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Old 09-15-17, 02:15 PM   #1426
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LBS is telling me I'm a 21" on the DS3, but according to the Trek sizing I'm a 19". I'm 5'11 1/2, 6' on a good day. Should I side with the LBS, the size chart, or ride both and see if one feels better?

I'm 5'-8" and own a DS3 19".....test road a 21" but the 19" was a much better fit, the 21" was a too big. I also changed the stock 90mm 7 degree stem to a 90mm 17 degree stem as it got me that last bit of comfort I was looking for. Can't tell you which is the correct size but guessing I think the 21" would be appropriate..... you need to ride both to be certain and pick the one that feels best....also you can do some small changes with stems to fine tune your comfort along with saddle adjustments or better yet ditch the DS3 saddle, it sucks and get something better.
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Old 09-19-17, 05:54 PM   #1427
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I'm 5' 10" 3/4 very close to 5' 11" without shoes and I went with the 21" DS 8.3.........

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Old 09-21-17, 04:17 AM   #1428
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I own trek 8.6 ds with original 700x38c.
For me it's ok on a road and off road but I would like to see the differences on thinner tires.
What tire size do you prefer for road and off road instead of my?
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Old 09-21-17, 08:49 PM   #1429
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For road & off-road combo riding it’s tough to improve on the 700x38c, I suppose it (smaller than 38s) depends greatly on what type of off-road surface material you ride on and the range of particle size. For strictly road cycling I prefer 700x35 over the 700x32 perhaps by a slim margin, especially in the winter. The last 3 Ĺ years I’ve tried the Panaracer Pasela PT Urban Commute, Panasonic Panaracer Tserv PT, Vittorio Revolution, Bontrager LT3 and the DS Bontrager LT1 all pretty good tires. However, most of these have drastic (70%-85%) rear tire tread lost at that magic 1200-mile mark/range with the Vittorio Revolution only lasting about 750 miles or so. For the first time, I’m riding on Schwalbe Marathon 700x35. Pretty spunky with a nice roll, approaching 1000 miles with quite a bit of tread left. I really haven’t lost much in time on some of my timed elevation (road asphalt) sprint rides, I would purchase the Schwalbe Marathons again, pleasantly surprised. The Marathons are not very difficult to mount especially if you let sit in the sun for a couple hours first. Have fun & ride…ride…ride!
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Old 10-02-17, 06:01 PM   #1430
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Hello - Just finished all 58 pages of this thread and had a few questions from you aficionados. Forgive me if I seem like an idiot. I'm looking to get back into biking and getting in shape,late 40's, too much beer and pizza,etc. I've been really going haywire with research and I think I'm leaning towards a DS by Trek. Last bike-for a short time- was a 2005 Trek 4300 MB which I loved but sold when I bought a classic Corvette. I plan on doing 70 pct road and 30 pct trail/off road. As of now I'm interested in a DS 1 or DS 2. Although I learned the difference btwn a 3 and 4, I'm not sure how much difference there is regarding the 1 and 2. And then there is the interest in a MB. Even though I'm not into scaling mountains, I loved the whole set up of my previous bike,esp the knobby tires and the freedom to get dirty and nasty off road. I basically would like to know the big difference between the dual and mountain bikes generally speaking from people with experience and the DS 1 vs DS 2 comparison specifically. Also I am 6'2" 208lbs. I Would like to keep the budget to 500 or so. I want to thank you in advance. I really enjoyed reading all these posts from page 1.
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Old 10-02-17, 10:55 PM   #1431
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Hello - Just finished all 58 pages of this thread and had a few questions from you aficionados. Forgive me if I seem like an idiot. I'm looking to get back into biking and getting in shape,late 40's, too much beer and pizza,etc. I've been really going haywire with research and I think I'm leaning towards a DS by Trek. Last bike-for a short time- was a 2005 Trek 4300 MB which I loved but sold when I bought a classic Corvette. I plan on doing 70 pct road and 30 pct trail/off road. As of now I'm interested in a DS 1 or DS 2. Although I learned the difference btwn a 3 and 4, I'm not sure how much difference there is regarding the 1 and 2. And then there is the interest in a MB. Even though I'm not into scaling mountains, I loved the whole set up of my previous bike,esp the knobby tires and the freedom to get dirty and nasty off road. I basically would like to know the big difference between the dual and mountain bikes generally speaking from people with experience and the DS 1 vs DS 2 comparison specifically. Also I am 6'2" 208lbs. I Would like to keep the budget to 500 or so. I want to thank you in advance. I really enjoyed reading all these posts from page 1.
Welcome to the forum and glad you enjoyed the read. I have the DS4 but I can share with you what I saw in the DS1 & 2 when I was looking into the DS line. I too came from mountain biking and XC riding but with age and injury so comes the life changes. The real differences of the DS2 that I compared were the lockout fork, the 8 speed drivetrain and hydraulic brakes. Other than that there no meaningful differences. So with that if you're considering one of the two I would suggest the DS2 for those features. Mechanical brakes work just fine but when riding on paved trails you really want to lockout that fork. Most of the other stuff, like pedals and the seat, you would probably want to change no matter what version of the bike you get. As far as the bikes capabilities I can tell you that I ride trails in the desert that range from paved to mild single track and I have not had one single issue with the bike performing nor its ability to handle the ride. And although I got the DS4 I still made significant changes to the components mostly because I already had the parts but its much more tailored to me now and I cant imagine riding anything else for the foreseeable future. I hope this helps some.
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Old 10-03-17, 05:33 AM   #1432
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The real differences of the DS2 that I compared were the lockout fork, the 8 speed drivetrain and hydraulic brakes. Other than that there no meaningful differences.
I think one of the biggest things the DS 2 has going for it over the DS 1 is the cassette vs. freewheel. A cassette system is inherently stronger and generally superior over a freewheel. At less than $600, the DS 2, with the other items listed above, is a pretty fair value.
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Old 10-04-17, 04:27 PM   #1433
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Hello - Just finished all 58 pages of this thread and had a few questions from you aficionados. Forgive me if I seem like an idiot. I'm looking to get back into biking and getting in shape,late 40's, too much beer and pizza,etc. I've been really going haywire with research and I think I'm leaning towards a DS by Trek. Last bike-for a short time- was a 2005 Trek 4300 MB which I loved but sold when I bought a classic Corvette. I plan on doing 70 pct road and 30 pct trail/off road. As of now I'm interested in a DS 1 or DS 2. Although I learned the difference btwn a 3 and 4, I'm not sure how much difference there is regarding the 1 and 2. And then there is the interest in a MB. Even though I'm not into scaling mountains, I loved the whole set up of my previous bike,esp the knobby tires and the freedom to get dirty and nasty off road. I basically would like to know the big difference between the dual and mountain bikes generally speaking from people with experience and the DS 1 vs DS 2 comparison specifically. Also I am 6'2" 208lbs. I Would like to keep the budget to 500 or so. I want to thank you in advance. I really enjoyed reading all these posts from page 1.
I had the same question when I bought mine. For me the difference between the feel of the mechanical brakes and the hydraulic brakes was enough to make me want the 2. I also have really come to appreciate the locking fork when riding the road or smooth trails.
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Old 10-04-17, 05:16 PM   #1434
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jase33,hokiefyd and Brooke1687.....Thank you very much. Def leaning towards the DS 2 with a few small upgrades thrown in. A little over my budget but its ok. I did notice the price on these particular bikes considerably higher at various online shops vs. the Trek website. Hopefully someone honors the actual list price at the least.
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Old 10-06-17, 07:53 AM   #1435
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I am 6ft and have the 21" DS 2.I love it bought it in June and now have 1400 miles on it.Pictured here with quick release rear rack.

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Old 10-06-17, 04:33 PM   #1436
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jase33,hokiefyd and Brooke1687.....Thank you very much. Def leaning towards the DS 2 with a few small upgrades thrown in. A little over my budget but its ok. I did notice the price on these particular bikes considerably higher at various online shops vs. the Trek website. Hopefully someone honors the actual list price at the least.
Thatís strange. I bought mine from an actual Trek store, but I checked a couple of other shops before and they were the same. I think the 2 is just under $600 right now. Hopefully you can find the one you want.
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Thatís strange. I bought mine from an actual Trek store, but I checked a couple of other shops before and they were the same. I think the 2 is just under $600 right now. Hopefully you can find the one you want.
It is odd. A place in Princeton NJ that Iím partial to has it for 659.00 just to name one. Oh well.
Iíll find one somewhere else.
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Old 10-06-17, 08:19 PM   #1438
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It is odd. A place in Princeton NJ that Iím partial to has it for 659.00 just to name one. Oh well.
Iíll find one somewhere else.
Wow, that's crazy. Definitely go somewhere else.
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Old 10-07-17, 06:40 AM   #1439
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It is odd. A place in Princeton NJ that Iím partial to has it for 659.00 just to name one. Oh well.
Iíll find one somewhere else.
$659 is what I paid for mine, it was the price on the new 2017, but theyíve lowered the price on the 2018s. Maybe your store hasnít caught up? But they should be offering discounts if they still have 2017s in stock.
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I'm picking up my DS 8.4 viper red tomorrow! Really looking forward to my commutes and joy rides! Perhaps I'll post some pics too
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I'm picking up my DS 8.4 viper red tomorrow! Really looking forward to my commutes and joy rides! Perhaps I'll post some pics too
You know it's federal law that you have to post pictures of a new bike on BikeForums, right?
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5 ft 9 in and went with a 17.5 DS3. Rode the 19 and it feel much larger, then again I'm used to mountain bikes with ample stand over clearance. Will be doing some light off roading with with the DS-3 so I prefer a little more stand over clearance.
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