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Old 05-23-20, 11:39 AM
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This may be a useless post but wondering if anyone has any input. I already have several bicycles but not completely satisfied because of the stupid pot holes in this city (no joke).

I'm trying to decide between the following:

Norco Indie 2 27.5x2" tires, 46/30 crankset, Shimano SL-M315 shifters

Brodie Tesla 27.5x2.2" tires, 46/30 crankset, Shimano SL-M315 shifters

Breezer Midtown 1.5 27.5x2.4" tires, 48/38/28 crankset, Shimano Altus shifters (likely same as above)

They all look pretty sweet but the Midtown Breezer 1.5 has a 470mm chainstay and 48/38/28 crankset which means I'd have to deal with a triple front derailleur. One plus for the Norco Indie 2 is Planet Bike sells a 27.5 fender which takes 1.9" tires which means they'll likely accommodate 2" tires. For the Breezer Midtown 1.5, there are SKS Bluemels 75U fenders although those look a bit wide. For the Brodie Tesla, I'm not sure which fender might be more compatible.

By the way, I know I made a poll for 3" tires. But I saw a Del Sol electric bike with 2.5" tires and they looked adequate to me. Although I still don't understand why they don't make direct-mount brakes for larger tires.
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They all look pretty sweet but the Midtown Breezer 1.5 has a 470mm chainstay and 48/38/28 crankset which means I'd have to deal with a triple front derailleur.
Triples can work very well. Most of my bikes have a triple crank, and I've never had issues with being able to get them adjusted. I prefer the wider range they offer. If I was going to move away from a 3x crank, I'd go straight to a 1x. A double doesn't offer me any benefit over a triple. I do have one 1x bike -- an old Peugeot that I made into a 1x from a road double.

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Although I still don't understand why they don't make direct-mount brakes for larger tires.
I think the short answer is there's no market for it. The tested and proven linear pull brake (often called "V brake") works well, is inexpensive, and uses long-pull brake levers, just like mechanical discs. I suspect (though don't know for sure) direct-mount brakes might use short-pull brake levers, which are not common for flat bar bikes anymore, and it'd be another part combination the factory would have to stock.
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Old 05-23-20, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by hybridbkrdr View Post
This may be a useless post but wondering if anyone has any input. I already have several bicycles but not completely satisfied because of the stupid pot holes in this city (no joke).

I'm trying to decide between the following:

Norco Indie 2 27.5x2" tires, 46/30 crankset, Shimano SL-M315 shifters

Brodie Tesla 27.5x2.2" tires, 46/30 crankset, Shimano SL-M315 shifters

Breezer Midtown 1.5 27.5x2.4" tires, 48/38/28 crankset, Shimano Altus shifters (likely same as above)

They all look pretty sweet but the Midtown Breezer 1.5 has a 470mm chainstay and 48/38/28 crankset which means I'd have to deal with a triple front derailleur. One plus for the Norco Indie 2 is Planet Bike sells a 27.5 fender which takes 1.9" tires which means they'll likely accommodate 2" tires. For the Breezer Midtown 1.5, there are SKS Bluemels 75U fenders although those look a bit wide. For the Brodie Tesla, I'm not sure which fender might be more compatible.
Brodie, because I always wanted one and I already have a Breezer and a Norco. Plus, its blue and has a steel fork, which should eat more road vibrations than Al. The frame has the classic 90s Canadian MTB profile - dropped and sloping top tube, extended seat tube, and forward facing clamp cutout.

Joe Breeze does make nice bikes that ride great though, aside from cliche reviews this is one brand that has a reputation for nice riding bikes and optimizing frames.

There is nothing wrong with triples and 3x8 is proven, but 30x46 is a more modern setup that I frankly really like. I don't know if 8 in the back is enough for that double to shine though. For road buzz, I find Ti or crabon bars to help considerably

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Although I still don't understand why they don't make direct-mount brakes for larger tires.
Vees do a better job without the drawbacks.
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"not completely satisfied because of the stupid pot holes in this city.
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I don't see suspension forks on any of those bikes. You're situation is exactly what they are made for. My ride also consists of some bad roads and mup's. My next bike, Likely this Giant Roam 2 Disc has 42mm tires and suspension forks.


https://www.giant-bicycles.com/ca/roam-2-disc

If Giant bikes aren't available, I'd get something similar from another reputable manufacturer.
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Old 05-24-20, 05:02 PM
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I don't see suspension forks on any of those bikes. You're situation is exactly what they are made for. My ride also consists of some bad roads and mup's. My next bike, Likely this Giant Roam 2 Disc has 42mm tires and suspension forks.


https://www.giant-bicycles.com/ca/roam-2-disc

If Giant bikes aren't available, I'd get something similar from another reputable manufacturer.
Do you want to know the peculiar reason some bikes were taken off my list? Look at the way the fork is made on the Giant Escape. If I can't install an Atran Granny front rack on it, I may forget about it. There needs to be a hole somewhere close to the axle of the front wheel.
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I bought a 2019 Norco Indie3 from a pawn shop cheap. It was listed as "used" but other than puddle splashes it was like new.
I wasn't thrilled about the colour (slate blue) but it has really grown on me.

The Indie3 has a steel fork so will probably take bumps a little different than the Indie2. However, if you adjust with the tire pressure on the 700c45c tires you can dial in a nice compromise between comfort and speed.

It looks like the 2020 models have a different frame confg(?) and the 3 is gone from the line up.
I'm not familiar with the other bikes in your list but I'm very happy with the Norco...
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Originally Posted by hybridbkrdr View Post
Do you want to know the peculiar reason some bikes were taken off my list? Look at the way the fork is made on the Giant Escape. If I can't install an Atran Granny front rack on it, I may forget about it. There needs to be a hole somewhere close to the axle of the front wheel.
The suspension forks on Giant's Roam 2 (see link in my previous post) are compatible with front and rear racks. Just thought you should know.
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