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Old 12-11-18, 07:43 AM
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Between a Quick 4 and a Escape disc 1.

Please read my last post, #4 , as things have changed. thank you for your input and I do apologize for being a pia.
Frank.


So it has come down to these two bikes. I believe they are spect out about the same except for the tires and the cranks. SR Suntour, 48/36/26 - Shimano Acera, 26/36/48, the SR is on the Quick and the other on the Escape. I have a Quick 7 so I know the frame fit and I have ridden the Escape so that is all good. The tubeless tire is not a factor to me as I do not see myself staying with them and dealing with the sealant and such. The Quick is supposedly set up for tubeless so if I did change my mind later on I would have that option with either bike. The price of the two bikes is exactly the same so my only decision is - is one of these bikes speced out better? The SR is half the price on the internet but is the Acera any better?
Thanks in advance, Frank.

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Old 12-11-18, 09:15 AM
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I recently purchased a 2019 Escape 1 disc, so can provide some insight on the differences. I do not have a Cannondale dealer nearby so I have not compared the Cannondale in person, but as you mentioned it is quite similarly speced / priced.


1) Axles / Hubs: Hubs on the Giant are cup and cone style. Whereas the Cannondale appears to have sealed bearings. Iíve not had issues with cup and cone hubs, but on both of the Giant bikes Iíve purchased recently with GX28 wheels, Iíve repacked the hubs and re-adjusted as they were set too tight.


The Cannondale also appears to have a front through axle which IMO is an upgrade from the QR axle on the Giant.


2) Tires. The Giant Roam 1 disc uses what Giant calls "tubless easy" tires. This means the tire has an inner section of rubber to create a sealed ďtubeless tireĒ without having to seal the rim spoke holes using rim tape and the tires come setup filled with sealant. I was not planning on using the stock tires anyway (switched to Maxxis Rambler 40c's) but in order to setup the Giant as tubeless using a true tubeless ready tire will require rim tape and tubeless valve stems (rims are drilled for Presta). The Giant rims with tubeless tape and tubeless valve stems setup fine as tubeless.


3) Drivetrain / Cranks: No experience with the Suntour crank but I switched out the crank to a Shimano hollowtech II and am running a 1x10 setup, so donít really have any long term experience with the stock Shimano cranks other than they are fairly heavy.
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Old 12-11-18, 09:47 AM
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Frank, here's my input.

Components: both bikes have some on-paper advantages compared with the other. The Quick has a 12mm through axle in the front, which is an advantage over the Escape's quick release. The Escape has an Alivio "Shadow" derailer (M4000) vs. the Quick's traditional Acera derailer (T3000 probably). I would prefer the nicer "Shadow" derailer (firmer shift feel), but I would also prefer the through axle. The derailer is easy to change, but you can't change the axle type without a different hub and fork. The Quick comes stock with 30mm tires and the Escape comes with 35mm tires. Both seem like quality tires, so think to yourself if you'd be more likely to prefer the wider ones or the narrower ones (because that would potentially be cost added to the bike if you wanted to replace the tires right away). The cranksets are functional equivalent, and I wouldn't worry about it.

Other Considerations: to me, the components are so close in spec that I would focus more on the style of the bike. Which one has the color you like better?! Do you like the Quick's orange or graphite, or do you prefer the Escape's pearly white color? Buy the color you like best. Moreso if the same shop sells both and that's not a factor. If they are sold at different bike shops, which one gives you the best feeling?
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They made me an offer I couldn't refuse.



When I went to look at a Quick 4 the nice people there noted a 2018 Quick 3. The price was less than the 4 or the Escape 1 so after an enthusiastic test ride I layed down the money and went home a very happy man.
Thank you all for putting up with my endless and misdirected questions but what I ended up with is so much more than I was hoping for. Took it out when I got it home then jumped on the yellow 7 and it is night and day. Not that the 7 is bad just a bit more comfort bike that the 3. Gearing is going to take some getting used to also but I think I can find the time to work it through.
Again, sorry for the garbage I have put you folks through but I could not be happier.
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Great choice! You have many happy miles ahead. Just one question what is the white stuff in the background?
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Frank, it looks great! Happy miles on that.

(You guys really lucked up on the snow -- I'm up in the VA/WV/MD area and it was originally looking to be a good storm for us, but the track went south and we got nuthin'! Maybe next storm...)
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Frank, it looks great! Happy miles on that.

(You guys really lucked up on the snow -- I'm up in the VA/WV/MD area and it was originally looking to be a good storm for us, but the track went south and we got nuthin'! Maybe next storm...)
Thanks, we got around 6-7 in. but it rained and then today we had some sun so it is melting rapidly. Got the new bike home around 2:30 and got in a quick three miles.
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Come on guys on a serious off road bike a through axle makes sense. But we’re talking a rigid city bike. A QR on the Escape is more than adequate.
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When I went to look at a Quick 4 the nice people there noted a 2018 Quick 3. The price was less than the 4 or the Escape 1 so after an enthusiastic test ride I layed down the money and went home a very happy man.
Thank you all for putting up with my endless and misdirected questions but what I ended up with is so much more than I was hoping for. Took it out when I got it home then jumped on the yellow 7 and it is night and day. Not that the 7 is bad just a bit more comfort bike that the 3. Gearing is going to take some getting used to also but I think I can find the time to work it through.
Again, sorry for the garbage I have put you folks through but I could not be happier.
Frank.

All's well that ends well.


Nice looking new bike.
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Excellent purchase. I have the Quick CX 3, which was a fairly obvious choice since I have a capable road bike already. If I didn't have a 105-equipped road bike I would have sought out a Quick 3 (not CX).

I don't think you could have made a wrong choice among the options presented but you managed to grab an upgrade on what would already gave been a good choice.
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