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Old 09-30-17, 08:10 PM
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These Bars ? or These Bars?

Lucky enough to score a "newish" Surly Ogre, the LBS sold the Jones Bars off the bike, but part of the deal was to get the Jones Bars back. Well just like every LBS story, they "can't get the Jones Bars for a few weeks". Here comes a wonderful "problem", they can instead get me the Surly Koloko bars instead. I'm leaning towards the Moloko....

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Or the Koloko ?

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Old 09-30-17, 08:45 PM
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Koloko...more hand positions. Look something like a set of Velo Orange I have for my hybrid frankenbike.
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Old 09-30-17, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Stormsedge View Post
Koloko...more hand positions.
That's what I'm thinking. More hand positions, but the Jones Bar is so "retro" to the Ogre.
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Old 09-30-17, 08:57 PM
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This is my set up now, Salsa bar, not bad, not a Jones Bar

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Old 10-01-17, 10:35 AM
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Both Jones H and Koloko are ugly... butt ugly. Jones is functional, have it on Troll; but KarateMonkey stays with a simple Salsa just like your Ogre.

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Old 10-01-17, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ksywa View Post
Both Jones H and Koloko are ugly... butt ugly. Jones is functional, have it on Troll; but KarateMonkey stays with a simple Salsa just like your Ogre.

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I prefer function over form, so looks don't matter much, besides I don't either bar looks ugly.
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Old 10-03-17, 08:30 PM
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I've been using the Jones bar for several years now and I love it. I hated the flat bar my Fuji came with. You knew exactly when you had done 30 miles with that bar because that is when your hands would go numb. I used a butterfly touring bar for a while and that was much better. The Jones bar is better yet. It offers all the hand positions you need for long rides on the road and it works really well for off road and gravel as well. They now have a riser model for those that want a more upright riding position. I'd have ditched the Fuji long ago for a drop bar road or touring bike if it wasn't for the Jones bar. And while I don't think of handlebars as being beautiful or ugly, the Jones bar is as attractive as it is functional. I've done most or all of the last six RAGBRAIs on the Fuji Absolute 1.0 with the Jones bar and Vittoria Voyager Hyper 38 tires and the three make a wonderful machine for a week long supported tour.

Never heard of the other one before but it sure looks like it would be very similar as far as function goes if you want to take the chance on it.
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Two of the most functional handlebars out there.


At least one, if not both of those handlebars will be in my future, probably the Moloko bar first because it will cost me a lot less to acquire it due to postage costs.
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Old 10-03-17, 11:33 PM
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The bullhorns on the Moloko look fantastic and an obvious place to grip your handlebars when you want a different position.


The biggest knock on the Moloko is its weight, coming in at a portly 709 grams.


I would be cutting the length down to the 685mm markings, down from the default 735mm.


Dunno if the Cro-moly Moloko would absorb vibrations any better than an aluminium handlebar, or with rubber grips, it is a non-factor to start with.


Here are some pics of this beast in its natural habitat.
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Old 10-04-17, 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Scooty Puff Jr View Post
I prefer function over form, so looks don't matter much, besides I don't either bar looks ugly.
I just put Velo Orange Casey Crazy Bars (cannot get the link to post) on my frankenbike. Still have some tinkering to do, but seem an improvement.
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Old 10-04-17, 05:03 AM
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I've been drooling over the Moloko bars. The Jones bars are better looking but the Moloko look more functional.
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Old 10-04-17, 07:12 PM
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Well, I decided on the Moloko bar, but of course they're on back order, the LBS says Nov 20, which probably means Jan 2018. I'm in no rush since I have other things to do to the bike, which eventually will be my Saturday "beer ride" and grocery getter ride.
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Originally Posted by ColonelSanders View Post
The bullhorns on the Moloko look fantastic and an obvious place to grip your handlebars when you want a different position

Here are some pics of this beast in its natural habitat.
Man oh man, those pics have definitely made me feel that I made the right choice.
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Old 10-06-17, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by khutch View Post
I've been using the Jones bar for several years now and I love it. I hated the flat bar my Fuji came with. You knew exactly when you had done 30 miles with that bar because that is when your hands would go numb. I used a butterfly touring bar for a while and that was much better. The Jones bar is better yet. It offers all the hand positions you need for long rides on the road and it works really well for off road and gravel as well. They now have a riser model for those that want a more upright riding position. I'd have ditched the Fuji long ago for a drop bar road or touring bike if it wasn't for the Jones bar. And while I don't think of handlebars as being beautiful or ugly, the Jones bar is as attractive as it is functional. I've done most or all of the last six RAGBRAIs on the Fuji Absolute 1.0 with the Jones bar and Vittoria Voyager Hyper 38 tires and the three make a wonderful machine for a week long supported tour.

Never heard of the other one before but it sure looks like it would be very similar as far as function goes if you want to take the chance on it.

I've previously used butterfly bars, and found them decent, ditto for bar ends. I have another flat bar bike that I would like to make more comfortable for the occasional longer ride. I've had the Jones bars on my short list, and more recently, the Surly open bars. I'd like to have a little more natural wrist position, and the ability to reach forward for a change, but do not want to get the bike any more upright...I like the position I'm in on the flat bar in general. Did you need to go with a longer stem, or is the original stem, more upright position what you wanted?
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Old 10-07-17, 09:48 AM
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Maybe a pic of the whole bike with those bars would be in order. I appreciate the close up for the detail of the bars, but it would be interesting to see how the whole bike looks while rocking those bars.
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Wish Jones would do a narrower version for road use.
Attempting to calculate how close the hands are at the standard position (reach brake lever) when shifters/brakes and grips are pushed as far in as possible, I get something like 550mm ??
That's almost 100mm more than what I have on my current flat-bar, which I have cut down to 550mm to get arms to point straight ahead, a bit like on a drop-bar.
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Ah ha! Velo Orange Crazy Bars...still tinkering because I can.
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Originally Posted by Stormsedge View Post
Ah ha! Velo Orange Crazy Bars...still tinkering because I can.
How wide are those Crazy bars?


I like how you have positioned your mirror.


Are the built in bullhorns too wide or just right?
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Originally Posted by ColonelSanders View Post
How wide are those Crazy bars?


I like how you have positioned your mirror.


Are the built in bullhorns too wide or just right?
Sorry, no Metric tape...width is ~26.5" at bar ends and ~15.3" at inside of bullhorns (probably .5-.75 less than the tops of my drop bars). The website actually has a drawing...666mm between ends and 400mm between bullhorns. So, the bullhorns seem about right, but I haven't put any real miles on this setup yet.

Gotta have my mirror.
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@Stormsedge thanks for the pics. After seeing those bars actually mounted on a bike, they look very functional. Could see those being very beneficial. I see that you're using an adjustable stem. Did you find that you needed something longer, or maybe you were looking to also get more upright?
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@Stormsedge thanks for the pics. After seeing those bars actually mounted on a bike, they look very functional. Could see those being very beneficial. I see that you're using an adjustable stem. Did you find that you needed something longer, or maybe you were looking to also get more upright?
Actually, I purchased that bike new but unseen, 27ish years ago, before I knew there was more to fit besides stand over. When I started to get serious again some months ago, I realized the bike was actually a bit big, so the adjustable stem is shorter than the original by probably 30mm. I used two different set of bars prior to the Crazy Bars, both with the stem raised for a more upright position. Since then, I've gained some flexibility and the Crazy Bars sweep back, so I lowered the stem a bit, effectively lengthening the stem a smidge, but retaining a fairly upright position.
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