you like and want the bike enough to pay the price being asked. If so, it's a "fair" price. If not, then don't buy it regardless of whether or not you're getting a "deal." The "fair" price in any transaction is determined by both a willing seller and and a willing buyer.

Excellent advice!

Wanderer 10-07-15 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by badger1 (Post 18222906)
Strong words. Do you have evidence that this Giant dealer was "not being truthful"? That is a serious accusation to level at anyone, even in the LaLa Land of Bike Forums.

"That Giant dealer"'s alleged statement, whoever he/she may be, is certainly consistent with Giant USA's FAQ (emphasis added):

"12. What are the retail prices of Giant bicycles?
The bikes listed on our website show the U.S. average retail price. Prices may be lower or higher by region due to transit and other handling costs. Check exact prices with your local dealers. To find your nearest Giant retailer, go to Giant Bicycles | Official site, choose USA, and then click on Store Finder on the home page. You will be taken to our Dealer Locator where you can simply type in your city or zip code and the locator will find your nearest Giant retailer.
Back to the top"

I still look at this as MSRP, with a disclaimer for shipping cost. At the very least, the dealer was trying to be misleading to the customer. Perhaps to try to gouge them for more?

I still stand by my statement - being less than truthful, and to be avoided. Perhaps he was a used car salesman in another life. 70 years of experience, leads me in this direction. MHO

AU Tiger 10-07-15 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Wanderer (Post 18225382)
I still look at this as MSRP, with a disclaimer for shipping cost. At the very least, the dealer was trying to be misleading to the customer. Perhaps to try to gouge them for more?

I still stand by my statement - being less than truthful, and to be avoided. Perhaps he was a used car salesman in another life. 70 years of experience, leads me in this direction. MHO

Or perhaps it wasn't a dealer at all. As I already stated a few posts back, my information came from this forum... probably someone citing the same information from Giant's website as badger1 did.

Strange that I feel the need to defend the honor of someone who doesn't even exist!

prj71 10-08-15 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by RickGr4 (Post 18213415)
Not sure I agree here. I suspect the bike you bought was in very low demand and readily available... Also, more expensive bikes carry greater markup.

Sorry but I don't think your comment is apples to apples.

Trek Fuel EX is not a low demand bike.

RickGr4 10-08-15 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by prj71 (Post 18226478)
Trek Fuel EX is not a low demand bike.


Possibly but I suspect it is readily available.

LC Dollar 10-08-15 07:02 PM

I bought a Cannondale Quick 4 , for $650 three weeks ago ................ and I'm gettin ready to buy my Wife a Trek Lexa womens road bike for $700.

Its the time of year.

But I'm regretting the Quick 4, wish I'd bought a road bike.

prj71 10-09-15 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by RickGr4 (Post 18228548)
Possibly but I suspect it is readily available.

Guess it depends on what your definition is of "readily available".

The bike would have to be ordered and then I would have to wait a week or so for it to come in.

chong67 10-09-15 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LC Dollar (Post 18228571)
I bought a Cannondale Quick 4 , for $650 three weeks ago ................ and I'm gettin ready to buy my Wife a Trek Lexa womens road bike for $700.

Its the time of year.

But I'm regretting the Quick 4, wish I'd bought a road bike.

Why dont you like the flat bar now?

dynaryder 10-10-15 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by canklecat (Post 18216804)
Manufacturer incentives to sales staff (usually hidden from consumers). Some vehicle models are bundled with spiffs or minis for sales staff - either an extra bonus over the usual commission, or a guaranteed minimum commission to promote quick, no-hassle sales.

Never heard of this in the bike world. C'dale gave us baseball caps and work shirts,KHS gave us t-shirts. But those were so we'd wear them and promote the brand. Also doubt many bike shops have their sales staff work on commission.

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Originally Posted by canklecat (Post 18216804)
How much effort they put into make-ready, setups or whatever goes into the process between pulling the bike out of the carton and putting it onto the floor. Remember that sad but darkly humorous "Yeah, but that True Coat" scene in Fargo? If you know the car biz, that's a classic profit packer ploy. But unlike cars, most bikes don't arrive anywhere set up, adjusted and ready to ride. And the end result depends on the skills of the mechanic.

I just had a newish bike come into my free clinic today. Had not been set up properly. B screw wasn't set,neither V brake was balanced. Doubt the BB or headset had been checked. At my shop,we go pretty much above and beyond. All non-press fit BB's get pulled/greased/taped. Headsets all get greased. We even grease the stem and faceplate bolts. We make certain that everything on the bike is correct and that the buyer won't have future issues. And you'd be amazed at how many brand new bikes come out of the box with issues.


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