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Old 12-10-11, 05:22 PM
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This riding in the dark just isn't going to cut it

This riding in the dark just isn't going to cut it.

Can someone suggest a good headlight for riding around town in the dark?

I don't have a lot of money to spend, so a big bang for the buck is welcomed.

What do you guys think?

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The Magicshine light is the biggest bang for the buck that I know of, it's what I use. Alot of people use flashlights with purpose made handlebar mounts and this may be a cheaper way to go....check out the electronics/lighting section of this forum and also candlepower forums bicycle light section http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...php?86-Bicycle
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The Magicshine light is the biggest bang for the buck that I know of, it's what I use. Alot of people use flashlights with purpose made handlebar mounts and this may be a cheaper way to go....check out the electronics/lighting section of this forum and also candlepower forums bicycle light section http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...php?86-Bicycle
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I second the Magicshine. I isn't the "best", but it is the best for the price. I do suggest a bit of waterproofing however because that seems to be its weakest point, but I've had mine for almost three years and I would buy another one if I trashed it in a crash.
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Old 12-10-11, 11:25 PM
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/XML-T6-Water...ht_4681wt_1163

I have something similar to this. $42 shipped from Dealextreme.com It works..no issues and is SUPER bright.
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Originally Posted by zerogravity View Post
http://www.ebay.com/itm/XML-T6-Water...ht_4681wt_1163

I have something similar to this. $42 shipped from Dealextreme.com It works..no issues and is SUPER bright.
+1 to dealextreme.com. I have a p4 flashlight from DX and bought a $2 bike mount to go with it. The flashlight is about $30, but you have to buy $7 rechargeable lithium ion batteries and a $10-12 charger for the batteries. I like this option because I take it off with me whenever I don't need it and it can be used around the house. and it's bright as heck. standing on my front porch, I can fully light a house down the street about 5 houses down (or about 300-400 feet). and on the bike, it has a nice blend of flood (out wide light) and throw (long, narrow light). it really is a good option for a cyclist. On high mode, I can see far enough with just this light to comfortably cruise between 20-25 mph.

As for the negatives of dealextreme, it takes between 2 or 3 weeks, some say as long as a month, to get what you ordered. they are in china and ship from there mostly. I think they have opened a distribution center in england, but it still takes time. But they have all kinds of cool bike stuff for real cheap. I have 4 sets of velcro yellow reflective bands on order from them at about $2 a pair.

the only other thing i would recommend is a helmet mounted light to go with a bar mounted light. that allows your bike to light the path and you can turn your head to see whats around corners, next to you, behind you, etc.
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Originally Posted by zerogravity View Post
http://www.ebay.com/itm/XML-T6-Water...ht_4681wt_1163

I have something similar to this. $42 shipped from Dealextreme.com It works..no issues and is SUPER bright.
That's pretty impressive! If I order one now I still have 2 months of winter to play with it, allowing for a 1 month delivery time. Thanks!

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P.S. Okay I just ordered one!!!

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Sorry Charlie but I take lighting very serious. If they can't see you and you can't see the road, bad things happen.

600 lumens is affordable at $104 online from eBay vendors. Have two of them for 1200 lumens.

NiteRider MiNewt.600 Cordless Bike Light on my bar:



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Originally Posted by mikeschn View Post
That's pretty impressive! If I order one now I still have 2 months of winter to play with it, allowing for a 1 month delivery time. Thanks!

Mikey

P.S. Okay I just ordered one!!!
Mine took 10 days. They now have a US warehouse so shipping should take a week. You will love it. As soon as i upload my Gopro vid From tonight's ride it will show how bright it is on the trails as well as the streets. 900 lumens is PLENTY!
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Here ya go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNAWWIB9vDc
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The MiNewt is the minimum I would suggest and I would use it at full power. On amazon a ton of reviewers ride it on LOW.. I have no idea wth they are thinking. Maybe they ride way slower than I do and seeing only 10 feet ahead is acceptable.

I ride with a Ultrafire WF502b (Cree T5 LED) flashlight on my handlebar and a DealExtreme T6 XML light on my helmet. The DealExtreme light has a really tight pattern-- it's great for helmet use, but horrible for primary use on your bars. You need a wide angle for your primary light. I aim my flashlight so that it hits the ground roughly 25 feet in front of me, and it throws a wide enough pattern to light at least 10 feet to either side. Conversely, my helmet light's pencil beam illuminates a spot no more than 4-5 feet wide (total) at 25 feet. It's one third to one quarter as wide as the LED flashlight.

I get at least 5 hours of life out of my helmet light, which has a sealed battery pack that appears to contain four 18650 cells. The flashlight takes one of those and it goes about 90 minutes at 50 degrees with a crappy battery.

Links to stuff I mentioned above:
Handlebar mount: http://www.shiningbeam.com/servlet/t...Bicycle/Detail
(WARNING: you will need to shim it to use on smaller on bars smaller than ~28mm, and also shim a single 18650 flashlight like I use. I find this a minor inconvenience at worst.)
T5 LED flashlight: http://www.amazon.com/UltraFire-WF-5...3786570&sr=8-1
Cheap charger and 18650 cells: http://www.amazon.com/UltraFire-3000...cm_cr-mr-title
Far better cells: http://www.dealextreme.com/p/trustfi...s-2-pack-20392
Helmet light: http://www.dealextreme.com/p/t6-assa...pack-set-82508 -- Reminder, I don't suggest this as a primary light.
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A definite price point above what others are suggesting, but I picked up a Stella 400 from Light & Motion for about 75 bucks on a really good sale. Have not regretted the purchase cuz it's cheaper than skin, broken bones etc. The lights come off quickly & fit in your pocket if you stop somewhere. If you keep your eyes peeled & your wallet handy deals can be found.
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I have this Romisen flashlight from ShiningBeam. With charger, 2 batteries, and a mount, it cost about $60. It lights up a sign about 1/2 block ahead, and lasts about 1.5 hours on one battery.
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G,day all I just took delivery of this 2400 lumens light from flebay. I took a chance because it was only $61 and doesn't seem to have a name but build quality seems excellent. It has 3 power settings single spotlight, 2 sidelights and full power all 3 lights it lasts 2 to 12 hours and light on the lowest power is still great.

I bought a new camera and dont know the correct setting because it seems a lot better standing next to the bike. If something goes wrong with it I'll post about it but the bang for buck value is impressive.





It does have a name and here's a link.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2400-Lume...item2c5f8e3fa1

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That is completely awesome. Great pics, too!
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That looks awesome. I like your bottle cage btw.
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Yep its awesome. I measured the distance in day light today the second pic was 95 meters or 311 feet to the tree in the middle but what doesn't show well is light extends possibly double that beyond the tree.
The third pic was 60 meters or 197 feet to the tree just beyond the pile of rubble to the right. Thats just awesome when I raced endurance events on motorcycles often though the night I didn't have light that good. Bottle cage another flebay buy.

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I see those two cats :-) The Mickey Mouse lights are popular. Good combination of spill and throw. That one looks very nice!
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Yep its awesome. I measured the distance in day light today the second pic was 95 meters or 311 feet to the tree in the middle but what doesn't show well is light extends possibly double that beyond the tree.
The third pic was 60 meters or 197 feet to the tree just beyond the pile of rubble to the right. Thats just awesome when I raced endurance events on motorcycles often though the night I didn't have light that good. Bottle cage another flebay buy.
I think i just found my new handlebar lights and graduated my 900 luman light to my helmet. Thanx for posting!
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Originally Posted by jbchybridrider View Post
G,day all I just took delivery of this 2400 lumens light from flebay. I took a chance because it was only $61 and doesn't seem to have a name but build quality seems excellent. It has 3 power settings single spotlight, 2 sidelights and full power all 3 lights it lasts 2 to 12 hours and light on the lowest power is still great.

I bought a new camera and dont know the correct setting because it seems a lot better standing next to the bike. If something goes wrong with it I'll post about it but the bang for buck value is impressive.





It does have a name and here's a link.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2400-Lume...item2c5f8e3fa1
Q: Does this headlight have a strobe feature?
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Q: Does this headlight have a strobe feature?
No it doesn't flash I think this light is mainly for offroad use but the blinding nature of this light is sure to annoy drivers on road even on low beam which is the two side lights. The middle light is a spot beam the two side lights fill in at the sides and about 15 or 20 meters in front even on low beam it's way more powerful than my old Cateye Opticube.
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I see those two cats :-)
Yes the little buggers like to follow me around but its the roo's the light saves me from riding the roads around my area.
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Originally Posted by zerogravity View Post
I think i just found my new handlebar lights and graduated my 900 luman light to my helmet. Thanx for posting!
3300 Lumens some people are never satisfied
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No it doesn't flash I think this light is mainly for offroad use but the blinding nature of this light is sure to annoy drivers on road even on low beam which is the two side lights. The middle light is a spot beam the two side lights fill in at the sides and about 15 or 20 meters in front even on low beam it's way more powerful than my old Cateye Opticube.
Roger that. Although it doesn't have a strobe/flash feature, it appears to be an excellent and very bright headlight. Thanks for sharing.
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Originally Posted by jbchybridrider View Post
G,day all I just took delivery of this 2400 lumens light from flebay. I took a chance because it was only $61 and doesn't seem to have a name but build quality seems excellent. It has 3 power settings single spotlight, 2 sidelights and full power all 3 lights it lasts 2 to 12 hours and light on the lowest power is still great.

I bought a new camera and dont know the correct setting because it seems a lot better standing next to the bike. If something goes wrong with it I'll post about it but the bang for buck value is impressive.





It does have a name and here's a link.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2400-Lume...item2c5f8e3fa1
Actually that's a steal for the money. They're being pushed by a variety of sellers for as little as $34. The only catch seems to be a warranty that's limited to 30 days. If they doen't actually last much longer than that it could be an expensive short-term solution.
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OK So maybe I'm a bit of a pessimist. I checked the specs on those LEDs and got the manufacturers maximum output ratings.
CREE XM-L T6 LED maximum rating 1000 lumensXPE R2 LED Maximum rating 120 lumens
So if I got those numbers right the only way anyone is going to get 2400 lumens out of this is going to seriously affect the life expectancy even using pulse width modulation technology.
Any other opinions?

Edit: Looks like I answered my own question.


I've traced the wholesaler to Xecconlight who are offering to supply the light in a 1,800 lumen version labeled a Xeccon S6 :http://www.xecconlight.com/cree-t6-bicycle-light-s6 and then to DealExtreme where its being offered for retail sale, rebranded as TrustFire lights, in both 1,800 lumen and 2,400 lumen versions. The 1,800 version has a one year warranty. Both companies are operating out of Hong Kong.
Sorry - personally not interested. Generally, companies set up businesses in China rather than at home to avoid having to respect regulated wage and working conditions in their own countries. Conversely, Chinese retailers practice Internet marketing rather than setting up distributors worldwide to avoid product liability and quality regulation issues.

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