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hybridbkrdr 03-21-19 07:56 AM

Would you buy a hybrid with 2.5" tires?
 
I mean with something like the Schwalbe Super Moto X or Kenda Kwick Seven.5 with 27.5" wheels? Would you choose either disc brakes or V-brakes like the Tektro M730? Also, with mudguards as standard equipment?

HerrKaLeun 03-21-19 08:36 AM

Only with 700c/29" wheels

wgscott 03-21-19 08:43 AM

I'm not sure it fits the conventional definition of a hybrid bike, but it is 2.8" 27.5+


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e04b793365.jpg

rumrunn6 03-21-19 09:55 AM

fat tires, disk brakes & fenders? oh yeah! :thumb:

hybridbkrdr 03-21-19 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by HerrKaLeun (Post 20848230)
Only with 700c/29" wheels

I know you're probably not dumb but you know the circumference would be pretty large right? Would you still choose a 29er?

hokiefyd 03-21-19 05:26 PM

Many here already have, or close to it: the Specialized Roll comes with 27.5 x 2.3" tires. I'd like to convert my Roam from 29" wheels to 27.5" wheels, and then use a 2" or greater tire on it. I have 29 x 2" tires on it now, and they make the bike just a hair tall. A 27.5" x 2.3"ish tire is about the same overall diameter as a 700x38. One of the things I like about disc brakes is you can do this with rim sizes relatively easily.

HerrKaLeun 03-21-19 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by hybridbkrdr (Post 20849117)
I know you're probably not dumb but you know the circumference would be pretty large right? Would you still choose a 29er?

Unless you are small, I don't see the disadvantage of large wheels. 29+ is an actual category offered by a few manufacturers. Rolls better over rough terrain.

CliffordK 03-21-19 09:14 PM

While not a particular hybrid or fat tire user, I am planning to build a bike around the Surly Extra Terrestrial tires sometime in the near future. Drop bars, of course. Probably front suspension. Generally intended for rough gravel riding/touring.

hybridbkrdr 03-22-19 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by CliffordK (Post 20849438)
While not a particular hybrid or fat tire user, I am planning to build a bike around the Surly Extra Terrestrial tires sometime in the near future. Drop bars, of course. Probably front suspension. Generally intended for rough gravel riding/touring.

I would re-think the front suspension. I have a mountain bike with Rockshox XC 30 forks and although it's a good fork and I like the fact it doesn't make me dive when I brake, I'm inclined to think sometimes I'd go for a rigid fork. I mean if it's not plush enough to dive while braking it also gives the impression it's almost useless for regular city biking. (I know about replacing the coil to a softer one but don't want to do it since I don't want to dive while braking anyway. lol)

base2 03-22-19 09:05 AM

A rigid mountain bike? Yes.
A "hybrid" not so much. The wide tires just kill the utility for street use. My feeling is it is too far in the dirt direction to be called a hybrid.

CliffordK 03-22-19 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by hybridbkrdr (Post 20849921)
I would re-think the front suspension. I have a mountain bike with Rockshox XC 30 forks and although it's a good fork and I like the fact it doesn't make me dive when I brake, I'm inclined to think sometimes I'd go for a rigid fork. I mean if it's not plush enough to dive while braking it also gives the impression it's almost useless for regular city biking. (I know about replacing the coil to a softer one but don't want to do it since I don't want to dive while braking anyway. lol)

Virtually all of the mid to upper range suspension systems have a lockout feature.

But, yes, there is extra weight and complexity.

It will be an interesting experiment. Then I could do something different for number 2.

AlmostTrick 03-22-19 09:49 AM

No. Tires that wide (and suspension for that matter) are for mountain bikes. But then, these bike category labels are fairly blurred, so call it, (and get) what ever you want!

seat_boy 03-23-19 05:52 AM

You mean like this?
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...78d8e739c9.jpg

hybridbkrdr 03-23-19 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by base2 (Post 20849933)
A rigid mountain bike? Yes.
A "hybrid" not so much. The wide tires just kill the utility for street use. My feeling is it is too far in the dirt direction to be called a hybrid.

Well, I meant the same geometry as a hybrid. But, possibly with a semi-aggressive posture so you can bend your elbows and go faster when you're in a rush.

I'm partly talking about this because in the area where I live, the last winter just WRECKED the roads. I mean we had periods of freezing then thawing several times which resulted in pot holes on the road that are so bad, some roads are closed. In the long term, you may have problems with front suspension anyway so...

fietsbob 03-23-19 11:58 AM

29er Plus may lose it's Hybrid category standing...

base2 03-23-19 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by hybridbkrdr (Post 20851204)
Well, I meant the same geometry as a hybrid. But, possibly with a semi-aggressive posture so you can bend your elbows and go faster when you're in a rush.

I'm partly talking about this because in the area where I live, the last winter just WRECKED the roads. I mean we had periods of freezing then thawing several times which resulted in pot holes on the road that are so bad, some roads are closed. In the long term, you may have problems with front suspension anyway so...

I read & understood the question. 2.5 is just too wide for road use. Broken and terrible or not. IMO, about 41c is probably just about ideal for what you are describing your conditions are. So my answer remains that I would not buy a hybrid with 2.5 inch wide tires.

You could always buy the bike with the wide clearance for future options & install tires more suited to current conditions. In that case, it might be a smart buy. See if the bike shop will swap for better tires & you might be a happy camper.

Paul Barnard 03-24-19 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by hybridbkrdr (Post 20848158)
I mean with something like the Schwalbe Super Moto X or Kenda Kwick Seven.5 with 27.5" wheels? Would you choose either disc brakes or V-brakes like the Tektro M730? Also, with mudguards as standard equipment?

How can this conversation even begin with so little information. How and where you intend to use it matters.

DorkDisk 03-24-19 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by seat_boy (Post 20851017)

Longest chainstays ever. Plush?

GrainBrain 03-24-19 07:15 AM

Sure I would. Here's my do it all mtb, 29er and 2.2" tires (continental x-kings). I ride a lot of pavement with it in the winter, total blast. I also obviously use it off road in the summer so it has the suspension fork. I can easily pump out 50 miles with it, it's about choosing good rolling tires and pumping the air pressure up. I'll keep the pressure at about 40psi on pavement unless there's alot of snow and ice.

I've always wanted an N+1 bike that had a light frame, lighter wheelset and rigid fork with the same tires.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...33115095b.jpeg

hybridbkrdr 03-24-19 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by Paul Barnard (Post 20852302)
How can this conversation even begin with so little information. How and where you intend to use it matters.

Believe it or not, I wouldn't mind using a bike like that like a full-blown commuter with mudguards and front and rear racks. The point is I could get groceries or whatever without any fear of potholes and just barrel through. Or even as a weekend adventure bike. But, still with a semi-aggressive position so I could bend my elbows and lean forward to go faster if I'm really impatient.

hybridbkrdr 03-25-19 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by seat_boy (Post 20851017)

What bike is this? It looks modified.

By the way, If you search for Bobtrax X5 in eBay, you'll find something equivalent to what I was thinking about. Although it has 3" tires. However, it would be possible to install 2.5 inch tires on it. And for mudguards, I think it may be possible to modify the SKS Bluemels 75 U to fit the bike. (Those are made for a 29er but maybe cutting down the rods might do it.)

hokiefyd 03-25-19 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by hybridbkrdr (Post 20853730)
What bike is this? It looks modified.

If you search for the name of the bike, "clem smith jr", you'll find that it's a Rivendell model -- very nice stuff.

andrei_r 03-25-19 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by GrainBrain (Post 20852336)
Sure I would. Here's my do it all mtb, 29er and 2.2" tires (continental x-kings). I ride a lot of pavement with it in the winter, total blast. I also obviously use it off road in the summer so it has the suspension fork. I can easily pump out 50 miles with it, it's about choosing good rolling tires and pumping the air pressure up. I'll keep the pressure at about 40psi on pavement unless there's alot of snow and ice.

I've always wanted an N+1 bike that had a light frame, lighter wheelset and rigid fork with the same tires.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...33115095b.jpeg


Is it me or your front mudguard is installed backwards?

Edit: On second thought it's probably installed that way due to the rear facing fork crown.

HerrKaLeun 03-26-19 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by fietsbob (Post 20851424)
29er Plus may lose it's Hybrid category standing...

The definitions seem blurry, but if we assume a hybrid is meant to be a "hybrid" of road and mountain bike, the 29+ isn't a contradiction.

Most hybrids have flatbar, MTB groupsets and wider tires (compared to road), but have no suspension and a more road geometry.... and many variations of that.
Most hybrids come with 700c wheels, which is the exact same rim as 29" (or called 28"in europe, but exact same size). 29+ is exactly like all the hybrids most manufacturers sell, just some wider tires for more comfort and our ever degrading roads.

My hybrid (Toughroad) can fit up to 2.2" tires

hybridbkrdr 03-27-19 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by wgscott (Post 20848240)
I'm not sure it fits the conventional definition of a hybrid bike, but it is 2.8" 27.5+


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e04b793365.jpg

Which bike is that? It looks like it has a suspension-corrected fork which means it would be a challenge to find full-length fenders.


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