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Old 09-29-10, 09:33 AM
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700 x 28 vs 700 x 32 vs 700 x 35

I have a Jamis Coda Elite. Currently riding 700 x 28 Continental Ultra Gatorskins. They're fine for on the road but a bit on the narrow side for packed limestone pea gravel rail trails. Will 32's be enough bigger to make that transition, or should I go to 35's? Looking at Panaracers, the aramid belted version. Suggestions for others to look at as well?
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Originally Posted by Terrierman View Post
I have a Jamis Coda Elite. Currently riding 700 x 28 Continental Ultra Gatorskins. They're fine for on the road but a bit on the narrow side for packed limestone pea gravel rail trails. Will 32's be enough bigger to make that transition, or should I go to 35's? Looking at Panaracers, the aramid belted version. Suggestions for others to look at as well?
I just feel safer on the wider tires when getting off road, but the 32c would probably be fine...and also, how
much time you would spend on that trail, if a lot go with the 35c...Richard
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32s are my favs. I'd suggest Conti Top Contacts (kevlar bead). Yeah, they are not cheap, but I don't skimp on my rubber (and it's paid off...I have never gotten a bike pregnant ).
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I'm fine on packed limestone trails with 32's but then I was with 28's also. I suspect you would need to go with 35/38 to detect much difference from what you have unless you feel that the 28's are quite close to wide enough. My next tires will almost certainly be Vittoria Randonneur Hypers but since they are my next tire I can't say anything about them from experience. They look great on paper and Vittoria is definitely the road less traveled here on BF.

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Originally Posted by khutch View Post
Vittoria is definitely the road less traveled here on BF.
Not really. Vittoria is probably among the top five brands used by people who post here, right up there with Schwalbe, Continental, Panaracer and Michelin.
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[QUOTE=khutch;11542300]I'm fine on packed limestone trails with 32's but then I was with 28's also. I suspect you would need to go with 35/38 to detect much difference from what you have unless you feel that the 28's are quite close to wide enough. My next tires will almost certainly be Vittoria Randonneur Hypers but since they are my next tire I can't say anything about them from experience. They look great on paper and Vittoria is definitely the road less traveled here on BF.

So far I've found 28s ok on mixed surfaces as well -- time will tell. Re. Vittoria -- I have those, but in 26x1.5 (folding) on my roadified mtb -- very, very good tire (well, on the evidence of one season). Have always used Panaracer Pasela TGs up to this year; switched simply because I needed a new set and the folding versions (I dislike wire-bead tires) were unavailable at the time.
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Originally Posted by chipcom View Post
Not really. Vittoria is probably among the top five brands used by people who post here, right up there with Schwalbe, Continental, Panaracer and Michelin.
Of course it is going to depend on where you hang out here. I don't see Vittoria or Michelin mentioned terribly often and I would say that Schwalbe, Continental, Panaracer, and Bontrager are the top four. There may be forums where the mix is quite different, I just don't hang out on them. Not that it matters much, Vittoria makes good tires whether they are popular here or not.

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One of the Vittorias that came stock on my Marin failed catastrophically on the first day I used the bike. The other tire self destructed a couple weeks later.
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I have the Schwalbe land cruiser hs 307 on my hybrid right now in 35. I ran into a road that had fresh graveling (1inch thick with just light oil under) and they did fine. I'd recommend them for a path/pavement tire. They are relatively cheap and if you go over the 65 psi to 80 psi they are pretty quick on the road too.

I just ordered some continental sport contact 700x28 and Michelin city 700x32's to try too. If you send me a pm in another week or two I can let you know how the first ones I put on do for road use.
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I absolutely love my Schwalbe Marathon Supremes. A 35 on the front for faster and more precise steering, and a 40 on the back for more comfort and load capacity.
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I have been asking the same question recently about what tire would be best for the type of riding I do. I'm about 80% paved city and country roads and 20% well packed gravel roads and paths. Being 67 years old, a degree of comfort was also a consideration.
I hit up 3 well repected bike shops in my area and put the question to as many folks as I could. The favorite by far was the 700x32 tire size. I don't have direct experience with this size but will give it a try in the future.
When I asked my questions in these bike shops and added that comfort was an important aspect for me, I was thinking they would be steering me to a wider tire than a 32 but to most of the folks I talked to a 32 was a nice compromise to all the criteria I was interested in.
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I run 35's on my Coda Sport (that actually measure 33mm) and at 70f/80r PSI they are super comfortable and work fine for light off road duty.

I have Gatorskin 28's on my road bike and they run narrow (about 26.5mm) which is way too narrow for anything but pavement IMO.
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Just as a personal point of information - I find 35s to ride harsh on the rear of my Crosstrail, while having no negative effect on comfort on the front. I also find 40 on the rear much more comfortable, no harshness, and no loss of "speed" or handling back there. On the other hand, the 35s are much more precise, and quicker handling on the front, with no loss of comfort.

I wouldn't be afraid to try 32s on the front, but I ain't giving up my 40s on the rear..................

I run my tires at 92 PSI, because that's where they roll the best (Yes, I know they are rated to 85PSI.) My Schwalbe Marathon Supremes run almost exactly their stated width, on an 18mm wide (internal) rim.
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For general riding, I find that 28 are best for good roads, 32 are best for bad roads and light trails, OR for loaded use on good roads. 38+ are good for loaded use on bad roads/trails.
Ive done a lot of riding with full loads, rough trails using 32mm. It can be done but a wider tyre is preferable for better shock absorbancy, grip and control.
32 are my usual 700c tyres for general purpose riding.
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Thanks for all the replies. I think I will try a set of 32's. Now to compare brands and prices.
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..Didn't anyone tell the poor guy that the size of tyre he should use for riding gravel depends on his weight???
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I see you are from SWMO. My Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 32's have done fine for 3 end-to-end trips on the Katy. They are still going strong.
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Also be aware that "tyre size" is marketing term rather than a precise measurement. Many manufacturers make them thinner than you expect so they can boast about the low weight. Some are wider than you expect due to extra puncture protection.
28mm seems to be a particularly flexible notion.
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Also be aware that "tyre size" is marketing term rather than a precise measurement. Many manufacturers make them thinner than you expect so they can boast about the low weight. Some are wider than you expect due to extra puncture protection.
28mm seems to be a particularly flexible notion.
Schwalbe tires run REALLY REALY REALLY close to their stated size......... usually exact or VERY close......
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Schwalbe tires run REALLY REALY REALLY close to their stated size......... usually exact or VERY close......
ORLY?

Is that why my 26"x1.5" Schwalbe Marathons measure 1.62"? (That's a little over three millimeters difference)

The only tire in this household that measure anywhere close to the stated size are the 700x38 Specialized Nimbus tires on my girl's bike. Those measure 38.6mm.

With anything, tire width is going to depend largely on numerous factors. One big one being width of the rim they are put on.
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I'm sure some bearing goes to rim size, but on my 18mm wide (internal) rims, my 700X35 and 40 Supremes measure exactly, at 92 PSI. (Which I also stated in one of my previous posts in this string.)
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So, because you've got two tires of the same model that measure correctly, your assumption is that all tires from that brand would match exactly the specified dimensions?

If anything, I'd say the Schwalbes with significant flat protection would measure wider than the stated width.
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Ive run 23's, 28's and 32's on the towpaths here... 32's are by far the most comfortable. I've ridden over 20mph on the path with them and they feel fine.
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i run michelin pilot city 700x32 . I was rolling on the 35's and when it came time for new rubber i thinned it up a little. I noticed some stating that they run top contacts. I've been thinking of trying them next but currently looking for a new bike.
By the way my michelling are great . I've had 2 flats small machine screw in front and commercial type staple punctured the rear the very next day .
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700 x 32 Top Contacts should arrive today.
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