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Old 07-12-17, 10:22 PM
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Has anyone shortened the handlebars? At 690 mm they seem very wide and I feel I hit things with them. Now I got ergo grips, that place my hands on the outer edge even more than the original round grips. My shoulder width is around 48 cm (19") adn that is also the distance between my hands on the bar. Per guidelines that is what it should be, just feels so wide. (if i interpret correctly the shoulder width should be between the hands, so the bar should be shoulder plus 2x handwidth)

Obviously if I cut them, there is no way back. So I wonder if someone else feels the same way? The Toughroad handlebars seem to be on the wide side compared to other hybrids.Maybe because it is built for tougher roads for more control?

My new ergo grips GP5 also are relatively large, which now makes it look even larger.

You should be able to push your hand grips in by whatever distance you want and then it will effectively be like riding a bike with narrower handlebars.


That way you can work out what is the ideal size for you before either cutting your existing handlebars or getting a new one.
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You should be able to push your hand grips in by whatever distance you want and then it will effectively be like riding a bike with narrower handlebars.


That way you can work out what is the ideal size for you before either cutting your existing handlebars or getting a new one.
Good point and I tried that. However, my grips with the longer bar end can't move closer inside. The bar end is butting against the end of the handlebar and can't slide really on. And without the bar end the grips themselves can't be fastened. I could try the original grips to be closer, but want to get the real feeling withe ht grips and bar ends i actually will be using.

since these bar ends don't slide fully on, they "widen" the apparent handlebar by another 6 mm on each side. Almost looks my bike is a swide as it is long :-)

I'm just wondering of others also feel the handlebars are extremely wide. i realize everyone is different, but these seem very wide.
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Originally Posted by HerrKaLeun View Post
Good point and I tried that. However, my grips with the longer bar end can't move closer inside. The bar end is butting against the end of the handlebar and can't slide really on. And without the bar end the grips themselves can't be fastened. I could try the original grips to be closer, but want to get the real feeling withe ht grips and bar ends i actually will be using.

since these bar ends don't slide fully on, they "widen" the apparent handlebar by another 6 mm on each side. Almost looks my bike is a swide as it is long :-)

I'm just wondering of others also feel the handlebars are extremely wide. i realize everyone is different, but these seem very wide.
Okay, I don't have your Ergon grips, I have the GP1's and when I looked at yours, I thought you might be able to push them in, it is a bummer that you can't.


700mm wide handlebars on the Toughroad is very wide and the stock grips are terrible, so clearly something needs to be done there.


I found I got use to the 700mm after a couple of rides, even though it was very awkward at first, but I currently have my handgrips in by 10mm on each side, so now I am effectively riding a 680mm wide handlebar.


I also have a 660mm handlebar to try out, or I could slide my grips and gear shifters in by another 10mm each side, and I have a feeling this will be the Goldilocks size for me, but as you said, everyone is different and I think @coominya settled on either a 600mm or 580mm wide handlebar.
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Old 07-13-17, 11:05 PM
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I imagine it's very difficult to move the controls and grips in on a riser bar because of the curve? I replaced my bar with a flat one and then moved the grips inboard.
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I imagine it's very difficult to move the controls and grips in on a riser bar because of the curve? I replaced my bar with a flat one and then moved the grips inboard.
The straight part of the handlebar where the shifter and grips are attached has at least 8 cm left before it bends. So one could move controls and grips in by 8 cm on each side...
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Originally Posted by HerrKaLeun View Post
The straight part of the handlebar where the shifter and grips are attached has at least 8 cm left before it bends. So one could move controls and grips in by 8 cm on each side...
Yes I re-checked, there is enough room.
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Giant toughroad road tires

Hi folks

New member with a 2016 toughroad slr2. Since all my riding is on pavement I found a great tire...a 29" Schwalbe Marathon Supreme. Great ride, handling and tire life...expensive but well worth it.

Since I cannot post a URL, yet....you will need to google it for specs, etc.
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Old 07-26-17, 08:53 PM
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My SLR 2 toughroad with 35mm tyres - continentals.

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Sharp bike. Always liked the color scheme of the SLR2.
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My Toughroad 0 came stock with the Giant Sycamore S 29x2.0 tyres. So far, they've proved to be pretty decent both on tarmac and on gravel/towpath but they hum quite a bit on the road. I like the cushy feel of the wide tyre but wanted something with a lower profile tread for a bit more road bias, but not slick. I opted for a pair of Schwalbe Thunder Burt 29x2.1 at a great price from Ribble. They arrived today.

Weight wise, the Sycamores came in at 714g each whilst the Thunder Burts weigh 531g - a saving of 183g per tyre. A friend calculated this as an approximate saving of 1100g in rotational weight for the two tyres. Relevant, but not sure how much...! Was pleased to see Giant fitted lightweight inner tubes as standard too, they weighed 145g each, so carried these over.

Had a quick 3 mile spin along the road and through the park and there is a noticeable improvement in responsiveness, comfort and noise. Much quieter. Weighing 102kg (224lbs or in old skool 16 stone) I run the back tyre at 50psi and the front at 45psi - letting a bit more out if the going gets rough. Running the Burts at the same pressures they immediately felt more comfortable - not sure if it's because they're a folding tyre and the Sycamore was a wire bead. Dunno...They're much easier to get on/off the rim though! But so far, I'm happy I made the move.

Bike (med frame) now weighs 9.85kg.

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I've lowered my handlebar of the SLR2 by reversing the stem and also moving it down a few spacers on the steerers. I think it made for a better handling bike - it also feels racier with more weight up front rather than behind.

If anything it made the SLR2 looked even better....a bit more macho.
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I've lowered my handlebar of the SLR2 by reversing the stem and also moving it down a few spacers on the steerers. I think it made for a better handling bike - it also feels racier with more weight up front rather than behind.

If anything it made the SLR2 looked even better....a bit more macho.

Interesting... Can you stand up safely over the bars now, even going downhill? Is it not too twitchy at speed? Does it do sharp corners well at speed? Many design factors combine to make a bike safe, it might be wise to check out the performance of that mod before you need to in an emergency
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Interesting... Can you stand up safely over the bars now, even going downhill? Is it not too twitchy at speed? Does it do sharp corners well at speed? Many design factors combine to make a bike safe, it might be wise to check out the performance of that mod before you need to in an emergency
All good - i'm no novice. The stem was lowered by a few spacers only.

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With more weight at the front on the lowered front I've noted more bite in the front when taking corners.

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My 2016 Toughroad. Awesome commuter bike!
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wow - i noted quite a few 'upgrades' - carbon handlebar, single chainring in front, shorter stem (most obvious!)...... care to share why you made the changes - just wanting to learn from others.
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Hey all

New member here. Firstly, thank you for this thread - It helped me decide that this was a bike I really wanted to try! I ended up getting a good price on a 2017 SLR 2 yesterday, so couldn't refuse

In an ideal world, I'd love to make a few minor upgrades:

Grips: I've actually just ordered some Ergon GP3s
Tyres: My commute is mostly paved, so thinking something thinner - what do you recommend?
Wheels: I'd love to actually get a second set that I can put the above mentioned thinner tyres on and keep the fatter ones for weekends. What's cheap but decent? I'm not too heavy at 70kg.
Rack: Anyone using a Topeak?
Fenders: Maybe at some point - any recommendations?

Anyways, glad to be part of this community and thanks again for making my choice easy!
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wow - i noted quite a few 'upgrades' - carbon handlebar, single chainring in front, shorter stem (most obvious!)...... care to share why you made the changes - just wanting to learn from others.
Honestly the changes were made mostly for aesthetic reason, nothing more. The bike does ride better with smoother shifting and better wheels, of course.
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Honestly the changes were made mostly for aesthetic reason, nothing more. The bike does ride better with smoother shifting and better wheels, of course.
Are you able to elaborate on your setup? Love the lights and am wondering on your upgrades to components.
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Are you able to elaborate on your setup? Love the lights and am wondering on your upgrades to components.
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Sure.

Drivetrain- Shimano XT 1x11 with 34 front chainring and 11-42 cassette. Brakes upgraded to XT Ice Tech 180mm F, and 160mm R, Rotors
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Bike is looking sharp.
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Tyres: My commute is mostly paved, so thinking something thinner - what do you recommend?
Wheels: I'd love to actually get a second set that I can put the above mentioned thinner tyres on and keep the fatter ones for weekends. What's cheap but decent? I'm not too heavy at 70kg.

Fenders: Maybe at some point - any recommendations?
I don't think the tires have huge rolling resistance. Not sure about your area, but here MUPs have frost-heaving, gravel etc. Also bike lanes on roads (and roads themselves) often are bad. Maybe not bad for cars, but definitely bad for bikes. Especially since the edge of the road is even worse. I'm happy every time to have the 50 mm tires.

Read this and other sources on how wider tire with less pressure can be better in real life.

And changing wheels all the time gets old soon. Maybe ride along your paths and roads and pay very good attention to the surface.

I got Planet bike Fenders on mine.
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Sure.

Drivetrain- Shimano XT 1x11 with 34 front chainring and 11-42 cassette. Brakes upgraded to XT Ice Tech 180mm F, and 160mm R, Rotors
Wheelset- Stans No-Tube Arch EX 29" with Specialized S-Works 1.95" XC Tubeless tires
I like the front rotor increase to 180 mm. Definitely plan the same once the old one wears out.

I like the tubeless wheels. Did you buy new rims for other reason? I mean did you try the "ghetto" tubeless setups like adding rim tape, sealant etc.? I'm asking because for my next tires I also like to go tubeless, but don't want to buy all new wheels. Although that would be great.

But I wonder why you went to a 1x setup? Do you often spin out with the 34T-11T? I just wonder since I rarely use the rear 11T cog, but some downhills I'm glad I have it with my 42T front chainring (I have the SLR 1 with 2x10).
Don't get me wrong, I really like 1x concept (converted a 3x9 to 1x9 on a different bike and love it), but would be afraid to lose the range since i on occasion use the lowest and highest gear (and even if for 1%).
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But I wonder why you went to a 1x setup?.
Wide range cassettes are starting to almost eliminate the need for 2x or 3x on bikes of this type which occasionally see gravel, light off-road and pavement.

I have a 32 chainring with 11-42 cassette on my Niner Air 9. Did a gravel race with it a couple of weeks ago and was easily able to maintain 18-20 mph on the paved sections of the race.
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