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Old 03-07-18, 11:18 PM
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Surly Straggler or Jamis Expat?

Iím torn. Help.
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Old 03-08-18, 07:37 PM
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Welcome.

Some more info would be helpful. How are you torn between the two? Bang for the buck? Colors? What is your intended use?
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Some more info would be helpful. How are you torn between the two? Bang for the buck? Colors? What is your intended use?
I want a bike I can ride daily on the road and on dirt/gravel. Yet I also want to start doing weekend touring. Iíve read reviews stating the Expat is more comfortable. Straggler can handle more of a load touring. Straggler is more of a tank.
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Old 03-09-18, 06:16 AM
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They both look very similar. The Jamis seems to be the more "modern" approach, with a sleek carbon fork and integrated headset. The Jamis fork does use a thru-axle system, which is superior to a conventional quick release. The Jamis comes with 36mm wide tires, with clearance up to 42mm tires according to the website. The Jamis frame comes with three sets of bottle cage mounts, and it appears that the fork has at least one additional set (probably two).

The Surly appears to be a more "old school" bike, with a traditional chromoly fork and conventional external bearing headset. It doesn't say how many bottle cage mounts come on the bike, but the frame appears to have two sets, and the forks don't appear to have any (just the regular mid-point rack mount).

They appear similar, but the Jamis may be better for touring if only for the additional mounting options for bottle cages and other accessories that use that mounting footprint. These are specialized enough that your local bike shop probably doesn't have a floor model of each to try. The typical advice is to ride both to see what fits you best, but that is not likely possible in this situation. My gut says the Jamis is the better of the two suited for what you want to do.

I recommend checking with the touring sub-forum on Bike Forums. They may have better info related to touring in particular.
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Any bike shop with a QBP account can order a Surly, but you have to find a Jamis dealer to find those,
odds are if there is a Jamis dealer, they also have a QBP account for the small parts they offer too..
to compare them in person..

My local shop does not handle the Jamis brand, they get Surly as the customer wants them .. its paid up front, with QBP.

the shops main brand is Trek, they ship to their established dealers on a rotating credit, so potentially selling the bikes then paying the bill.

here is the top of the line bike from them, in FX series, carbon fiber frame and fork of course..
https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/b...olorCode=black





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I recently got an Expat and so far I really like it. I considered a few other bikes, including the Straggler (didn't get to test ride one though), but knew I wanted the Expat right after the test ride. I feel like it is one of the better values out there and definitely a very versatile bike (very adequate road, gravel, bikepacking bike).
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