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Old 12-19-19, 09:27 AM
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Help with Tire choice.

I am currently running Schwalbe Lugano, 700 x 32c, K-Guard, tires on my Quick and have had no problems with them over about 800 miles. I run them at 70 psi and I ride blacktop streets and in NC mostly summer weather no rain. The front tire has held it's tread well but the rear has certainly shown its wear. I am 180 lbs and the most of the time I ride when it is 85 -90 deg. My question is what tire can I move to that would be in the 28-32 range have the puncture resistance I have with these but possibly better wear? I am new to this situation as I would just replace the worn out tire with the same in the past but now I am learning I can have options. I realize there are dozens of other threads about tire suggestions but I am lost in the terminology due to the lack of my knowledge, otherwise known as stupidity. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated as I want to get the bike set up for the new year.
Thanks in advance, Frank.
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Old 12-19-19, 09:52 AM
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don't think I can help w a tire suggestion, but you reminded me of another option, I've read here: rotate the rear with the front, then when the rear gets as worn as that front one, you replace them both. that's too much work for me, so I just replace a tire that's outlived it's usefulness (with the same)
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Old 12-19-19, 10:03 AM
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800 miles is pretty quick for a tire to show appreciable wear like you describe. It appears that the "Lugano" is one of there more entry levels tires. So, you probably would see better mileage if you upgrade to a higher quality tire. Although, from all the info I can find about that tire, running them at 70psi is at the bottom end of the suggested pressure for that tire. You may find increasing the pressure to 85-100psi may put the tire in a more favorable profile on the road thus increasing it's lifespan.

I'll let the other chime in regarding what tires you might like. My only suggestion is to look for a name brand tire in the $30-$45 range in the size you want and start from there.
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6 View Post
don't think I can help w a tire suggestion, but you reminded me of another option, I've read here: rotate the rear with the front, then when the rear gets as worn as that front one, you replace them both. that's too much work for me, so I just replace a tire that's outlived it's usefulness (with the same)
For bicycles, you want the front tire to be the best possible. If you run the same tires front and rear, you can move the front one to the rear, and put a new tire up front. Running a smooth tire up front due to different levels of wear will place the worst tire where you need it most, its better to leave it as is.
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Originally Posted by DorkDisk View Post
For bicycles, you want the front tire to be the best possible. If you run the same tires front and rear, you can move the front one to the rear, and put a new tire up front. Running a smooth tire up front due to different levels of wear will place the worst tire where you need it most, its better to leave it as is.
Honestly, this was kind of what I was thinking.
Thank you all for your suggestions. I run the tire pressure on the lower end of the spectrum in the hope that it will absorb some of the road vibration along with the carbon blades on the fork. With the pressure a consideration I am thinking that going to a narrower tire is moving in the wrong direction concerning my hope of running the pressure lower.
Thanks again, Frank.
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Old 12-19-19, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DorkDisk View Post
For bicycles, you want the front tire to be the best possible. If you run the same tires front and rear, you can move the front one to the rear, and put a new tire up front. Running a smooth tire up front due to different levels of wear will place the worst tire where you need it most, its better to leave it as is.
whoops! my bad, I had it backwards! thanks!
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Old 12-20-19, 03:19 AM
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I’ve had really good luck with Kenda Kwest 100 PSI tires. Make sure you get the 100 PSI model! They are cheap costing around $20 but work really great. They are not good for around freezing temperatures though.
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I’ve had really good luck with Kenda Kwest 100 PSI tires. Make sure you get the 100 PSI model! They are cheap costing around $20 but work really great. They are not good for around freezing temperatures though.
I had Kenda on a bike a couple of years ago and they were a decent tire. What size, width, are you running? Also, what is the issue with them when it goes down toward freezing? Does the sidewall become less flexible and the ride to harsh? Thanks for your response.
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My 2012 Trek 7.3 came with 32mm Bontrager Race All Weather Hard Case tires, I got around 8000 miles on a rear tire (replaced with the same) and over 22000 on the front tire. Those tires are no longer made and have been replaced by the Bontrager AW1 Hard Case. I am currently running the 32mm Bontrager AW1 Hard Case (the regular, not the lite) and have 7873 on the rear tire so it looks like they may wear about the same. In 23760 miles I have only had one flat tire. I weight 155 lbs. and don't pay a lot of attention to tire pressure. I pump them up to 90 lbs and in a few weeks when I go over the bike if they are down to 60 I pump them up again. I'm old and slow and ride for pleasure and exercise so care more about flat protection than weight and rolling resistance so don't know how they compare in that regard.

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I had Kenda on a bike a couple of years ago and they were a decent tire. What size, width, are you running? Also, what is the issue with them when it goes down toward freezing? Does the sidewall become less flexible and the ride to harsh? Thanks for your response.
Frank.
I have them on my recumbents and on one diamond frame bike. So 16”, 20”; 26”; and 700c. Most are 1.50”, I do have one bike with 1.25” but they are hard to find. Around freezing they don’t bit well and get a little slick.

I never worn out the tread or sidewall on one of these tires, in about seven to eight thousand miles the punch protection goes and I start getting a lot of flats, then is when I replace them.

Make sure you buy the 100 PSI model, for some reason they hold up much better in my experience and I do run 100 psi in them.
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Old 12-22-19, 12:44 AM
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What about other tires from Schwalbe? Schwalbe specifies rolling/puncture resistance/other features on a relative scale for each tire. For example,
Lugano: https://www.schwalbetires.com/bike_t...g_tires/lugano rolling=3/6, protection=3/6, durability=3/6
Marathon GreenGuard: https://www.schwalbetires.com/bike_t...s/marathon_420 rolling=4/6, protection=5/6, durability=5.5/6 -- very good tire for what you want
Some tests: https://www.bicyclerollingresistance...be-lugano-2015

If you are willing to risk some punctures, Panaracer Pasela and Vittoria Voyager Hyper (discontinued) are great tires. I switched to these tires from Marathons, and I really like the ride they give.
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Thank you all for the additional information. I need decent puncture resistance as there is constant building going on around here and with the nails and screws I have found I could build my own home. The Bontrager sound like a good start and I have been looking into the schwalbe but had not look in to the Marathon.
Thanks again for the help, Frank.
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Old 12-22-19, 01:45 PM
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I have a Cannondale Quick CX3 that I put 32mm Continental GrandPrix Four Season tires on. It's my commuter; I put the miles on my road bike, and the utility on my Quick. But it still got about 1200 miles last year, and the tires are holding up just fine.

GP4Season tires have a slick road-oriented tread, but use a compound that is pretty grippy even in cold or wet weather. They're not snow tires, but fine in rain. However, they also perform great in the warm months. I use them year-round.
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