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Old 09-28-16, 07:13 AM
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You seem to have your head screwed on obelix and your current riding and future aims seem quite realistic. I would perhaps ride a few other bikes and get a feel, see if you feel confident on them. It's hard to tell from a 10 minute bike shop test but it's the only thing I can suggest. I bought a racer years back after cycling for 6 years on a bike similar to your roam and within a week regretted it, sold it forthwith. Go and have a read of this thread, http://www.bikeforums.net/hybrid-bic...c01-105-a.html It's about the BMC alpenchallenge AC01 105.

I was impressed by the bike myself as I prefer flat bar bikes. I think it would still give you the safety aspects of wider tires etc, and if you can believe this blurb, it would solve your desire for more speed.

When our team sat down to design a new Alpenchallenge AC01, the goal was clear. The new design had to be faster: faster than all previous BMC urban bicycles, faster than the competition, and faster than you might expect possible of a commuter bicycle with flat bars. Many bicycles are available in the urban, fitness, commuter speed and flat bar road bike segments, but if you want to pick the fastest bike, the benefits of our new Alpenchallenge AC01 should be obvious.
https://bikedepot.com/product/bmc-al...enge-ac01-105/
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Old 09-28-16, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by MRT2 View Post
If OP had thick, OEM tires and/or Knobbies, I might agree. But OP already has 28 mm slicks. Didn't mention the make and model, but I can't imagine he should go much narrower.
OP is using "Thickslick" brand slick tires which are geared for urban type bikes and are known for their cushy ride with soft rubber.
I'm thinking a more perforformance tire like what you'll find on road bikes "might" give the OP what he is after.
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Old 09-28-16, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by coominya View Post
You seem to have your head screwed on obelix and your current riding and future aims seem quite realistic. I would perhaps ride a few other bikes and get a feel, see if you feel confident on them. It's hard to tell from a 10 minute bike shop test but it's the only thing I can suggest. I bought a racer years back after cycling for 6 years on a bike similar to your roam and within a week regretted it, sold it forthwith. Go and have a read of this thread, http://www.bikeforums.net/hybrid-bic...c01-105-a.html It's about the BMC alpenchallenge AC01 105.

I was impressed by the bike myself as I prefer flat bar bikes. I think it would still give you the safety aspects of wider tires etc, and if you can believe this blurb, it would solve your desire for more speed.

https://bikedepot.com/product/bmc-al...enge-ac01-105/
As an alpenchallenge owner, I only can say that is the greatest hybrid I have never ride, it's my third hybrid after a BH (spanish brand) and a Sirrus (full carbon), and is my favorite. In the first moment I was wonder about the change from carbon to aluminum in the frame but after some rides, I forget.

Sirrus is the other choice (if I can have two bikes I get one) for me but the BMC is fast, lighter and very confortable.
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Old 09-29-16, 11:23 AM
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If you can easily afford it, get a good road bike with inline brake levers. Keep the hybrid as well!
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Old 10-03-16, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by AU Tiger View Post
I recently added these bar ends to my Fuji Absolute 1.5, which is nearly identical to your Escape 1, and I am loving the extra hand positions! You can see pics in this thread from a couple of weeks ago.

Thanks!
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Old 10-03-16, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Amigo_Frio View Post
If you can easily afford it, get a good road bike with inline brake levers. Keep the hybrid as well!

Sorry, how do inline brake levers help?
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Old 10-03-16, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by gilpi View Post
IMO, tires.
Though I've never used Thickslick tires, I've read and heard they have a high rolling resistance.
I would try some 700x25c continental, Vittoria or check what tires most roadies use.
Thanks, the thinnest my wheels can take are the 28c tires, but I hear you.
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Old 10-03-16, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by memebag View Post
ETA: Also, you don't have to think of it as an "upgrade". Different bikes have different purposes. My hybrid has knobby tires, fenders, a trunk rack and panniers. My road bike is just for riding.
Ah, that's a good way to approach this!
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Originally Posted by gilpi View Post
I road bike might give you that extra edge you're looking for at the cost of some comfort I guess.
My road bike feels fast as soon as I sit in it even though it's an older entry level but a lot has to do with its aggressive geometry and the tires I use.
I would still try some tires first and see how that work out and it's not going to be wasted cash since you can always use them on a road bike, should you get one later on.

Got it, thanks.
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Old 10-03-16, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MRT2 View Post
If OP had thick, OEM tires and/or Knobbies, I might agree. But OP already has 28 mm slicks. Didn't mention the make and model, but I can't imagine he should go much narrower.
I have these: https://www.amazon.com/Freedom-TR350.../dp/B0081UZDS0
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Old 10-03-16, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by coominya View Post
You seem to have your head screwed on obelix and your current riding and future aims seem quite realistic. I would perhaps ride a few other bikes and get a feel, see if you feel confident on them. It's hard to tell from a 10 minute bike shop test but it's the only thing I can suggest. I bought a racer years back after cycling for 6 years on a bike similar to your roam and within a week regretted it, sold it forthwith. Go and have a read of this thread, http://www.bikeforums.net/hybrid-bic...c01-105-a.html It's about the BMC alpenchallenge AC01 105.

I was impressed by the bike myself as I prefer flat bar bikes. I think it would still give you the safety aspects of wider tires etc, and if you can believe this blurb, it would solve your desire for more speed.

https://bikedepot.com/product/bmc-al...enge-ac01-105/
Will check the BMC bike, thanks a lot.
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Old 10-03-16, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ekol View Post
As an alpenchallenge owner, I only can say that is the greatest hybrid I have never ride, it's my third hybrid after a BH (spanish brand) and a Sirrus (full carbon), and is my favorite. In the first moment I was wonder about the change from carbon to aluminum in the frame but after some rides, I forget.

Sirrus is the other choice (if I can have two bikes I get one) for me but the BMC is fast, lighter and very confortable.
Wow, you prefer the alpenchallenge over the Sirrus full carbons? Interesting.
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Old 10-10-16, 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by obelix74 View Post
Wow, you prefer the alpenchallenge over the Sirrus full carbons? Interesting.
After ride both, I feel more reactive and fast the BMC, very light and with great construction. Sometimes we (me the first) read carbon forget the real use for the bike. Other great bike the Canyon Roadlite, is incredible, and 100% alu
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After ride both, I feel more reactive and fast the BMC, very light and with great construction. Sometimes we (me the first) read carbon forget the real use for the bike. Other great bike the Canyon Roadlite, is incredible, and 100% alu
Thanks.
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Old 10-11-16, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by obelix74 View Post
Sorry, how do inline brake levers help?

With inline brake levers, you can easily ride the tops of your road bike's drop handlebars. Then when its time to accelerate, you can assume the more streamline race position when holding onto the drops.
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Originally Posted by Amigo_Frio View Post
With inline brake levers, you can easily ride the tops of your road bike's drop handlebars. Then when its time to accelerate, you can assume the more streamline race position when holding onto the drops.

thanks, appreciate the explanation.
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Old 10-12-16, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Amigo_Frio View Post
With inline brake levers, you can easily ride the tops of your road bike's drop handlebars. Then when its time to accelerate, you can assume the more streamline race position when holding onto the drops.


Therefore, the road bike can ride like both a hybrid and a race bike!
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Therefore, the road bike can ride like both a hybrid and a race bike!
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You raise a good question - I can relate as I was in a similar position when I started riding a couple of years ago

As this thread demonstrates, Good questions do not necessarily have simple answers, and often lead to further questions

My 2c follows (others likely have different views, you need to find what works for you) - in no particular order:
~ Your hybrid should be good for 100 miles on a 'flattish' course - I accomplished such a trip on mine
~ Time on a bike is good, more time better (and time in gym - strength, core & especially stretching - I find to be very beneficial)
~ Do not under-estimate importance of tires (my general advice is to go with best quality you can afford; no narrower than you currently have & likely wider; no higher pressure than you currently use and I would go lower pressure, especially if you go to 32/35mm. If you have a few hours to spare, try typing ‘tires – width – pressures’ into google and see where you end up!)
~ I found bar-ends to be useful (alternatively one could try different handle bars - but I have no experience with that approach)
~ I rode in a group with mainly road bikes - I joined a local club and they had several 'levels' and I moved up the pace-rankings using my hybrid. Some group rides have a 'no drop' policy.
~ Do not under-estimate the benefit from riding in close formation with a group - the ones close behind the leaders get a significant benefit (the term is 'drafting', but this really needs some training to avoid one being a hazard to others/yourself). Some groups will provide such training, a few demand such training before joining the group.
~ hydration / food becomes more important over longer distances, (and also rest & sleep)
~ if you start riding more on roads, I recommend a decent quality flashing rear red light + (if you are stiff like me) a rear mirror
~ I have tended to gravitate towards better quality cycling shorts as I have increased distance
~ I found 'clipless' pedals helped (I bought Shimano MTB shoes + Shimano dual-sided pedal with platform/mountain-bike cleats)
~ review pedalling technique - in my case I found a higher cadence was merely one of the things that helped
~ Bike fit becomes more important over longer distances, if nothing else for peace-of-mind that you are not going to do damage to yourself
~ and yes, I do believe you will increase speed if you get a road bike. Likely 10%-15% faster (but not likely 25%). ~ I would certainly go for a bike that allows for tires upto 32mm (these bikes go by different names, ‘Adventure’ is one, and gravel is another). Do not worry too much about what they call it – make sure it is suitable for your body/intended use. This is where a proper ‘fitting’ for your hybrid can be beneficial, my fitter was able to indicate sizing/geometry parameters for a ‘drop-bar’ bike).

When to go N+1 partly depends on personal finances. I would tend to delay for another year to get more time on bike, get body closer to desired end-state, improve your understanding of what you want out of your next bike etc

Good luck

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Originally Posted by ekol View Post
After ride both, I feel more reactive and fast the BMC, very light and with great construction. Sometimes we (me the first) read carbon forget the real use for the bike. Other great bike the Canyon Roadlite, is incredible, and 100% alu




Hi I'm really struggling to decide between the 2017 BMC AlpenChallange AC01 Sora and The Canyon Roadlite 8.0.


Sounds like you have experience of both. Any idea which you would go for given a straight choice?
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