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Old 02-26-12, 01:36 AM
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Question Bad Boy vs Trek FX 7.7 ( Best City Commuter Hybrid )

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After so much research, I've decided on the Cannondale Bad Boy or Trek FX 7.7.

A distant 3rd is the Specialized Sirrus Pro ( carbon fork and chain stays ).

We are mostly city commuting in large metro area, some Beach ( hard packed sand, very little off road, if any, some gravel. So. Florida is flat land so commuting mostly on hard surfaces around downtown Ft. Luaderdale. Great Forum BTW ... Thanks a lot.

Thx in Advance.

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Old 02-26-12, 01:37 AM
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Those are expensive bikes for commuting...do you have a safe place to put it at both ends?

Which Cannondale Bad Bay in particular? There are several models.
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If you're commuting, get the Bad Boy 9!

You won't regret it!
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I say Rohloff hub , the European market gets C dale Badboys with those hubs

State side you have to put up with lesser IG shimano hubs,
or for Florida a 3 or 5 speed will do
.. tail wind, JRA, and headwind gear

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Old 02-26-12, 09:26 AM
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I've always been a Trek fan so I would say you can't go wrong with that 7.7 but that Bad Boy is a real cool looking bike too. Either way I think you'll enjoy it.
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A couple of quick initial questions:

-- have you actually ridden any/all of the three, as opposed to just reading about them? No one on here can usefully "tell" you in the abstract which you would/should prefer (and you should ignore anyone who purports to do so), and you can't determine that in any useful way without actually (physically) comparing them. All three are quality bicycles, and all three (or more, see below!) would serve admirably as 'commuting' bicycles under the conditions you describe.

-- to which of the several C'dale BB models are you referring? There are major differences between them.
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Commuter cars get more respect from other commuter cars, than commuter bikes get from one another!

Nobody respects a bicycle except for its owner!

Just go to any Supermarket or Library parking lot to observe. Most car owners are conscientious about opening their car doors next to another car. They'll either open the car door slowly, or give pause just before finally exiting their cars.

Now visit your neighborhood library's bicycle rack! Better yet! Go to a state college and observe how the "more highly intelligent" members of the cycling community, treat one another's bikes when parking and locking up!

Once you've done this experiment, you'll find that you're list is far too short, due to the distinct absence of cheaper bikes! You might wanna visit your local Walmart!

PS.

I currently own a Trek 7.5FX that I wouldn't park at the neighborhood library. Therefore, I know for certain, that I wouldn't be taking a Trek 7.7FX to any public venue where I'd be forced to lock up at a rack. There had better be other options available. Otherwise, it's to Walmart I'll have to go!

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Old 02-26-12, 10:28 AM
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I'd have to agree with SlimRider on this one!

When you have a commuter Hybrid that you don't mind if it gets trashed or stolen so you can upgrade, then you have the right commuter hybrid.
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Ray,

I own a Trek FX 7.7 and use it for commuting. I absolutely love the bike and highly recommend it. I've always been a road biker but last year bought a Sirrus Sport for commuting. It was just too boring to ride. The FX is a night and day difference.

Yes, it is an expensive bike, but I've never had a problem with anyone messing with it. I live in a smaller city, but there are two universities here and I am familiar with the jumbled bike racks. I just avoid those.

Life's too short to ride a boring bike (but make sure your homeowner's policy is up-to-date .. .)

Bonne chance!
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Hello Everyone -

I'm looking at the Bad Boy 1 and Trek FX 7.7.

Price difference is big = The 7.7 is $2215.00 out the door.

The Bad Boy 1 is about $1650.00 out the door

I live downtown in a major Florida city.

Either Bikes is a risk of being stolen ... I'll use a good lock and chain.

I'm 50 years old.

Thanks Again for your advice.
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Originally Posted by Ray66 View Post
Hello Everyone -

I'm looking at the Bad Boy 1 and Trek FX 7.7.

Price difference is big = The 7.7 is $2215.00 out the door.

The Bad Boy 1 is about $1650.00 out the door

I live downtown in a major Florida city.

Either Bikes is a risk of being stolen ... I'll use a good lock and chain.

I'm 50 years old.

Thanks Again for your advice.
I was waiting on your reply to the, (at risk of being stolen) before commenting, either one of those left unattended day after day locked or not. WILL get stolen ! Not a matter of if, but when. Sad But True, Richard
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I understand Richard.

However, it's a risk I'm willing to take especially here in SE Florida or So. Florida. However, I have a large / strong locking system and I would never leave the Bike more than a few minutes. My only other option is to buy a cheapo at Dick's or Sports Authority. Trek makes a lower FX line, however I want a high quaility comfy Hybrid.

All this said I've narrowed down my selection to:

1. Specialized Sirrus Pro
2. Cannondale Bab Boy 1
3. Trek FX 7.7.

Please advise.

Thanks again in advance
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Ray66,

I agree with Aunt Roady ... so long as you are aware of the risks (re. theft), and can absorb any replacement costs if necessary, buy and ride something you'll love riding.

That said, I'm still wondering (!): have you ridden the three bikes you are considering? One of them should 'speak' to you (fit, ride feel, looks) ... that's the one you should purchase. All three (in my view) are excellent, but different. I tested extensively both the 7.7FX and the BB 1 (2010 versions). I ended up with a 2010 Sirrus Comp (equivalent to this year's Pro) that I love and have since completely upgraded, but that's me. As you've seen, someone like Aunt Roady prefers the Trek.

All three (repeat) would work extremely well for your intended use.

If I were to offer one comment, it would be this: I think you'd find -- over time -- the Trek or Spec. slightly more 'comfortable' re. road noise/shock than the C'Dale, given equivalent tire width/pressure. The first two have been/are designed (geometry, frame features) much more with this in mind. This would be more noticeable with tires below 32c width (e.g. 23/25/28). But again, you might not notice the difference; I did, but then I'm old (60) and arthritic!

BTW, south Florida ... lucky dog! Just back from our annual winter stay in Naples ... perfect whether, great cycling along the Gulf shore. Wonder what the Atlantic coast is like!
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Yes, I've ridden ( tested all 3 bikes ). But it was the Sirrus Limited, not the Pro. Thx.
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Does anyone else find it weird that slim has made two posts and has not yet mentioned Jamis?

All three are nice bikes but the Cannondale does have a suspension fork that you might not want.

After testing all three, did you find one that was favorable over the others? Since you tested the Sirrus Limited, was there something you did not like about it and preferring the Pro over the Limited? The reason I ask is because it's similarly priced to the Trek 7.7FX. Is it because of the full carbon frame?
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Originally Posted by Ray66 View Post
Yes, I've ridden ( tested all 3 bikes ). But it was the Sirrus Limited, not the Pro. Thx.
Well then, if it were me (it's not, but if it were!) choosing, and given your intended use/riding conditions, I'd go with either the Trek or Spec.

Reason? The BB 1 is a great bike, no question, but ... in my view both the suspension (I'm assuming the '12 model) and the discs add unnecessary weight/complexity. Were you intending, for example, to do some real trail riding from time to time, my response might be different, but that doesn't seem to be on your radar (?).

For road cycling, I like my bike to be at or under the 20 lb. mark. Both of your alternatives should be at or near that mark. Both have v-brakes, which (properly maintained/adjusted) will provide more than enough stopping power, even in wet conditions. I have discs on one bike, v-brakes on the other -- never had a problem with either. Both have raked carbon forks (and, in the case of the Trek, the damping device in the rear triangle), which (with good, correctly-inflated tires) should provide all the shock absorption/damping you need. One other, minor point: I'm not a big fan of 'proprietary integrated design', e.g. the front suspension and single-leg fork on the C'Dale. But that is a minor point, and wouldn't be determinative for me.

Both the Trek and Specialized should prove more than comfortable enough; my 2010 Sirrus, for example, has slightly tighter geometry than the bikes you're looking at, and I ride on 25c road tires over very poorly-maintained roads ... no issues at all. Both should also prove slightly more efficient (lower weight), especially on hills (though you may not have many of those in your area!).

So that's my perspective, for what it's worth. Good luck!
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Originally Posted by jsdavis View Post
Does anyone else find it weird that slim has made two posts and has not yet mentioned Jamis?

All three are nice bikes but the Cannondale does have a suspension fork that you might not want.

After testing all three, did you find one that was favorable over the others? Since you tested the Sirrus Limited, was there something you did not like about it and preferring the Pro over the Limited? The reason I ask is because it's similarly priced to the Trek 7.7FX. Is it because of the full carbon frame?
I have not ridden one. However the one legged fork has me wondering how it will perform over less than smooth surfaces. Yes it has a suspension fork but I'm wondering if it would tend to transmit vibrations more than a double sided fork.
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Originally Posted by jsdavis View Post
Does anyone else find it weird that slim has made two posts and has not yet mentioned Jamis?

All three are nice bikes but the Cannondale does have a suspension fork that you might not want.

After testing all three, did you find one that was favorable over the others? Since you tested the Sirrus Limited, was there something you did not like about it and preferring the Pro over the Limited? The reason I ask is because it's similarly priced to the Trek 7.7FX. Is it because of the full carbon frame?
Why would I suggest anything other than the two choices listed by the OP?...Besides we're already beyond the pricepoint of the Jamis Coda Elite. If the OP wanted disc brakes on a world-class, award-winning, hybrid-of-the-year bicycle, he would have stated as much. Therefore, I didn't mention the Jamis Coda Elite.

Thanks, for being so observant JS!

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For one thing, the Cannondale Bad Boy 1 and the Jamis Coda Elite have very similar build specs. Both use a mix of Alivio and Deore drivetrain components including hubs but the BB1 adds a SLX RD. The BB1 has Magura hydraulics and the Coda Elite has Avid BB7 and both are within $10 of each others retail cost. The only thing that the BB1 brings to the table is the front suspension which probably isn't needed.

How does steel with a carbon fiber fork ride compared to an aluminum frame with front suspension or the aluminum and carbon frames of the others compare, I have no idea. Weight wise, I have no idea either. My guess is advantage goes to the aluminum and carbon bikes.

The Jamis at $1050, $600 less than the Cannondale, presents a tremendous value compared to the Bad Boy 1 if the suspension fork isn't needed.
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Originally Posted by jsdavis View Post
For one thing, the Cannondale Bad Boy 1 and the Jamis Coda Elite have very similar build specs. Both use a mix of Alivio and Deore drivetrain components including hubs but the BB1 adds a SLX RD. The BB1 has Magura hydraulics and the Coda Elite has Avid BB7 and both are within $10 of each others retail cost. The only thing that the BB1 brings to the table is the front suspension which probably isn't needed.

How does steel with a carbon fiber fork ride compared to an aluminum frame with front suspension or the aluminum and carbon frames of the others compare, I have no idea. Weight wise, I have no idea either. My guess is advantage goes to the aluminum and carbon bikes.

The Jamis at $1050, $600 less than the Cannondale, presents a tremendous value compared to the Bad Boy 1 if the suspension fork isn't needed.
JS! I'm so glad you're here!

That was nice!

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Since you tested the Sirrus Limited, was there something you did not like about it and preferring the Pro over the Limited? The reason I ask is because it's similarly priced to the Trek 7.7FX. Is it because of the full carbon frame?
The Sirrus Limited has no eyelits or holes for Racks and I got a large, and it's a little to big, and it's a fragile all carbon bike. I want a Hybrid with rack capabilities. All CF is nice but it's overkill for me.

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Thanks. Great people here. I'm leaning towards the Trek 7.7 FX .... This week I will take another test ride on both and maybe even work in a Sirrus Pro, if I can locate one in my area.

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I think it's down to personal preference. I agree with the comments about avoiding suspension. Disk brakes are probably not going to add a lot of helpful functionality. I think the Trek is overpriced for an aluminum bike with 105 components. I would consider the 7.6 or 7.5 and save yourself some money. They all have carbon fork for more comfort, the 7.5 is only 9 speed and has 28c tires.
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Thanks Guys. Leaning towards the Trek 7.7 FX.
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