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Old 04-09-20, 11:32 AM
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Norco Fraudster?

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Iím in the process of looking for my first hybrid bike. Iím looking to buy used and have come across a few options. One of the options I came across was this Norco bike. The seller said it was a vfr2 but from the pictures it seems like a vfr3. Moreover, I ran through the internet for hours trying to find this color way in any of the archives and could not find it at all. Can anyone confirm whether this bike seems legit or someoneís trying to finesse.
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It looks like you have to go back to 2011 at the latest to find the VFR graphic at the front of the top tube vs. at the rear. Norco's bike archives appear to go back through 2007, with no apparent match, so this bike is probably older than that. It doesn't seem to me to be a big mystery, though; the big "3" on the seat tube seems to answer the question. There is a large "20" decal on the top in the red maple leaf -- do you think that's the size in inches? It looks to me like a "20th anniversary" type graphic, but Norco was started in 1964, so that's probably not it.

Having said that, I don't think a '2' vs. a '3' is particularly relevant at this point, with a bike being potentially 13 years old or more. You're going to be more interested in things like proper fit, frame integrity (looking for cracks, evidence of a wreck, etc.), whether it has the components you want (like a cassette hub vs. a freewheel if that's important to you), etc. "Blue book value" really isn't a thing for bikes, especially ones potentially this old. It's really what the market value is -- how much will somebody pay for it? $100? $150? $200? With the age on this bike, it's more about condition than type of components. They're missing the all important drive side photograph, but that LOOKS like a cassette to me, meaning it's probably at least a mid-line trim bike. It also looks to be in pretty decent shape overall. That's probably a 150-200 USD bike in my local market (which I'd consider a "moderate" market). We're mostly rural, but close enough to an urban area to feel the effects of that.
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I would have to agree with most everything hokiefyd has said. For a bike that old it appears to be in very good condition. Since we don't have a drive side shot we'll just have to assume that the derailleurs are the same quality/level as the shifters. If the bike shifts and brakes well I'd put a limit on price @ $150 just because of the age. The tires look new/newer with little use. If they are the original tires you'll need to inspect for any rot. You may be buying new tires sooner than you want, but personally, it doesn't look like they're that old. Flipping the stem on that thing would give you a lot racier position too.
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It looks like you have to go back to 2011 at the latest to find the VFR graphic at the front of the top tube vs. at the rear. Norco's bike archives appear to go back through 2007, with no apparent match, so this bike is probably older than that. It doesn't seem to me to be a big mystery, though; the big "3" on the seat tube seems to answer the question. There is a large "20" decal on the top in the red maple leaf -- do you think that's the size in inches? It looks to me like a "20th anniversary" type graphic, but Norco was started in 1964, so that's probably not it.

Having said that, I don't think a '2' vs. a '3' is particularly relevant at this point, with a bike being potentially 13 years old or more. You're going to be more interested in things like proper fit, frame integrity (looking for cracks, evidence of a wreck, etc.), whether it has the components you want (like a cassette hub vs. a freewheel if that's important to you), etc. "Blue book value" really isn't a thing for bikes, especially ones potentially this old. It's really what the market value is -- how much will somebody pay for it? $100? $150? $200? With the age on this bike, it's more about condition than type of components. They're missing the all important drive side photograph, but that LOOKS like a cassette to me, meaning it's probably at least a mid-line trim bike. It also looks to be in pretty decent shape overall. That's probably a 150-200 USD bike in my local market (which I'd consider a "moderate" market). We're mostly rural, but close enough to an urban area to feel the effects of that.
Thank you so much for your response and thorough investigation lol. I took a similar approach but only went back to 2016. I also looked for a Canadian edition or a 20th anniversary edition for the crest couldnít find it. Iím actually looking to buy a bike in the $300-$500 range and so I looked up his ad which said it was bought in 2018, claimed to be brand new when he bought it used lol. Iím really looking for a used 2018 ish hybrid bike to start. Looking at maybe a Norco or Trek probably. And thereís a GT Vantara offered too
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I'm pretty sure that is not a 2018 model, or anything close to it. The integrated brake/shift levers are many generations old by now...Shimano haven't made that style for some time (with the little circular window for the gear indicator). The brake cable noodles also have some serious rust. It definitely looks like something 15 years old.
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It's not that old. The bars are wide and that type of seatpost was OEM only relatively recently.

Here, I found it. 2010
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