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Old 08-27-10, 03:48 PM
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not to be pedantic or anything, but thats not a power slide, thats a skid-stop. a power slide is when you spin the drive wheel with excess power and slide around a turn but keep moving. damn hard on 2 wheels unless your name is Valentino Rossi and your two wheels have a motoGP engine between them.
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not to be pedantic or anything, but thats not a power slide, thats a skid-stop. a power slide is when you spin the drive wheel with excess power and slide around a turn but keep moving. damn hard on 2 wheels unless your name is Valentino Rossi and your two wheels have a motoGP engine between them.
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Pierce, what kind of bike is that? What size wheels are those? I like it a lot.
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Pierce, what kind of bike is that? What size wheels are those? I like it a lot.
The frame and wheels were from a late 90s Diamondback Parkway hybrid, the rest was mix-n-match bitsa dis, bitsa dat. Its a -very- small frame, like 15" at the seat bolt, I'd built it up to be a city-cruiser for myself, then decided it was just too small to work for me.

my build looked like this,



(note the flat bars, compact road double crankset, extra long seat post which weren't on that other picture)

the tires are Michelin City 700x40, which were actually 42-622 per the mold, and were way over-sized compared with the 700x38's I ended up using on the replacement frame (since the Michelin's barely fit on the replacement). I went ahead and sold Lil' Red awhile back, that 2nd pic from my prior post was taken specifically for the CL ad

my replacement bike (using the same crankset and flat bars) currently looks like...

but I'm not done... I think I'll eventually change the stem, and i want to give it the same red paint treatment, maybe even a powdercoat since a local shop will do a sandblast-n-powdercoat for $100.
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Originally Posted by xoxoxoxoLive
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No he's wrong. Power slide means different things depending on the sport you are talking about. For example, a power slide on rollerblades.

Applying terms from motorsport to bicycling is always in poor taste and often wrong. Why degrade our sport with references to filthy polluters? Not cool, Pierce!
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2010 Giant Cypress

I couldnt resist the color. Also the ride! The ride is better, the fit and finish also better than my Trek 7100 was!
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This is my newest ride.
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Old 08-28-10, 02:07 AM
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Nice Looking bike..

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2010 Giant Cypress

I couldnt resist the color. Also the ride! The ride is better, the fit and finish also better than my Trek 7100 was!
Keep Riding !
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Originally Posted by pierce
indeed. derailleur gearing was invented nearly 100 years ago, and fixed gears were relegated to tricyles, unicycles, and velodrome track racing.

and now its made a comeback, mostly among the cafe poseurs.

of course, I live where its hilly. I have absolutely no desire to be stuck in one gear.
Fixed gear bicycles were still widely sold into the early fifties as it was only then that derailleur gears really became accepted and went mainstream... the geared option for most was to have an internally geared hub.

The modern derailleur was invented by Suntour in 1964... their design is what all current derailleurs still use.
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suntour's design was just a refinement on what campagnolo and others had been doing for at least 10 years earlier.
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Originally Posted by qmsdc15
No he's wrong. Power slide means different things depending on the sport you are talking about. For example, a power slide on rollerblades.

Applying terms from motorsport to bicycling is always in poor taste and often wrong. Why degrade our sport with references to filthy polluters? Not cool, Pierce!
True! They aren't just filthy polluters though, they are also weak
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world class motorcycle racers like Rossi aren't exactly weak, its an extremely rigorous sport, requires both physical and mental training.

and, I dunno, but to me, "Power Slide" implies the application of power, and nothing you could do on roller-blades or skateboards or whatever comes close. sliding a bicycle under power is pretty darn hard, never mind foolish.
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Originally Posted by pierce
world class motorcycle racers like Rossi aren't exactly weak, its an extremely rigorous sport, requires both physical and mental training.

and, I dunno, but to me, "Power Slide" implies the application of power, and nothing you could do on roller-blades or skateboards or whatever comes close. sliding a bicycle under power is pretty darn hard, never mind foolish.
Nothing I can do on Rollerblades comes close to the technique known as power slide.

I guess my point was the term has at least one meaning that differs from the meaning you were aware of. Dissing motorsport was just the gravy.

I learned a meaning of power slide from your post. You don't need to know what it means in Rollerblading but you can learn from me that it is different and the phrase has more than one definition.

I think when applied to bicycling, power slide may have a different meaning as well, but of course the motorsport definition will always be the best and most important one!
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Originally Posted by pierce
suntour's design was just a refinement on what campagnolo and others had been doing for at least 10 years earlier.
Anyone who rides a modern bicycle with derailleur gears owes a lot to Suntour.

Derailleur systems have been around for a long time but the present era of modern derailleur gears started in the 50's with Campagnolo's Gran Sport which came of age in 1953 and Suntour perfected it and this rendered other designs as being obsolete.

They killed many of the European makers as their antiquated designs could not compete.

My partner used to race on Bobet gears in the early 50's... this was a chain stay mounted derailleur that ran a 3-4 speed block but was not something average people used on their bikes.

I also have run pull chain derailleurs from the 40's and 50's and these were still used into the early 60's and Huret was famous for taking flat plates of steel and making rather functional derailleurs.
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I still have my campy nuevo record equipped road bike that I bought in the mid 70s. I don't think Suntour really got recognized until the later 70s, early 80s. I've got an early 80s Suntour Mountech that needs new idler pulleys (the teeth are completely worn off the upper one) and sadly are unobtanium, otherwise that derailleur would still be working perfectly. by the mid 80s, Suntour's patents had run out, and Shimano just took over the market by sheer bulk force.

btw, my homebrew hybrid mashup has Suntour friction thumb shifters
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Here is my new 2009 Jamis Coda Elite. I have about 25 miles on it, and have about got it "right." Lots of things to move around on these sucka's!!



Here is the Allay Racing Sport 2.1 Saddle It is getting right comfy about about 110 miles on it (some pretty painful).


Finally, the Ergon GR2 grips...I needed to move the shifters and brakes in about 1/2 inch to mount. Smooth as silk.
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Just did not want to argue with you !

Originally Posted by pierce
world class motorcycle racers like Rossi aren't exactly weak, its an extremely rigorous sport, requires both physical and mental training.

and, I dunno, but to me, "Power Slide" implies the application of power, and nothing you could do on roller-blades or skateboards or whatever comes close. sliding a bicycle under power is pretty darn hard, never mind foolish.
I also raced motocross for years when I was young, even to the level of a sponsorship
from Yamaha. Had friends who raced BMX, and since I was 10 years old, now 47, have always
referred to stopping a bike in that manner as a power slide, ( never heard of a skid stop ), and if you think that is dangerous, you would not want to go riding with me... I was not even
going to post the video, because thats kids play. My next video was going to be a 6' drop,
today, ( for 65er ) he knows why, found the ideal spot off road. On a 200.00 Hybrid, but the wife ruined that with garage sale's..Maybe Tomorrow.. Richard
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Originally Posted by xoxoxoxoLive
have always referred to stopping a bike in that manner as a power slide, ( never heard of a skid stop ),

yeah, power slide sounds so much sexier. but, what you're really doing is skidding to a stop.

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Here is my new 2009 Jamis Coda Elite. I have about 25 miles on it, and have about got it "right." Lots of things to move around on these sucka's!!
Nice bike!
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Originally Posted by jcinnb

I note you have that saddle pushed all the way back. If you're on the heavy side, do be warned, its quite possible to bend the saddle frame bars if you hit a bump a little hard, also this puts quite an offset load on that telescoping seat post you seem to have.
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Thanks. I was a little worried about that. And I am way on the heavy side.

I have moved it back more toward the middle after taking some more measurements with the fishing line and weight at the knee. I appreciate your comment.
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most seatposts have an offset backwards of an inch or so built into the clamp.

like,

a classic used on many good japanese bikes in the 80s
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Originally Posted by pierce
yeah, power slide sounds so much sexier. but, what you're really doing is skidding to a stop.

Forgive and forget, nice looking bike by the way ! Richard
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A tandem trailerbike for kids and they can both actually pedal! cool
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