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Old 11-23-11, 10:32 PM
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Can anyone here share info/experience with this bike?

The Giant Accend... front and rear "Suspension"



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Giant makes a good bike but a suspension on a hybrid is a complete joke. Suspensions add cost, complexity, weight, and use energy that otherwise would be used to move the bike forward.

If you must have one though I will say that it is a very clean approach to a suspension installation. Looks well engineered and doesn't stand out as a styling element.
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4.11, yes it does look like a clean design... I'm not sure if this bike has true suspension in the traditional sense, a guy at the local LBS here said that he ordered one of these to sell to a customer and said the "shocks" are more like rubber bumpers that don't do much more than take the snap out of rougher roads with little travel making the ride a little smoother, and don't add much weight at all. Anyways, wish I was there when he had it in the shop to check it out.
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Can you say "gimmick"? any type of suspension on a bike is so over rated, (except mountain bikes) even if you had a medical condition where you just couldn't ride a rigid those rubber blocks wouldn't do squat. And I'm sure when they wear out the replacement cost would be stupid if you could even buy them.

You are better served using the money for the "suspension" on a better component set.
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I agree that it's a pretty clean frame design. Kind of an update on Soft Tail (minimal rear suspension) designs.

I've always wanted a softtail.
Moots, Ritchey and KHS have made some of the ones I've wanted. Here's a KHS:



A Ritchey:



And a Moots:



I've also always wanted a slingshot. Another soft tail variation:

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Those are nice executions, freaky frames and a massive springs are not visually appealing to me.
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"Can you say "gimmick"? any type of suspension on a bike is so over rated"

May we safely assume, then, that you find pneumatic tires gimmicky, over-rated, and unnecessary?
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Originally Posted by badger1
"Can you say "gimmick"? any type of suspension on a bike is so over rated"

May we safely assume, then, that you find pneumatic tires gimmicky, over-rated, and unnecessary?
If you want to spend your money on suspensions go for it, I prefer to spend where it counts like better group sets, wheels, tires, etc, etc.

Suspensions add weight, cost, and complexity and for what, so you don't feel a few bumps in the road, give me a break.

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Originally Posted by 4.11
Giant makes a good bike but a suspension on a hybrid is a complete joke.
Why? What a ridiculous statement.

A rider who buys a hybrid buys a bike that suits the style of riding they plan on doing...some of whom require front suspension?

Such a ridiculous statement.
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I help a young couple select two hybrids to tour around the world. They came back later and said the real touring road bikes where beating up the owners in some locations. Apparently they did lots of very bad roads, cobblestones and trails in undeveloped areas. They were totally thrilled to have suspension on hybrids. They said some other riders were jealous.
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Originally Posted by Lexi01
Why? What a ridiculous statement.

A rider who buys a hybrid buys a bike that suits the style of riding they plan on doing...some of whom require front suspension?

Such a ridiculous statement.
It is not ridiculous at all, as I said many times in other posts, if you want to spend the money on a suspension have at it. But for 95% of the riding a hybrid bike is going see a suspension is overkill, or a joke, whatever.

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I help a young couple select two hybrids to tour around the world. They came back later and said the real touring road bikes where beating up the owners in some locations. Apparently they did lots of very bad roads, cobblestones and trails in undeveloped areas. They were totally thrilled to have suspension on hybrids. They said some other riders were jealous.
And for the 99.5% of us who don't tour the world on our bikes suspensions are overkill. I have a suspension on my mountain bike and if I were hitting the streets of Apoupoumaumau to grab a latte it certainly wouldn't be on either of my rigid bikes.

Suspensions on bikes have their place but to read about how you just have to have one because one of these days you might pedal down a dirt trail is total folly.
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Originally Posted by 4.11
But for 95% of the riding a hybrid bike is going see a suspension is overkill, or a joke, whatever.
How do YOU know what 95% of the riding a hybrid bike is going see? My front suspension is certainly engaged more (a whole lot more) than 5% of the time. So are the 3 guys I'm normally riding with.

I love people that pull meaningless, unsubstantiated stats out of there butts and use them as fact.
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I have an alu hybrid with front suspension, which I use as my primary commuter, and a steel road bike that is my fun weekend ride and back-up commuter. My commute is 100% paved, which means potholes and cracks across the road for much of the ride. I much prefer the hybrid to the road bike for the commute. A little slower and a whole lot less teeth jarring.
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In my experience, most of the hybrids that get sold here, are to begginer cyclists. It is true that they may end up buying a bike with suspension when they have no need for it. It is also true that the weight and complexity of a bike that never leaves the bike path would be easier to pedal without suspension.

But, right or wrong, bike companies make what sells the best, and LBS's want to have what sells the best in inventory. Many hybrids sold also go to people who would like to have suspension in case they do go off road, and never end up doing it. Some hybrids are used on poor pavement and the suspenison makes for a better ride and more control when hitting big hole or a big bump. Some riders just want a smoother ride, even when on pavement.

Sometimes it's a personal choice, other times people buy suspension when they really don't need it. it's not a huge disaster. The value of anything can be different to different people too. So what? Having the capability to be smoother on a dirt road and being less efficinet on the road is OK for some. When people tell me they never will go off road, I do tell them a bike without suspension is a little faster,or more efficient, on the pavement. It's also a pain in the neck for someone who lives in a third floor apartment. I bring this up too. If someone has a back that is as bad as mine, I also point out that it's a little easier to lift the lighter bike up and onto the car bike rack.
I do the best I can to inform the customer as much as possible. If there is no non- suspension bike in the shop, it's OK if they go to another shop. As long as they end up with what is best for them, or what they want. That is the prevailing attitude where I spend most of my time.
It is true that some places don't operate this way.
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Seems everyone with an opinion here has no experience with the bike. I own one. I bought in the late spring and I absolutely love it. The suspension is not enough to rob all your pedaling power but enough to take a rough road and smooth it out. As for weight with the upgrades I made on mine I have at a respectable 24.5 lbs. My wife and I were out on a ride on new chipseal and after she rode it for a couple of miles we ordered her a 2012 model (it was a color thing). I couldn't be happier. Those who write "gimmick" just have not tried one.
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Originally Posted by itsmcgee
Seems everyone with an opinion here has no experience with the bike. I own one. I bought in the late spring and I absolutely love it. The suspension is not enough to rob all your pedaling power but enough to take a rough road and smooth it out. As for weight with the upgrades I made on mine I have at a respectable 24.5 lbs. My wife and I were out on a ride on new chipseal and after she rode it for a couple of miles we ordered her a 2012 model (it was a color thing). I couldn't be happier. Those who write "gimmick" just have not tried one.
Thank you! Finally, some input on the bike. I was beginning to wonder how to change the title of this thread to "Do suspensions on Hybrids suck or what?" Anyways, the guy at the local LBS here thought the bike was really nice as well, and said he could order me one at a good price, but I'm not working at the moment. I was wondering about the bike though because one day Ill want to upgrade from my Crosstrail. I also find the Bad Boy bikes interesting. If you have anything more to say about your bike, do tell... photos of your bike would be great if you are able.
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Just a thought about the suspension on my Crosstrail since all this back and forth on the topic. Now that I have had the bike for awhile now, and know now what most of my riding consists of, I could probably do without the front suspension, it certainly wouldn't kill me if it wasn't there, but it does come in handy, as many roads around here are pretty bad. It doesn't have a lock out, that is something I wish I did have, bit its adjustable and I leave it on the stiffest setting there is, which still smooths out the ride, but doesn't sop up much of my peddling energy. It also helps a bit since putting on way thinner higher pressure tires which really brings out every nook and cranny in the road. Chances are good my next bike wont have suspension, but everyone has different needs and interests, not everyone cares about being a speed demon, or counting every gram of weight, or worries much about a fraction of their pedal power being lost, they appreciate feeling the bumps and holes a little less, so it works for them. Different strokes for different folks, and all that...
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Originally Posted by Lexi01
How do YOU know what 95% of the riding a hybrid bike is going see? My front suspension is certainly engaged more (a whole lot more) than 5% of the time. So are the 3 guys I'm normally riding with.
I love people that pull meaningless, unsubstantiated stats out of there butts and use them as fact.
Then what is the stat? do you have the number? do you really think most people who ride bikes go off road? they don't, it is mostly cement, and maybe once in a while hard packed dirt and gravel trails, and for this a suspension is needed??

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Seems everyone with an opinion here has no experience with the bike. I own one. I bought in the late spring and I absolutely love it. The suspension is not enough to rob all your pedaling power but enough to take a rough road and smooth it out. As for weight with the upgrades I made on mine I have at a respectable 24.5 lbs. My wife and I were out on a ride on new chipseal and after she rode it for a couple of miles we ordered her a 2012 model (it was a color thing). I couldn't be happier. Those who write "gimmick" just have not tried one.
I did not say that bike was a gimmick, I said this "that it is a very clean approach to a suspension installation. Looks well engineered and doesn't stand out as a styling element". On a hybrid bike and for the riding that most people do a suspension is absolutely not required and yes, a gimmick, or joke, or whatever I said.

If you must have a suspension for that twig in front of you have at it, it's your money, buy what you want. For newbies looking for info they need to know that a suspension isn't required and they can use that money for a higher quality bike or better components.
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Originally Posted by 4.11
Then what is the stat? do you have the number? do you really think most people who ride bikes go off road? they don't, it is mostly cement, and maybe once in a while hard packed dirt and gravel trails, and for this a suspension is needed
I'm not the one quoting percentages champ...that'd be you. I'm stating personal opinion and experiences. I was (and still am) just wondering where you get your numbers from - my bet is from your butt.

It's cool to state personal opinions. They're all valid (yes, including yours). But try to refrain from the misleading garbage.
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Originally Posted by Lexi01
I'm not the one quoting percentages champ...that'd be you. I'm stating personal opinion and experiences. I was (and still am) just wondering where you get your numbers from - my bet is from your butt.

It's cool to state personal opinions. They're all valid (yes, including yours). But try to refrain from the misleading garbage.
What are the numbers then, if mine aren't good lets hear yours. I'm sure they are the same. Sorry that my opinion makes you so angry.

You are the only one here stating personal opinion and experiences? that's funny because I thought every person who posts on the forum did that.

Look, you can be the guy who says suspensions are good, I'll be the guy who says they are overkill, and then people can go ride the both and determine what will work for them, because that is pretty much what happens anyway.

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Originally Posted by 4.11
What are the numbers then
Oh my god...can't believe you asked the same question...again.

Good one champ.
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Originally Posted by Lexi01
Oh my god...can't believe you asked the same question...again.

Good one champ.
Well you didn't answer the first time, but I'm not surprised since we already know what you would say.

It is unfortunate you have to revert to belittling when you don't like what is written in a post, it really takes away from the forum and shows that your opposing opinion has little merit.
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Originally Posted by 4.11
Well you didn't answer the first time, but I'm not surprised since we already know what you would say.

It is unfortunate you have to revert to belittling when you don't like what is written in a post, it really takes away from the forum and shows that your opposing opinion has little merit.
You're the master of contradiction...keep it up champ.
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Originally Posted by Lexi01
You're the master of contradiction...keep it up champ.
???

Do us all a favor and grow up a little.

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Originally Posted by 4.11
???

Do us all a favor and grow up a little.
There you go again - speaking on behalf of other people...

Good one champ.
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