You're quoting yourself.

To make a point -

I agree with me.

This thread has degenerated into verbal nonsense!

The thread was nonsence to begin with

I'm sorry you don't appreciate my presentation (as always tongue in cheek) but I believe my argument is sound.

Apologies to Morgan, I realize that your were agreeing with something in the original post and not it's central premise. I don't think we really disagree.

Thanks Timber. You would go faster on a tri bike, you know. Your set up looks pretty aero though. Slow road bike? Depends on who's riding it I guess. :D

A triathlete allowed me to draft for a couple miles Sunday (and thanked me for first asking if it was OK). I had a hard time staying in his wind shadow, but we were flying! Fun. I need to put the fast bar ends on my fast hybrid. The fancy carbon ones on there now look great and match the bike, but the longhorns would make it a lot faster. I don't think I'd stretch out on them while drafting on a busy bike trail though. Need hands close to brakes. We yielded and proceeded safely, but opened it up when the trail was open. It's very straight at points, a rail trail, with great lines of sight down the trail.

This post is worthless, until you define your terms.

To me a hybrid is a term that could cover a wide range of bikes, but I think there are sub-categories of hybrid:

Performance Hybrid: Trek FX, Specialized Sirrus
Light Trail Hybrid: Specialized Crosstrail, Gary Fisher Kaitai
Comfort Hybrid: Trek 7000, Giant Cypress

I think they are all hybrids, but they all have their own distinct category and purpose.

No Worries "Q" :) And yes, I think we are on same page here.

For those that demanded my definition, I did post it “I think it’s a slow road bike”and also asked “where can FX go that a road bike can’t?”

In the true sense of word and definition, I guess FX is a hybrid of sort.

FX being Example 1 on the attached picture.

My definition of hybrid being Example 2

After all said and done, I still think FX is slow, comfortable road bike.

For those that posted the FX can be converted into something else with fatter knobby tires, I seriously don’t think you would suggest that and send your loves one’s on a lightly muddy, with light gravel and rooted trails without health and life insurance. Fork will not allow you to add too wide of tires.

Do I think FX is a hybrid, no. Is it a versatile bike, no. Would I buy FX? I bought, tested and sold a used FX. Would I buy and or recommend the FX, yes, but not as hybrid.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ke/zcolor2.jpg

I think we have had this discussion before.

What tires did you use before you decided your bike couldn't go well off road?

Maybe it's you and not your bike that lacked the capability.

Cyclocross bikes are designed specifically for off-road use, yet they have drop bars, generally steeper seat and head tube angles than an FX bike and probably don't allow wider tires than an FX.

I believe the riders who managed to get this hybrid forum established were FX riders. If any bike is a hybrid, Trek FX certainly is.

Your bike was a touring bike. Get me banned again if you must, but your bike fit squarely in the touring bike category and I'm sure you knew it then and you still know it now.

I like this answer...can we agree they are all bikes?

perhaps...lots of gray areas

But you're into the blues! :D

I would still have considered Sixty Fiver's previous incantation of his Trek a hybrid. It was defiantly tour worthy, but you could still see it's hybrid roots. Now with my 750 build I am not so sure I would still be inclined to call it a hybrid if you knit picked.

Yes, I agree, Jessica Alba is hot and I enjoyed “into the blue” (suba diver here)

Not work safe
http://jsrpages.co.uk/scans2/alba/J_...toTheBlue3.jpg

She had rings on her fingers and
bells on her shoes,
And I knew without askin' she was
into the blues...

I ain't often right
but I've never been wrong
It seldom turns out the way
it does in the song
Once in a while
you get shown the light
in the strangest of places
if you look at it right.

~Garcia/Hunter

not blood pressure safe :innocent:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/netdict/stubborn

Just saw your picture of DC Chinatown, I'm not going to see you at the Indian Head 100 am I?

Lets make this perfectly clear... I did not get you banned and you know this... you got yourself banned by adding personal insults to what could have been polite disagreement and it was not me that took offense as I have a much thicker skin than that.

Speak lies about me and I will get pissed off.

You need to take some personal responsibility for this and stop trying to blame other people for your actions and the consequences and try not to flip out over the "what is a hybrid" debate.

I hope we are done with this.

Not if I see you first.

There you go again. :D

That is a gorgeous bike... if it was not for the decals that say Multitrack one would think they were looking at a vintage Trek touring bike as it shares so many of those early Trek features and was originally equipped with cantis.

They are a very desirable bike.

To everyone else, "definition" doesn't mean what you think it means.

It's now clear that you're simply trolling. G'bye!