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amkaos 03-13-12 08:54 AM

7.9fx weight?
 
soo, google told me that a lbs that i knew of dealt in 3 brands i consider.

they were still closed, i was going in that neighborhood around opening time so i didnt call.

all they had was trek nothing else.. i was told that No shop carried trek + giant because of contractual agreements.

i know for sure that another lbs does carry both brands..

they exactly got attitude when i corrected their info about 7.9fx being currently offered.

after looking it up, they seemed to remr that it was killed off because it weighed more than 7.7 fx.. because the carbon frame had to be much thicker.. this exchange was w/ the manager.. previously, i weighed a 7.6fx frame -- 26.7 #

i was also told that different levels fx frames geometrys are diff... jeebus..

seemed like the stupidest thing i ever heard but i dont care so i didnt care..

they said they have a 7.9 fx frame in the store. by all this time i dont care what they have, not gonna do business there.

maybe i shouldda asked how much and what size tho..

its a good thing the 6 shops i went to dont need my fan support..
probabilities say that im now @ 86% to buy through nets.. just acuz i cannot support these lbs and i only have like 1 more to check..


short version == does anyone know how much 7.9 fx weighs?
no biggie
thanx

SlimRider 03-13-12 11:24 AM

Amkaos, the Trek FX series are all hybrids. They weigh close to the same amount. What difference does it make to you, if you're not racing these bikes? Besides, one doesn't usually race hybrids anyway.

One thing for certain, if you buy a Trek that has disc brakes, it will weigh more. IMHO, you should just get a Trek 7.5FX and be done with it! You're going to need the support of your LBS.

If you have great hills to climb and your roads are frequently wet, then get the Trek 7.5FX disc. This recommendation is strenuously urged, if you're overweight.

- Slim

ColinL 03-13-12 12:45 PM

1. bring bathroom scale with you.
2. ask for demo ride.
3. ride out to parking lot and weigh bike + you, then you alone. ideally twice per, but if you have a decent scale on level ground once should be adequate.

oh, and step zero:

0. improve your attitude. shops do not like working with PITA customers especially if they feel unlikely to sell you a bike no matter what they do.


regarding your quest for a bike as described above... I would first make sure you don't want a road bike. drop bars are a good thing. if you are just unfamiliar with drop bars, rent a bike for a day and give them a good hour+ ride. having many hand positions is a very, very good thing as you pile on miles. you can ride long distances on a flatbar, and some noteable forum members do!-- but I'd choose drop bars for any ride >15 miles on pavement, and I'd choose flatbars on any ride with challenging dirt trails.

but anyway, if you're really sure you don't want a road bike then what you're describing here is a flatbar road bike. the trek FX series, cannondale quick, and giant rapid all have rigid forks, narrow tire clearances, and light-ish weights approaching 20 pounds on the higher end models.

amkaos 03-13-12 03:12 PM

hm gee well i knew for sure that readers would think that im the lbs' problem.. no. if i go ask for exactly what i want to see and get corralled to elsewhere.. they go by an out dated business model.

i should apologize to them for giving them an idea that i come for a debate..

i did find a lbs today that understands an informed buyer.
he had giant rapid 1 in xl.. really nice bike.. fit great.. on scale -- 20.5 #

went to fuji store and yet again, they were 'mistaken' about what he had inventory and wanted to take me to bike too small..fine; i have stuff to do and call me if you get absolute 1 in my size.

believe it not no, i dont care atall about tuneups, adjustments, etc.. just process and fulfill the warranty and im good..sounds like the opposite of pita.

trek fx is a great fit but a non-starter..

thnx for the replies.. i know you mean well..

Talldog 03-13-12 06:19 PM

My 7.9FX weighs 21 pounds if I remember correctly. My Giant FCR1 weighs almost a pound less. In comparison, the 7.5FX weighs 23.5 pounds. Lighter is always better, no matter what anyone says to the contrary. That being said, when dealing with flat bar road bike weights, it's more of a good, better, or best proposition. A few pounds of weight should not a deal breaker, or fun breaker, one way or the other.

PS: the benefit from the carbon fiber frame is not just weight. A large(r) part of it is ride quality.

ColinL 03-13-12 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talldog (Post 13968394)
PS: the benefit from the carbon fiber frame is not just weight. A large(r) part of it is ride quality.

big /nod on that.

carbon bars alone help a lot though.

a1penguin 03-14-12 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talldog (Post 13968394)
In comparison, the 7.5FX weighs 23.5 pounds. Lighter is always better, no matter what anyone says to the contrary.

My coworker weighed my Trek 7.5FX with disk at almost 26 lbs (with Shimano M520 pedals). While it's heavy, my road bike weighed in at 23+ lbs and it rides a lot faster. Drop bars and narrower bars make for a riding position that is more aero.

ColinL 03-14-12 07:36 AM

Your average $1200 aluminum road bike will weigh about 20 pounds.

Another thing to consider besides a road bike, if you will do some gravel roads and light trail, but nothing technical, is a cyclocross bike. It varies by model, but a lot of them can fit bigger than 35mm tires. Of course they can use a 23mm slick also, if all you want is on-road speed.

sh00k 03-14-12 07:53 AM

Someone on this forum said this and it's stuck with me since: it's much cheaper to lose a few pounds yourself (if you have extra to lose) than to spend a crazy amount of $ on a "lighter" bike. i wish i had this advice before i bought my 7.7 :D l0l

Talldog 03-14-12 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sh00k (Post 13970241)
Someone on this forum said this and it's stuck with me since: it's much cheaper to lose a few pounds yourself (if you have extra to lose) than to spend a crazy amount of $ on a "lighter" bike. i wish i had this advice before i bought my 7.7 :D l0l

That is true but at the same time, at any given body weight, the lighter bike will be livelier and faster.

ColinL 03-14-12 08:42 AM

The other thing about buying a more expensive bike isn't just weight... it's that the higher-end components will shift better, roll a little better, pedal better (stiffer crank/bottom bracket), absorb bumps better (especially suspension forks) and so on.

So it's not just weight. More money is better in other ways too. However I'd never advise anyone to spend more than they feel comfortable with in pursuit or weight, shift performance, or anything else.

amkaos 03-14-12 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talldog (Post 13968394)
My 7.9FX weighs 21 pounds if I remember correctly. My Giant FCR1 weighs almost a pound less. In comparison, the 7.5FX weighs 23.5 pounds. Lighter is always better, no matter what anyone says to the contrary. That being said, when dealing with flat bar road bike weights, it's more of a good, better, or best proposition. A few pounds of weight should not a deal breaker, or fun breaker, one way or the other.

PS: the benefit from the carbon fiber frame is not just weight. A large(r) part of it is ride quality.

thnx for the weight info.. your 7.5fx weighs less than the stock 7.5fx that i weighed using lbs's scales at 26.7#

dpeters11 03-14-12 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amkaos (Post 13967649)
believe it not no, i dont care atall about tuneups, adjustments, etc.. just process and fulfill the warranty and im good..sounds like the opposite of pita.

So you'll be doing all of your own maintenance? I mean, it's not rocket science, but there are two camps that don't care about tuneups and adjustments, and one of those is wrong :)

amkaos 03-14-12 11:53 AM

maintenance:: i do it regularly myself; it stays in tune. thanx

himespau 03-14-12 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amkaos (Post 13965928)
soo, google told me that a lbs that i knew of dealt in 3 brands i consider.

they were still closed, i was going in that neighborhood around opening time so i didnt call.

all they had was trek nothing else.. i was told that No shop carried trek + giant because of contractual agreements.

i know for sure that another lbs does carry both brands..

they exactly got attitude when i corrected their info about 7.9fx being currently offered.

after looking it up, they seemed to remr that it was killed off because it weighed more than 7.7 fx.. because the carbon frame had to be much thicker.. this exchange was w/ the manager.. previously, i weighed a 7.6fx frame -- 26.7 #

i was also told that different levels fx frames geometrys are diff... jeebus..

seemed like the stupidest thing i ever heard but i dont care so i didnt care..

they said they have a 7.9 fx frame in the store. by all this time i dont care what they have, not gonna do business there.

maybe i shouldda asked how much and what size tho..

its a good thing the 6 shops i went to dont need my fan support..
probabilities say that im now @ 86% to buy through nets.. just acuz i cannot support these lbs and i only have like 1 more to check..


short version == does anyone know how much 7.9 fx weighs?
no biggie
thanx

wut?


This give me headaches.

Lonstar 03-15-12 10:41 PM

I have two Trek 7.9FX bikes, a 2007 and a 2011, and I bought both of them new. The '07 was stolen, so I replaced it with a '11, and then the '07 was recovered. Both of them have 22.5" frames.

The '07 has been modified with:
An aftermarket seat that is larger and much more padded that the stock seat. It weighs a lot more than the stock seat.
Aftermarket pedals; one side for regular shoes, the other side for clipless shoes, They weigh a little more than the stock pedals.
The stock 700x28 tires were replaced with 700x32 tires. Not sure of the weight difference.
Deluxe model Ergon grips with bar ends. I'm sure they're heavier than stock, but it's probably minimal.

The '11 is completely stock, I haven't replaced anything on it.

The '07 weighs 23 pounds.
The '11 weighs 20 pounds.

My wife has a '11 Trek 7.6 with a 17.5" frame. It's completely stock and weighs 23 pounds.

So far, I like the '07 better, it's my baby. I've spent very little time on the '11, I only ride when it's warm and I got it right before winter. The police recovered my '07 about a month ago.

Talldog and ColinL are exactly right ~ 1) a full carbon bike isn't just about weight, there's also a difference in ride quality. 2) the components on a bike with a carbon frame are going to be better grade. Win/win.

I've owned lesser bikes and can say without question that a lighter bike with better components makes a big difference. The 7.9 is an absolute joy to ride, I can't express that enough. In my opinion, the Trek 7.9FX is the best Hybrid bike you can't buy (because they no longer make it).


What size is the frame of the 7.9 you found at your LBS? After what I went through to find my '11 7.9, I might be interested if you don't buy it.

amkaos 03-16-12 09:07 AM

im gonna call for frame size.

no matter what they say there is 90% chance i wont buy even if it is my size.

this store was the worst i ever saw about knowledge -- even their own inventory.

wouldnt surprise me atall if they actually dont have one .. i would put that at 50/50.

what size you want ?

if i can do you any good, i will pm you w/ their number.

Lonstar 03-16-12 04:23 PM

If you really want a 7.9, and they have one in the size you're looking for, you better go for it. The chances of you finding another one are slim.

Trek dealers aren't allowed to sell a new bike over the phone and then ship it, you have to go into the store and buy it in person. When my '07 was stolen in August of last year, I went onto Treks website and got the phone numbers for the Trek dealers in my area (central PA). When I found that none of them had a 7.9 (in any size), I called over 50 dealers along the east coast, from South Carolina to Vermont. Nothing. I thought for sure I'd find one around NYC or Long Island, but no one stocked it in any size. I starting calling bike shops in cities all around the US that friends or family lived near (because someone had to go to the shop to buy it). Chicago, Oklahoma City, Orlando, Houston, Phoenix, Las Vegas...nothing. I finally found a bike shop in Redwood City (just outside of San Fran) that had both a 20" and a 22.5" in stock. My sister lives in San Fran, so she went to the shop and bought it, and then they shipped it to me.

I'd like to by a 17.5" for my wife. Where is the bike shop located?

amkaos 03-17-12 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonstar (Post 13980642)
If you really want a 7.9, and they have one in the size you're looking for, you better go for it. The chances of you finding another one are slim.

Trek dealers aren't allowed to sell a new bike over the phone and then ship it, you have to go into the store and buy it in person. When my '07 was stolen in August of last year, I went onto Treks website and got the phone numbers for the Trek dealers in my area (central PA). When I found that none of them had a 7.9 (in any size), I called over 50 dealers along the east coast, from South Carolina to Vermont. Nothing. I thought for sure I'd find one around NYC or Long Island, but no one stocked it in any size. I starting calling bike shops in cities all around the US that friends or family lived near (because someone had to go to the shop to buy it). Chicago, Oklahoma City, Orlando, Houston, Phoenix, Las Vegas...nothing. I finally found a bike shop in Redwood City (just outside of San Fran) that had both a 20" and a 22.5" in stock. My sister lives in San Fran, so she went to the shop and bought it, and then they shipped it to me.

I'd like to by a 17.5" for my wife. Where is the bike shop located?

me: cvan you check if you have 7.9fx in your store?
them: hang on,,,,yes we have one.. carbon frame, right?

by now i wanna see what all carbon bike is like.. they just bout 6mi away

me: k, i ll be in..
them: ok, sir . ty.

10 min later me: calling bout 7.9-- you know what size?

different person, them: i ll check... sir we dont have one, i d have to order it..

me: nm .. ty bye.

them: ty sir..

typical of this place..


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