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Old 05-15-12, 09:21 PM
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Looking To Purchase my First Hybrid

I'm looking to purchase a new bike to mostly use on pavement. I live in California (LA) and would like to take advantage of the awesome weather and ride around places like the Santa Monica Pier and other locations in the city. I went to my local bike shop and told the guy what I was looking to do -- ride for recreation, exercise, etc. He said that I should look at the Trek Navigator (2.0/3.0) over hybrid bikes (he called the Navigator a 'recreational' bike).

https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes...avigator_2_0/#
https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes...avigator_3_0/#

However, I'm a bit worried that the Navigators won't be good for long rides. Most of the reading I've done has mentioned hybrids as the way to go. Are there any other bikes I should be looking at? It looks like most of the stores around here carry either Trek or Specialized bikes. What models from those two brands should I look at? I've read a lot about Jamis too and could probably find a retailer around here.

I'm not completely sure what I'm going to use the bike for yet. I definitely want to ride on the bike paths and trails in my area. I certainly want to use it for fitness. There's no chance I'll ever use it for my commute to work, but I could see myself running errands with my bike. I very much doubt I'll be mountain biking, but if I end up wanting to do so, I'll purchase a mountain bike.

Any suggestions? My budget is around $600 (though I could do $800 if there were features I would absolutely miss if I only spent $600). I'd really like a bike I can grow into and perhaps upgrade the parts over time, etc. instead of purchasing a complete starter bike that I'll hate in a year. I'd rather buy something I can grow into than buy a Wal-Mart type bike that I can't/wouldn't want to upgrade

Thank you very much!
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Old 05-16-12, 01:07 AM
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The navigator has a more upright riding position and fatter tires. It might be a better choice for the kind of riding you want to do. The fatter tires will have a smoother ride and will be able to handle curbs or other obstructions. Not sure what you mean by "longer rides". I think you should test ride the FX series (the 7.2 seems to be at the right price range) and compare it to the Navigator. Does you prefer the more upright riding position? Or the more leaned over position of the FX? Have you considered looking on Craigslist?
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Welcome To Bike Forums, Fourier!

You've mentioned the fact that you have no desire to commute with your new bike. You've also expressed an interest in primarily using your bike for the purposes of recreation and exercise. Apparently, you'd like to cruise around the Santa Moinca Pier and ride the bike trails in your area.

All of this type of riding is strictly local. Once you indicated that you were afraid that the Trek Navigator might not be the appropriate bike for long distances, you then threw me off track. Furthermore, you admit that you're not quite sure what all your intended uses will be for your new bike, but you're certain that you want a bike into which you can eventually grow, that has quality components.

Well one thing for certain, the Trek Navigator is NOT a long distance bike. For long distances, you'd want a road bike with drop handlebars and narrower tires than the Navigator. Of course, there are some hybrids that when outfitted with bar ends, can do longer distances, too.

IMO,something like the Trek 7.3FX, the Cannondale Quick 4, the Schwinn Sporterra Comp, or the Jamis Coda Comp, would fulfill all of your already stated recreational and exercise needs. Many cyclists use these types of bikes for distance, as well. These hybrids are a step above comfort hybrids, in terms of providing greater versatility and efficiency in performance. While most comfort hybrids tend to be somewhat low in the quality of their componentry, the performance hybrids can go a few tiers higher.

IMO, if you're determined to do some distance riding, as well as traversing the bike trails, and cruising the Santa Monica Pier, a more performance oriented hybrid would be more appropriate for you.

I therefore, recommend the following:

1) The Schwinn Sporterra Comp ~ $660
www.schwinnbikes.com/bikes/hybrid/2012-sporterra-comp-mens-14564/

2) The Cannondale Quick 4 ~ $700
www.cannondale.com/2012/bikes/recreation-urban/recreation/quick/2012-quick-4-21002

3) The Trek 7.4FX ~ $800
www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes/town/fitness/fx/7_4_fx/

4) The Trek 7.3FX ~ $690
www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes/town/fitness/fx/7_3_fx/

5) The Jamis Coda Comp ~ $775
www.jamisbikes.com/usa/thebikes/street/coda/12_codacomp.html


*The 7.4FX and the Coda Comp are 9 speeds. The others are all 8 speeds.

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Old 05-16-12, 06:07 AM
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I'll throw this in, have a 7.5 fx and love it. With bar ends there are many hand positions, and should satisfy my needs for a long time.
I had a riser installed to get the bars up, after I lose some weight the riser goes. You could put 28's the the 7.4 after the 32's wear out.

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Old 05-16-12, 01:21 PM
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I would say the Trek 7000 series is a better fit than the Navigator for the type of riding you plan to do (I've owned both.) Both have relaxed, upright riding positions but the 7000 series has skinnier 700C tires for higher average speeds on pavement. At your budget I'd spring for the 7300 to get the trigger shifters vs the twist grips on the lower models.

The FX series (which I currently own) is more of a performance hybrid. If you're starting from scratch the more leaned over position won't feel as comfortable as the other two. IME, most people who start out on upright bikes like the 7000 series eventually end up on something like the FX (or even a road bike) if they really get into cycling. As your fitness and flexibility improves a more leaned over position won't feel uncomfortable. That's sort of a long-winded way of saying a bike that feels great today may feel like it's holding you back in 6 months time.

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Old 05-16-12, 05:54 PM
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https://www.performancebike.com/bikes...64_-1___400316
There's a lot of Performance Bicycle stores in California. Go and test out one. Best bang for your bucks and is very fast and light.
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Old 05-16-12, 11:39 PM
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All,

Thank you very much for the replies. When I say long distances, I don't mean 100's of miles. More like 20-25 miles to start, maybe up to 50 once I get into biking shape.

I guess the main question I have is: what are the discriminators I should be looking for in bikes priced $600-$800? I've read on these forums that suspension isn't important... is there anything else? Materials, components to watch for, etc? I'll be test riding all the bikes, but I'd like to make sure I don't choose Trek Model A over Trek Model B because of $200 and miss out on some component that is close to a must-have or something I'd want in six months.

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Old 05-17-12, 04:39 PM
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When purchasing a bike. Look for comfort, good components and what type of road is the bike good for. Look for thinner tires when looking to be more on pavements and roads. Like around 23-32mm tires. Suspensions adds weight, slows you down, raise up the price of the bike and is not needed unless you are planing on doing at least 50% off roads.
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Fourier, what shop did you go to?

Helen's (Santa Monica, Westwood, Venice) carries mostly Trek. You've seen Treks, so I imagine you're kind of familiar with what they would have.

Wheel World in Culver City is a Giant and Kona dealer. Giant have some nice looking bikes that get very good reviews and comments from people on here. You may want to check out these:

Escape 2 ($420 MSRP): https://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-us/....2/8910/48614/
Escape 1 ($530 MSRP): https://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-us/....1/8910/48613/
Via 2 ($520 MSRP): https://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-us/....2/9017/48862/

Kona Dew ($489 MSRP): https://www.konaworld.com/asphalt_com...?content=dew#1

REI also has some nice introductory hybrid models in their stores.
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My vote goes for the quick 4.

I test rode one of these but I wanted something with front suspension...and didn't really like the look of the CX - (ended up with another brand).

So if the OP doesn't care about suspension the Quick 4 is awesome.
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It would be good if you started your own thread. If you aren't planning on doing at least 50% off roads, then don't get a bike with suspensions. Suspensions add weight and slow down the bike. Especially on pavements. Plus it makes the bike cost more. Probably around $100 more than a bike with no suspensions and has the same components etc. Also if doing most pavements. Look for a bike with narrow tires. Like 23-32mm.
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I know 4 people who routinely ride their Trek Navigators on 30 mile bike trail rides and love them. I ride Wisconsin's bike trails and see a lot of Navigators on them, along with a lot of Trek 7x00 comfort bikes.

50 miles seems a bit long on those bikes, because it would take so long to cover that distance. Up to 30 or so, I would have no concerns as long as you are okay with it taking about 3 hours.
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Originally Posted by Tom Bombadil View Post
I know 4 people who routinely ride their Trek Navigators on 30 mile bike trail rides and love them. I ride Wisconsin's bike trails and see a lot of Navigators on them, along with a lot of Trek 7x00 comfort bikes.

50 miles seems a bit long on those bikes, because it would take so long to cover that distance. Up to 30 or so, I would have no concerns as long as you are okay with it taking about 3 hours.
I did 30 miles today within 2 hrs.
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Cool name-- electrical engineer? I'd vote fx series. I don't think you'd find the position hard to get used to, and it will work much better for the 30 and 50 mile rides you mention. I started with a more upright bike (trek 7200). I still ride it, but I had to change a lot of things on it. I would have been better off starting with a bike designed for longer rides.
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Cool name-- electrical engineer? I'd vote fx series. I don't think you'd find the position hard to get used to, and it will work much better for the 30 and 50 mile rides you mention. I started with a more upright bike (trek 7200). I still ride it, but I had to change a lot of things on it. I would have been better off starting with a bike designed for longer rides.
Yup! Electrical engineer.

Thank you for the advice, everyone. I will go try out all of the aforementioned bikes.
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I did 30 miles today within 2 hrs.
On a Trek Navigator? If so, that's pretty good.
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On a Trek Navigator? If so, that's pretty good.
LOL, no on my Fuji Absolute 2.0
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Thanks again for the advice, everyone! I ended up going with the Cannondale Quick 4. Test rode a bunch of bikes including Quick 3/4, Trek FX 7.2/7.3, Giant Escape, and the Specialized Sirrus.

I wasn't thrilled with the Escape, I liked the FX 7.2/7.3 and Sirrus, and I loved the Quick 3/4. The Quick 3 was a bit more than I wanted to spend, so I got the Quick 4 for $600, which I thought was pretty good. I bought a helmet and two water bottles (didn't use them on my first ride because I want to wash them first).

Rode it home from the LBS (~5 miles) and it felt great. I'll probably pick up some gloves since my hands were drenched, but other than that, I just need a chain & lock.

I've attached a pic of the new bike.



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Congrats, Fourier!

All you need now is a lock, a helmet, and some legit water bottles!
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Thanks! I have a helmet and water bottles - any suggestions for a lock?
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Congrats on the new bike Fourier! You did the right thing by test riding all of the brands and found the one you love! Gloves are a good investment. They protect your hands if you fall, they absorb sweat so your hands don't slip, and they also have padding which absorb road vibrations.
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Thanks! I have a helmet and water bottles - any suggestions for a lock?
The New York Fahgettaboudit U lock and a Kryptonite 2510 cable key lock, together in combo will be a great defense.
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.......... I ended up going with the Cannondale Quick 4.......
Congrats on our new bike!!!! Good choice. All the bikes that you rode are good quality bikes, glad to see that you found the one that "fits" you!!! I have the Cannondale CX3 and just love this bike!!!
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Congrats on a great choice! I love the Quick series myself. They have quite a nice ride, don't they?

Oh, and the Quick 4 made Bycycling Magazine's Hybrid of the Year for 2012. Enjoy your riding!
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