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Old 11-19-18, 07:50 PM
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XT T780 vs. Deore T610 vs. Alivio T4000 V-Brake Armageddon!

I'm trying to decide which among these 3 sets of V-Breaks to get for one of my hybrids. I'm a fair weather cyclist who lives in a flat and boring (in oh so many ways ) part of the country. I'm going to do a full overhaul over the Winter just to keep my sanity.

All are in silver to match the bike and other components (crankset, rear derailleur, shifter pods, yadda yadda). Here's the cost breakdown...
  • Shimano XT T780: $24.87 for rear
  • Shimano Deore T610: $23.99 for rear
  • Shimano Alivio T4000: $12.49 for rear

For some reason the fronts are more expensive or OOS so I plan to buy 2 rears and switch the pads - i.e. no difference.

Any free advice? Does one set modulate better? Other than the pads, I don't see much of a difference, but I'm not a mechanic.
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XT T780 vs. Deore T610 vs. Alivio T4000 V-Brake Armageddon!

I'm trying to decide which among these 3 sets of V-Breaks to get for one of my hybrids. I'm a fair weather cyclist who lives in a flat and boring (in oh so many ways ) part of the country. I'm going to do a full overhaul over the Winter just to keep my sanity.

All are in silver to match the bike and other components (crankset, rear derailleur, shifter pods, yadda yadda). Here's the cost breakdown...
  • Shimano XT T780: $24.87 for rear
  • Shimano Deore T610: $23.99 for rear
  • Shimano Alivio T4000: $12.49 for rear

For some reason the fronts are more expensive or OOS so I plan to buy 2 rears and switch the pads - i.e. no difference.

Any free advice? Does one set modulate better? Other than the pads, I don't see much of a difference, but I'm not a mechanic.
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Woops! Meant to put this under General Cycling.
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XT is the highest level of the three while Alivio is the lowest. The higher levels may be made stronger, lighter and preform / adjust better. All three should stop you.

Unfortunately, I can't tell you anything about those brakes specifically.

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For what its worth, on the insider view I can tell you the Alivio groupset is vastly ahead this year than previous years. I couldn't resist the cost and got a set to try out on my xc race bike and can say that while it isn't quite the XT of this year, it is on par with the LX of previous years in a lot of cases. Trickle down engineering. Granted it will wear out sooner but it also cost a lot less. Don't get me wrong, XTR is still the win, but cost is vast out running my budget even as a shop employee. Go Alivio and don't regret it for the savings.
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I've had XT and the Deore ones; can't comment on the Alivio.

TBH, the main advantage of Deore/XT is the cartridge pad/holder. Not sure if the current Alivios have this?

I'm a long-time v-brake user. Since '11, my main bike has had TRP CX9s and Avid Speed Dial levers, with XTR cables. Any good v-brake at this level (XT/Deore; TRP; the Avids) is an upgrade over cheapo/stock Tektros, for example, simply because the arms are stiffer.

That said, the real secret is lever/cable, pad choice (I like KoolStops) and servicing. Using something like Avid Speed Dial levers (https://www.sram.com/avid/products/speed-dial-7) along with the best cables you can get, will give very good results, and will stay in adjustment, provided one takes the trouble to clean the pivots/bushings maybe once a year.
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Been using Vs since the day they came out literally, still have an original set of XT's in use. The new ones are no longer high end items and lack differentiating features like parallel push so the non cosmetic difference is the pads. There is likely no weight savings here by going XT. Alivio has two models: older model without replaceable pads and newer one with replaceable pads; get the newer one. If it makes a difference, XT is probably still made in Japan whereas Alivio is Malaysia (maybe)

I'd vote for Alivios with Koolstop pads; never really liked S pads. Don't neglect the rims, levers, and cables, they make a difference also. As mentioned above, modern Alivio is really really nice.
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Thanks for the replies.

I really like V-brakes and am sorry to see them being phased out.
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The old style brakes will be around for a while. It’s a win for us that like them. While everybody else is chasing the “new and improved”,we will be able to get older tech for great savings!

To answer your question, go XT.
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The old style brakes will be around for a while. It’s a win for us that like them. While everybody else is chasing the “new and improved” ...
I say let them chase. I like the equipment from circa 1995 - 2005 myself. I'm still running Windows 7 also.

... we will be able to get older tech for great savings!
Most of the time, yes. But have you priced Shimano 105 UN-5500 Octalink bottom brackets lately? Crazy! Performance has a great price on them right now, but they are out of the 68x118 size, which is what I need. Wouldn't you know?

https://www.performancebike.com/shop...racket-50-6860

To answer your question, go XT.
Already placed the order for Alivio with better pads.

I've been watching your progress in the What Did You Do For Your Hybrid thread. The fork looks great! Looking forward to seeing some outside pics of the final product.
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