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Old 11-02-16, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by pghchico View Post
well when i'm on the road, i want the seat up high, as you said, i want my leg almost straight when the peddle is at the bottom. BUT when i'm out on the trails i put the seat down a few inches. then put my peddles horizontal and use my legs, knees and hips as the suspension. shift my weight back over the backwheel to bounce over obsticales. So being able to adjust the seat is very important.
A few inches lower seat post would make a big difference to pedaling efficiency, do you pretty much only ride downhill trails?

Colonel Sanders. funny you mentioned the KONA big rove, that is the other bike i'm looking at, but it has a Al fork not carbon, not sure how much that would effect weight.
It is a damn shame that Kona stopped selling the Cro-moly version of the Big Rove and now only the aluminium version is available for 2017.

I doubt the weight difference in the fork of the Big Rove AL and the Toughroad would be more than 200grams.
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Originally Posted by pghchico View Post
Colonel Sanders, you say you are running 50mm tires, are those full blown mountain bike knobbies ? do you think full on 29x2 mtb knobbies would fit on the bike ? Most of the hybrid bikes i been looking at all have 700x35 tires , and i wonder if any of them can accomodate 29x2 mtb tires. That would certainly give me more options for bikes.
I am running 50mm Schwalbe Marathon Mondials, and there is heaps of room left, you would have no issue whatsoever with 29x2 mtb knobbies fitting.

I'm pretty sure I could fit a 60mm tyre on the front of the Toughroad and a 70mm+ tyre on the rear.
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Originally Posted by ColonelSanders View Post
A few inches lower seat post would make a big difference to pedaling efficiency, do you pretty much only ride downhill trails?



It is a damn shame that Kona stopped selling the Cro-moly version of the Big Rove and now only the aluminium version is available for 2017.

I doubt the weight difference in the fork of the Big Rove AL and the Toughroad would be more than 200grams.
Not much love here for Surly :-).

Look into framesets and whole bikes - steel only, and you can fit wide tyres easily. You can build form frameset as single speed, 1x10, 3 x10 without much effort. With a variety of frames available you probably can find soemthing matching your riding style.

After trying a few bikes, and going back and forth between Ogre and tTroll we ended up with a pair of 2016 Trolls - small for Her, medium for me. Swapped seats - TPTB got my old Stella Italia scavenged from old Bianchi, I put a Brooks on mine and Crank Brothers double stroke pedals (cleats and flat combo). Now we can explore local side roads at ease.
We are not set for trails, but anything from paved, unpaved, double track/ jeep trail is ours.
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Originally Posted by pghchico View Post
well when i'm on the road, i want the seat up high, as you said, i want my leg almost straight when the peddle is at the bottom. BUT when i'm out on the trails i put the seat down a few inches. then put my peddles horizontal and use my legs, knees and hips as the suspension. shift my weight back over the backwheel to bounce over obsticales. So being able to adjust the seat is very important.
Very VERY important. I'd scratch the toughroad off my list then if it was me.
It sounds like you have some real fun getting your exercise, the best of both worlds. Would love to hear about the terrain you ride, hilly single tracks? Smooth country roads or perhaps Suburban roads? What sort of kilometers do you clock up? I ride strictly on the road, generally on a sunday when it's quiet and now do about 22km though that will increase to a max of 30 or 40. I don't want to do anymore than that, that's all I need to maintain good fitness.
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Originally Posted by ColonelSanders View Post



It is a damn shame that Kona stopped selling the Cro-moly version of the Big Rove and now only the aluminium version is available for 2017.
It wouldn't bother me, at all
If I had seen the two side by side I think I would have bought the Kona over the toughroad-1 I guess I'll just have to wear this one out in a hurry.

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Originally Posted by coominya View Post
It wouldn't bother me, at all
If I had seen the two side by side I think I would have bought the Kona over the toughroad-1 I guess I'll just have to wear this one out in a hurry.


The AL version of the Big Rove also comes with an aluminium fork, whereas the Cro-Moly version came with a Cro-Moly fork.


Perhaps when running 50mm tyres the fork material wouldn't be so important.


Also in Australia, besides the limited number of Kona dealers, I never saw them discounted to the extent the Toughroad's were, so the Cro-Moly version was always selling for more than the RRP of the Toughroad SLR 1.


I just did a search on Bike Exchange in Australia and did find the following from a bike store in Victoria.


https://www.bikeexchange.com.au/a/fl...e-st/102754170


$AUD$1498
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Originally Posted by ColonelSanders View Post
The AL version of the Big Rove also comes with an aluminium fork, whereas the Cro-Moly version came with a Cro-Moly fork.


Perhaps when running 50mm tyres the fork material wouldn't be so important.
Hmmm. You'd guess they'd have ally forks figured out by now?

Here in an eBay Giant MB auction. I'm not after one but I'll watch it play out just for interest sake.
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Originally Posted by coominya View Post
Very VERY important. I'd scratch the toughroad off my list then if it was me.
I think the SLR2 is going to be off my list, just because of the seat post issue. which is ashame because it had everything else i was looking for. The KONA big rove Al, though is definitely on my list, and i'm encouraged because there is a local dealer.

I'm sure there are some other bikes out there that will fit the bill, most hybrids seem to run 35mm tires, i just need to see which of them have the frame clearence to accept a 50-52mm mtb tire. I already figured into the budget that i would have 2 sets of tires. I guess i just need to get off the internet and make the rounds to the LBS and check out the bikes in person to see which ones would work with the bigger tires.
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Originally Posted by pghchico View Post
I think the SLR2 is going to be off my list, just because of the seat post issue. which is ashame because it had everything else i was looking for. The KONA big rove Al, though is definitely on my list, and i'm encouraged because there is a local dealer.

I guess i just need to get off the internet and make the rounds to the LBS
Make the rounds yes, but certainly look at ALL possible candidates. There is a myriad of bikes out there, it makes choosing the "right one" very difficult now. Best of luck.
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You need a bigger vehicle or an exterior bike rack.
It is an exterior rack, hence the rear view issue. I did have a roof rack years ago,
but have no interest in that again.
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Originally Posted by pghchico View Post
BUT when i'm out on the trails i put the seat down a few inches.
That's bad form and bad on your knees.
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That's bad form and bad on your knees.
I wouldn't think so, not the way he describes the riding style which is out of the saddle a lot. Look at BMX seat heights.

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Well the Toughroad isn't a BMX bike nor does it have BMX geometry and I doubt he will be doing any BMX tricks with it.

The type of riding he is describing is mountain biking. I'm 80% mountain biker and 20% hybrid bike/gravel biker. As someone who mountain bikes a lot, there is never a need to lower the seat. Nor does anyone I ride with lower the seat. If you want your legs to act as suspension all you need to do is stand up and bend the legs a little. If he was doing some serious downhill riding then a dropper post would be in order. But it sounds like just some light off road use.
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What is the widest MB tire you can mount on the Toughroad?
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What is the widest MB tire you can mount on the Toughroad?
There's a huge amount of clearance. The fork has 2.90in of clearance at the tire, and similar vertically. Amazingly, the rear actually had more horizontally, maybe slightly less vertically.

You should be able to fit any 2.35in tires and possibly still have room for fenders.
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Originally Posted by ColonelSanders View Post
That is fair enough too.

When I bought my SLR 2, the store had discounted it by 30%, so it became a real no brainer, but prior to that I was struggling to know which way to go between them.

Because I am a heavy bastard, I actually didn't want the Carbon Seatpost and whilst I do place a value on racks, I wanted the RackTime racks, as they have a great interface built into the rack that easily allows for quick release baskets and trunk bags, whereas the Giant racks are just generic, so no quick release for you.

I am also someone who really likes having a Gear Display Indicator on my gears so that I can easily see what gear I am in, and the Sram shifters on the SLR 1, lack this. Now this doesn't matter to everyone, but it does to me, so when I get around to putting XT shifters on my SLR 2, they will have a Gear Display Indicator on them.

Hi ColonelSanders

I am in AU as well, where did u purchase your SLR2? Coz 30% off is real good bargain.
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Hi ColonelSanders

I am in AU as well, where did u purchase your SLR2? Coz 30% off is real good bargain.
I bought it from this store, however they don't appear to have that kind of discount going right now.

Depending on which city you live in, I would use bikeexchange.com.au to search for dealers selling Giant bikes.

One in Ashgrove Brisbane at the moment has the Toughroad SLR 2 down from $AUD1,300 to $AUD1,000.
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Hi ColonelSanders

I am in AU as well, where did u purchase your SLR2? Coz 30% off is real good bargain.
They seem to have specials just before the new models come out.
This site is a clearing house for aussie specials it seems. I found my TR-1 at a $500 discount off it.

https://www.bikeexchange.com.au/a/hy...lr-1/102731704
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They seem to have specials just before the new models come out.
This site is a clearing house for aussie specials it seems. I found my TR-1 at a $500 discount off it.

https://www.bikeexchange.com.au/a/hy...lr-1/102731704
Just called the Giant sydney today, sales staff said no discount for 2017 version.

Do u recon it is worth purchase 2017 version over 2016 version?
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Originally Posted by ColonelSanders View Post
I bought it from this store, however they don't appear to have that kind of discount going right now.

Depending on which city you live in, I would use bikeexchange.com.au to search for dealers selling Giant bikes.

One in Ashgrove Brisbane at the moment has the Toughroad SLR 2 down from $AUD1,300 to $AUD1,000.

Thanks buddy, still not decided to go with 2016 version or 17 version or slr1
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Thanks buddy, still not decided to go with 2016 version or 17 version or slr1
The SLR-1 is what I bought, it has definite advantages over the 2 and a few drawbacks in my opinion. I found the plastic (CF) seat tube far too flexible when fully extended to suit my height, not an issue probably if you get the large say and are under 6' or under 90kg. I had to buy the aluminium one as a replacement. The racks came straight off, useless and unsightly. The gearing is nice but I must admit the shifters are noisy, big loud clicks but a very positive shift. All considered I would still buy the -1 if I had the time over.

As for the 17/16 I don't believe there is anything of note separating them besides a different brand set of brakes. And the colour trim of course, baby blue or red

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Just called the Giant sydney today, sales staff said no discount for 2017 version.

Do u recon it is worth purchase 2017 version over 2016 version?

Thankfully there is little difference between the 2017 & 2016 versions, so buy which ever colour you like best and which ever one is priced the best.
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Thankfully there is little difference between the 2017 & 2016 versions, so buy which ever colour you like best and which ever one is priced the best.
Got my Giant Toughroad SLR 1 2017 model from sydney shop today, get bargain for $450 off RRP, very impressed for this bike.

Ride after half hour hear some noise when everytime I turn handlebar, will bring it to back to shop to check it out
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Originally Posted by sunnyfield View Post
Got my Giant Toughroad SLR 1 2017 model from sydney shop today, get bargain for $450 off RRP, very impressed for this bike.

Ride after half hour hear some noise when everytime I turn handlebar, will bring it to back to shop to check it out

Colonel Sanders is the go to on these bikes, however, I believe these bikes were notorious for squeaking sounds coming from the headset and fork when turning the handlebars. You can take it back or just take the front end apart and lube everything up real good.
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If it's evident when turning it may be the disk pads brushing the rotor or even the caliper body rubbing it. I have that after I refitted the front caliper , I'll get around to adjusting it, one day soon.
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