How often do you get flats ?
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How often do you get flats ?
When I was riding my Motobecane as a Hybrid, ( with large mountain bike tires ), I think that
in 2 years never had a flat. Now that I have switched to 700 x 38c cheap Kendra tires, with
standard tubes from REI. I'm getting flats all the time. Maybe go 3 months no flats, then
(boom) 3 in one week, 2 on the back and one on the front. This makes 6 flats total since
changing tire size and pressure, run 85 PSI in them, I was doing a lot of trail riding for
the most part. But just over the last few weeks have been staying on the road working
on my speed and distance. And been getting the flats, there not pinch flats, just small
holes, like thorn punctures. I was using the same tires trail riding with no problems,
but when I switched to the road, 3 flats this week. ( just bad luck), I always carry a
new spare with me, then patch the flat tire and put it aside. Do you guys ride on patched
tires, or always replace with new ones. I love the performance that the 700 gives over
the 26 inch Mountain Bike style tires, hands down, even on medium trails, much faster.
I guess that I'm asking a 2 part question, do the smaller high PSI tires prone to more
flats, and do you ride on patched tubes. Now my back up is a patched tube...I'm new
to the narrow higher PSI tires, just wondering if this is normal. Richard
in 2 years never had a flat. Now that I have switched to 700 x 38c cheap Kendra tires, with
standard tubes from REI. I'm getting flats all the time. Maybe go 3 months no flats, then
(boom) 3 in one week, 2 on the back and one on the front. This makes 6 flats total since
changing tire size and pressure, run 85 PSI in them, I was doing a lot of trail riding for
the most part. But just over the last few weeks have been staying on the road working
on my speed and distance. And been getting the flats, there not pinch flats, just small
holes, like thorn punctures. I was using the same tires trail riding with no problems,
but when I switched to the road, 3 flats this week. ( just bad luck), I always carry a
new spare with me, then patch the flat tire and put it aside. Do you guys ride on patched
tires, or always replace with new ones. I love the performance that the 700 gives over
the 26 inch Mountain Bike style tires, hands down, even on medium trails, much faster.
I guess that I'm asking a 2 part question, do the smaller high PSI tires prone to more
flats, and do you ride on patched tubes. Now my back up is a patched tube...I'm new
to the narrow higher PSI tires, just wondering if this is normal. Richard
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Don't really know if they are more prone. I have had more flats on MTB tires than 25-28C tires but it may all come down to chance. Riding on patched tubes is not a problem. If patched properly the patched section is actually stronger than the rest of the tube, or so I have been told. At any rate I have never had a patch fail. That being said I would probably limit patches to a total of two on any one tube. No particualr reason other than it fits within my own "comfort zone" vis a vis riding jury rigged equipment of sorts.
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last few weeks, only road riding and have had 3. I've patched them and they hold, but
still put new ones back on, now my spare is a patched tube..and I have 2 more back ups..LOL
Must just be bad luck..They say things come in 3's....Richard
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Must be a Kenda thing... I had some re-badged Kendas on my Schwinn (re-badged because they said "Schwinn" on the side in raised, white lettering) and I too suffered numerous flats. I've had no flats since I switched to Michelin Pilot City tires. Last winter I used Schwalbe Marathon Winter tires and had not flats with them, either. I considered buying Marathons for my fair-weather tires based on my experience with the Winters, but the Pilot Citys were half the cost and I liked their slick profile better. No regrets to date.
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Must be a Kenda thing... I had some re-badged Kendas on my Schwinn (re-badged because they said "Schwinn" on the side in raised, white lettering) and I too suffered numerous flats. I've had no flats since I switched to Michelin Pilot City tires. Last winter I used Schwalbe Marathon Winter tires and had not flats with them, either. I considered buying Marathons for my fair-weather tires based on my experience with the Winters, but the Pilot Citys were half the cost and I liked their slick profile better. No regrets to date.
I walk by the bike now I'm feeling the tires...LOL Richard
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Flats happen. Usually from a tiny pieces of glass. Broken glass is common on paved road, rare on dirt trails, if you get my drift. When you repair your tube, find the piece of glass and remove it from the tire casing or else it will cause another flat.
A properly patched tube will hold air better than a new tube. I retire a tube after it has seven patches, just because patches add weight.
I use kevlar belted tires on my hybrids.
A properly patched tube will hold air better than a new tube. I retire a tube after it has seven patches, just because patches add weight.
I use kevlar belted tires on my hybrids.
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Flats happen. Usually from a tiny pieces of glass. Broken glass is common on paved road, rare on dirt trails, if you get my drift. When you repair your tube, find the piece of glass and remove it from the tire casing or else it will cause another flat.
A properly patched tube will hold air better than a new tube. I retire a tube after it has seven patches, just because patches add weight.
I use kevlar belted tires on my hybrids.
A properly patched tube will hold air better than a new tube. I retire a tube after it has seven patches, just because patches add weight.
I use kevlar belted tires on my hybrids.
Dont' skimp on your patch kit - buy a decent one with feathered edges.
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it's time to get schwalbes (or your choice of flat-resistant tire)
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A lot of riders use patched tubes.
Check out my video at the bottom,
I'm riding a rear tube with 2 patches
and a front tube with 4 patches.
700 X 25 tires.
Check out my video at the bottom,
I'm riding a rear tube with 2 patches
and a front tube with 4 patches.
700 X 25 tires.
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Typically a hybrid tire that is 700x38 to 700x42 will get fewer flats than a road bike tire. The rubber casings are significantly thicker on the larger tires. And several hybrids come with puncture-resistant tires, as most buyers aren't concerned with the weight of the tire, like a road bike rider typically is.
But if you ride in an area with a lot of sharp objects, you're going to get flats unless you have one of the heavily armored tires.
In the past 3 years, my Trek hybrid with 700x38 tires have gotten a total of one flat. And that happened when I rode through broken glass.
There certainly are several degrees of puncture resistance. A cheap tire will have only the rubber casing. Better tires will have anti-puncture belts under the tread. It may be a light belt or very heavy. The most puncture resistant tires tend to weigh a lot & cost a lot.
But if you ride in an area with a lot of sharp objects, you're going to get flats unless you have one of the heavily armored tires.
In the past 3 years, my Trek hybrid with 700x38 tires have gotten a total of one flat. And that happened when I rode through broken glass.
There certainly are several degrees of puncture resistance. A cheap tire will have only the rubber casing. Better tires will have anti-puncture belts under the tread. It may be a light belt or very heavy. The most puncture resistant tires tend to weigh a lot & cost a lot.
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IMO, cheap tires aren't very flat resistant. I run Forte 700x35 which flat a lot. The bike lanes here are where all the debris accumulates and they only seem sweep them every 8 weeks Luck plays a big roll too, I've gone months without them and then bam 2-3 flats in 100 miles.
I'm about 2 flats away from ordering some Armadillos or Marathon Supremes.
I'm about 2 flats away from ordering some Armadillos or Marathon Supremes.
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IMO, cheap tires aren't very flat resistant. I run Forte 700x35 which flat a lot. The bike lanes here are where all the debris accumulates and they only seem sweep them every 8 weeks Luck plays a big roll too, I've gone months without them and then bam 2-3 flats in 100 miles.
I'm about 2 flats away from ordering some Armadillos or Marathon Supremes.
I'm about 2 flats away from ordering some Armadillos or Marathon Supremes.
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I'm using cheap Kenda's as well, but I've only had 1 flat in over a year. After the fateful ride, out of the 200 goat heads I pulled out, only 1 managed to cause a puncture. Might be my amazing tubes though, Avenir thorn resistant. I'm thinking it's more their doing than the tire. When my tires go, I'm definitely going to get Schwalbes though. I've heard amazing things about them.
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IMO, cheap tires aren't very flat resistant. I run Forte 700x35 which flat a lot. The bike lanes here are where all the debris accumulates and they only seem sweep them every 8 weeks Luck plays a big roll too, I've gone months without them and then bam 2-3 flats in 100 miles.
I'm about 2 flats away from ordering some Armadillos or Marathon Supremes.
I'm about 2 flats away from ordering some Armadillos or Marathon Supremes.
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What are these flats you speak of??
Seriously, though I ride 14 miles a day minimum, I roll with Schwalbe Marathon Plus w/Mr. Tuffy liners. I can't remember the last time I had a flat.
Seriously, though I ride 14 miles a day minimum, I roll with Schwalbe Marathon Plus w/Mr. Tuffy liners. I can't remember the last time I had a flat.
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Also - isn't anyone using a tube sealant like Dr Slime or Sludge?
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No, I've never use sealant. Doesn't that add a lot of weight in the worst place?
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Oh - sometimes I cycle on the road inbetween rides, but that doesn't really count.
No, I've never use sealant. Doesn't that add a lot of weight in the worst place?
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Glad you're feeling better. Just kidding about the miles. You'll get there.
Thanks for the tip about the tires. I know you have recommended them before. I'm going to try them next time I buy tires.
Thanks for the tip about the tires. I know you have recommended them before. I'm going to try them next time I buy tires.
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Or you could try Duremes if you want something a bit tougher. A poster who rides gravel and limestone tours got his speed up an amazingly 10% by switching them. (They're Supremes with a little extra grip.)
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I had a big nail go though my tire, get bent, put four holes in the tube and came out the tire again. I look at my tire, see the head of a nail going in and the sharp end coming out. What are you going to do? Schwalbe, yeah sure... Stuff happens...