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Old 04-06-17, 01:12 PM
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Am I Nuts? (28mm GatorSkins on Cypress DX Hybrid)

Background: I've been riding an old Trek 7100 for a year, but everything is breaking. A local shop will sell me a Giant Cypress DX and swap the tires to 28mm GatorSkins for an extra $50.

I live on an island outside of Sarasota, which means the only hills are bridges. Wind and thorns are the big issues. I pedal at 12 - 16 mph depending on the wind and my companions. Sometimes they make me ride on the sidewalk at 10 mph (That's why I need suspension.) and sometimes I shop with a front basket. Other times I would like to speed along the road to make 15 miles in an hour. Versatility is the thing.

I get terrible pain when I don't sit upright on the bike. However I hope more consistent riding will give me the strength and flexibility to gradually lower the adjustable stem for better aero.

It this bike a reasonable solution my situation and are the GatorSkins a good upgrade?
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The Cypress does have a slightly more upright riding position than the Trek 7100 so that should help with back pain. However, there is nothing wrong with a 7100 (depending on what needs to be fixed/adjusted/replaced).
If you haven't already, ask your LBS if you can take the Cypress for a test ride.
As far as the tires go, I'd also look at Continental's Grand Prix 4 seasons as they have just about the same amount of puncture protection as the Gatorskins - but they are a little lighter. Lighter is always better!
The Gatorskins are a good tire - but they have been around for many years.
The Grand Prix 4 seasons are one of Continental's latest models featuring puncture resistance.
Road Bike Tire Comparison: Continental Gatorskin Vs Continental Grand Prix 4 Season
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Gatorskins are about the last tire I'd want on any bike, especially a comfort hybrid. Have you felt the things? Gatorskins feel like garden hose with water frozen inside.

If I rode mostly pavement with lots of sharp pokey things I'd get some Michelin Protek Urbans in 700x35 or 38.

But because I ride gravel and off road, and bombed out pavement with lots of broken glass, grass burrs, and construction debris (staples, nails, drywall screws, etc.), I got Michelin Protek Cross Max 700x40. Good match for my Globe Carmel comfort hybrid (very similar to the Giant Cypress DX). They are heavy but comfortable and very stable on slippery stuff. My average speed over 10-60 miles is around 12 mph. But not a single puncture flat in almost 18 months. I've plucked out bits of broken glass, thorns, etc., and the tread has been slashed down to the Aramid fiber puncture shield, but nothing has flatted the tires.

Or check out Schwalbe Marathon Green Guards. Wider, should be more comfortable, same rolling resistance as the Gatorskins. Everyone I've met locally who rides the Schwalbes on their hybrids loves 'em. Most road bike riders who use Gatorskins seem to regard them as a necessary evil, not particularly desirable if they didn't need to worry about punctures.
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First, I will say I hate suspension forks on inexpensive bikes. So unless I was riding a lot of off-road, I would say skip that and budget for a wider and plusher tire.

If you have your heart set on Giant, I would put a more plush tire on a faster bike, like the Escape 2 or Escape 1. Either of these bikes will be a full 3 to 5 lbs lighter than the Cypress.

If the riding position is too low, get a riser stem to bring the bars up. For carrying caro, I would suggest a basic rack mounted on the back of the bike.
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How old is this Giant?
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Thank you for your generous and highly useful answer.

Yes, the Cypress sits even more upright. It's fantastic for me; no body weight on my hands at all. This will let me extend my range to 20 miles and adjacent islands.

Also checked out the Grand Prix 4 tires. $44 on Amazon. As you say, they are a much better replacement tire. I'll be ordering them right away along with other accessories.
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Thanks for great advice. Your frozen water hose illustration put me right off the GatorSkins.

The Giant tires on the bike are said to have a measure of puncture resistance built in. So I'll ride on them with a spare tube for a while. They are extremely comfortable, even at 80 psi. We'll see how fast I can get them to go.
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Thanks for the help. The back rack you mention is for sure. I've been pushing my front basket beyond reason.

Even with bigger tires, the Cypress is much lighter than the Trek I've been using. But bike weight means little here on the islands. I'm really trying to get a bike that will grow with me, so the adjustable stem is a key feature. Maybe I'll lock the suspension if I can get fast enough.
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It is one day old. For $415 new, I lost all my enthusiasm for hunting a used bike.
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no flats in 5 years
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I'll look them up. Two flats in 2 weeks.
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I'll look them up. Two flats in 2 weeks.
I have used Panaracer Ribmos for 5 years, currently on my second set. Very durable tire. Only a couple of flats in 5 years, and over 5,000 miles, and one of them was caused by a sharp edge inside the rim. Can't say it is the lightest, or subtlest tire, though.
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