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Old 02-27-11, 10:52 AM
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Hybrids & sportives?

Since there┤s frequently comparisons between hybrids and roadies in this subforum, how many do sportives on your hybrids? Here in Sweden its quite common with hybrids on sportives/amateur races. I┤ve done a couple myself, engaging just as much into the competetive dimension as I do with my road bikes. Anyone else? Planning to?
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I must be a true hybrid rider - I don't know what a 'sportive' is!
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Originally Posted by NVanHiker View Post
I must be a true hybrid rider - I don't know what a 'sportive' is!
A lot of riders on here lean towards the fast style light weight road bike Hybrids, ( so I think he means racing one ),
and I am just as curios as to how many on here are like me, who ride the more off road style Hybrids. I do my
share of road riding, but then go rough trail riding on the same ride, and could turn into a hiking trip to. LOL
I live in the middle of no where land, so I have miles of rural roads, and so many pipe line, fire roads, logging roads,
four wheeler trails, power lines, some of the best off roading you can find, but most are at least 10 mile round trip
minimum to get to them, so I still want to roll somewhat fast on the road, but need a bike that can handle XC
riding, plus a like to ride into town and shop, ( commuting for me ), I had a hard time finding just the right bike
for that.


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Originally Posted by NVanHiker View Post
I must be a true hybrid rider - I don't know what a 'sportive' is!
'Sportive', 'sportif', 'gran fondo' ... several names for the same thing. Not to be confused with audax/randoneuring.
Organized, theoretically non-competitive but timed one-day mass-start road rides over a set course/distance, usually roughly the length of a typical pro tour stage or one-day race. Will often have one or two shorter course options built-in for those who don't want to do the whole distance.
Very, very popular in Europe/UK, growing in popularity in NA. The idea is to have the experience of riding under pro-race kinds of conditions, but without the competitive pressure (or speeds). In practice, seems that there's usually a core group of riders who will immediately go off the front and race.
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Originally Posted by badger1 View Post
'Sportive', 'sportif', 'gran fondo' ... several names for the same thing. Not to be confused with audax/randoneuring.
Organized, theoretically non-competitive but timed one-day mass-start road rides over a set course/distance, usually roughly the length of a typical pro tour stage or one-day race. Will often have one or two shorter course options built-in for those who don't want to do the whole distance.
Very, very popular in Europe/UK, growing in popularity in NA. The idea is to have the experience of riding under pro-race kinds of conditions, but without the competitive pressure (or speeds). In practice, seems that there's usually a core group of riders who will immediately go off the front and race.
I'm sure your right, but even if your not, sure sounded darn good ! LOL, I still want at least two others to concur with you before I'm 100 percent convinced ! Richard
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Originally Posted by badger1 View Post
Organized, theoretically non-competitive but timed one-day mass-start road rides over a set course/distance, usually roughly the length of a typical pro tour stage or one-day race. Will often have one or two shorter course options built-in for those who don't want to do the whole distance.
If that includes pay-to-ride events and annual charity rides like the Multiple Sclerosis rides (I think the MS ride actually has a 150-mile option), yep I see plenty of people riding hybrids on those events.

Every year I do the Montauk Century here on Long Island using my Sirrus LTD.
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Originally Posted by xoxoxoxoLive View Post
I'm sure your right, but even if your not, sure sounded darn good ! LOL, I still want at least two others to concur with you before I'm 100 percent convinced ! Richard
Ummm ... OK?!?
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Originally Posted by javal View Post
Since there┤s frequently comparisons between hybrids and roadies in this subforum, how many do sportives on your hybrids? Here in Sweden its quite common with hybrids on sportives/amateur races. I┤ve done a couple myself, engaging just as much into the competetive dimension as I do with my road bikes. Anyone else? Planning to?
Javal, if you're referring to the kind of event I defined above, I think hybrids etc. would be pretty uncommon in NAmerican sportives, but certainly not unheard of, especially 'flat-bar road bikes' (think Specialized Sirrus, Giant Rapid, etc.). I ride a Sirrus (don't much care for drop bars), and fitness permitting would certainly be interested in trying a sportive at some point, just for the sheer h_ll of it!
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Originally Posted by LongIslandTom View Post
If that includes pay-to-ride events and annual charity rides like the Multiple Sclerosis rides (I think the MS ride actually has a 150-mile option), yep I see plenty of people riding hybrids on those events.

Every year I do the Montauk Century here on Long Island using my Sirrus LTD.
Slightly different, in that many (most?) fully-organized sportives do include a race number, timing chip, etc. That is, a little more 'race-like' and typically faster-paced than a charity ride.

By the way ... lovely bike!
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Ummm ... OK?!?
I was ( Joking ) ! Richard : )
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Old 02-27-11, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by badger1 View Post
'Sportive', 'sportif', 'gran fondo' ... several names for the same thing. Not to be confused with audax/randoneuring.
Organized, theoretically non-competitive but timed one-day mass-start road rides over a set course/distance, usually roughly the length of a typical pro tour stage or one-day race. Will often have one or two shorter course options built-in for those who don't want to do the whole distance.
Very, very popular in Europe/UK, growing in popularity in NA. The idea is to have the experience of riding under pro-race kinds of conditions, but without the competitive pressure (or speeds). In practice, seems that there's usually a core group of riders who will immediately go off the front and race.
This is on spot what I┤m talking about. More essential, how many engage with their hybdrids in a "competetive" sense? Theres often discussions about "how fast" and "how long" and "what bike". A bit surprising this kind of amateur competetion (sportive) hasnt developed in the US. Over here, cycle clubs organize and the fees are helpful to the over all club economy. More important, hundreds of sportives all over Sweden during the summer months, endorse the sport and the lifestyle of biking.
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We have the Suzuka 4 hour Enduro here which I went in but unfortunately didn't have a hybrid at the time. There were hundreds of hybrids there. All bikes were chipped, registered and timed.
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I think that's gonna wind up as my dividing line - I've got a road bike (for now) but I just don't like it very much. I like my hybrid much better. But I wanna do metric centuries and eventually a century. I don't wanna be chained to a road bike to do it.

So I think if the race is timed and chipped, I'm staying out of it. If the speed is THAT big of a deal to whoever's putting it on, it's too serious and "road bikey" for me. But if it's a typical charity thing and it isn't timed and chipped, I'm gonna go for it.
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We have the Suzuka 4 hour Enduro here which I went in but unfortunately didn't have a hybrid at the time. There were hundreds of hybrids there. All bikes were chipped, registered and timed.
Japan! Not unexpected. Still, I would think amateur competitions were more widely spread. Thus the hybrid experiences could have been more complexed in comparison to roadies. I┤m curious...
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Semi-competitive bicycling events haven't caught on USA. I'd jump at an opportunity to enter one if the start was within reasonable cycling distance from my home. I'm not going to fly to California or Georgia to enter a race where my finish position will probably be in the triple digits. In USA it's considered bad form to enter an event you have no chance of winning. That hasn't stopped me from stepping up to a start line on occasion, but regrettably sportive is not in our blood.
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Japan! Not unexpected. Still, I would think amateur competitions were more widely spread. Thus the hybrid experiences could have been more complexed in comparison to roadies. I┤m curious...


We have loads of organised events here usually sponsored by Shimano (surprise surprise) , as Japan hasn't been totally infiltrated by the UCI yet. Because of this, it allows for all types of bike riders to compete / enter / enjoy the sport together, and not only be a spectator. Trust me, ALL types of bikes enter these events. Yes, it's all timed etc, but this is only for each rider to have an accurate recorded result for their own information. All entrants recieve a "fun pack" and prizes aren't awarded.

I mentioned the UCI hasn't infiltrated Japan yet, but unfortunately they are starting to grow here. Many beautiful Keirin tracks are closing down which is so sad. Note, those wanting a NJS frame better get your finger out, as my guess is they will be finished in the coming years.

In saying all that, Hybrids are flooding the streets of Japan, and cycling in general is growing at an uncredible pace. You would be shocked to see how many bike shops I have within a 1 km radius of my house.
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Originally Posted by giantcfr1 View Post
We have loads of organised events here usually sponsored by Shimano (surprise surprise) , as Japan hasn't been totally infiltrated by the UCI yet. Because of this, it allows for all types of bike riders to compete / enter / enjoy the sport together, and not only be a spectator. Trust me, ALL types of bikes enter these events. Yes, it's all timed etc, but this is only for each rider to have an accurate recorded result for their own information. All entrants recieve a "fun pack" and prizes aren't awarded.

I mentioned the UCI hasn't infiltrated Japan yet, but unfortunately they are starting to grow here. Many beautiful Keirin tracks are closing down which is so sad. Note, those wanting a NJS frame better get your finger out, as my guess is they will be finished in the coming years.

In saying all that, Hybrids are flooding the streets of Japan, and cycling in general is growing at an uncredible pace. You would be shocked to see how many bike shops I have within a 1 km radius of my house.
...and this is also the situation in Sweden. www.vatternrundan.se
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