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Old 08-08-14, 11:54 AM
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Clicking and creaking on newish bike

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I have a Merida Crossway 100 which I love. I have had it for about 3.5 months from new. I have noticed recently that there is an audible click when I stand to accelerate or sit to accelerate. The click corresponds to the downward thrust of my right leg. Over the last couple of days, the click has evolved into a louder splintering creak when I push down with my right leg. The sound appears to come from either the pedals section or central bearing section or maybe the front gear area. I can't replicate the sound when off the bike as I can't generate the downward force with my hands. My guess is that something is flexing more than it should, or maybe something is dry, like the bearing? Interestingly, today I had a 20 mile ride in the pouring rain (quite enjoyed it)! When the bike got wet, the creaking and clicking reduced to a minimum, to the point where I no longer noticed it.
Anyone else had a similar experience? maybe someone experienced in the make-up of modern bikes can offer an explanation of what might be causing the creaking noise and how to remedy it.
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Old 08-08-14, 12:26 PM
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Everything you said EXACTLY describes what's going on with my diamondback. I don't like riding in rain but got caught in some heavy rain for 10-20 mins and my splintery-creak was gone too.

Mine's in warranty and I took it to the store a few days ago, guy there thinks it's the bottom-bracket (the bearing in the middle) and they are ordering a warranty one.
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first things that come to mind when you have a squeak in the area you are describing is to check to make sure the pedals are tight. Then check to see if there is play in the crank. You can test it by grabbing both arms and seeing if you can produce any movement or play in the crank set.

Sometimes what will happen is a new bike will have a crank arm losen up a bit with use and it needs to be retightend, other times it has been happening so long that the crank arm gets warped. Then there is always a chance that the bottom bracket (where the arms attach) is loose. If the bottom bracket has play in it you might have done a lot of damage to it by riding it and it could need new bearings...ect. it could also be a loose chain ring bolt, so you'd want to check those as well.

But before you get too worried, just check to see if everything is tight. If it is, then there is an outside chance you have a bad bearing in pedal which is easy to fix.

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Originally Posted by mcrow
first things that come to mind when you have a squeak in the area you are describing is to check to make sure the pedals are tight. Then check to see if there is play in the crank. You can test it by grabbing both arms and seeing if you can produce any movement or play in the crank set.

Sometimes what will happen is a new bike will have a crank arm losen up a bit with use and it needs to be retightend, other times it has been happening so long that the crank arm gets warped. Then there is always a chance that the bottom bracket (where the arms attach) is loose. If the bottom bracket has play in it you might have done a lot of damage to it by riding it and it could need new bearings...ect. it could also be a loose chain ring bolt, so you'd want to check those as well.

But before you get too worried, just check to see if everything is tight. If it is, then there is an outside chance you have a bad bearing in pedal which is easy to fix.
Have checked the crank, it seems OK. The bracket seems OK two. That leaves the pedals. How do I fix the bearing? Is it simply a case of replacing the bearing? Is there a definitive test I can do to check whether the pedal bearing is bad?

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Originally Posted by Rubystar
Have checked the crank, it seems OK. The bracket seems OK two. That leaves the pedals. How do I fix the bearing? Is it simply a case of replacing the bearing? Is there a definitive test I can do to check whether the pedal bearing is bad?

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Well, if the pedal is tight then it could be the pedal bearing. Best thing in that case is to just replace them as most stock pedals are not very good to begin with. Also, make sure to check the chain ring bolts, they can cause that sort of issue as well if they are loose.

Hopefully it's just the pedal and not that whoever assembled it cross threading the pedal and ruining the arm.

Keep in mind that this does not rule out the bottom bracket being bad, sometimes they can feel tight but have bad bearings anyway. If you replace the pedals and still have the issue I'd take it the LBS to be checked.
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Originally Posted by mcrow
Well, if the pedal is tight then it could be the pedal bearing. Best thing in that case is to just replace them as most stock pedals are not very good to begin with. Also, make sure to check the chain ring bolts, they can cause that sort of issue as well if they are loose.

Hopefully it's just the pedal and not that whoever assembled it cross threading the pedal and ruining the arm.

Keep in mind that this does not rule out the bottom bracket being bad, sometimes they can feel tight but have bad bearings anyway. If you replace the pedals and still have the issue I'd take it the LBS to be checked.

I am going to ride over to the dealer this week to have it checked out. Will report back.

On a different subject, got my first road bike yesterday. A new Cube Peloton Race. Wow! I took it out for the first time last evening, before the tail of Hurricane Bertha reached the UK. Did the same 20 mile local route I used to do on my Hybrid and did it in 12 minutes less. For the same energy output, my new bike just flies! Bearing in mind I am 56, overweight by 28 lbs, and unfit, only had a Hybrid bike for 3.5 months after 40 years without one, I have been out on the bike almost every day for 3.5 months gradually getting faster and riding longer distances. I am managing between 25 to 30 miles every day now on the Hybrid, so I have got used to the work load. The Cube road bike was an alien experience but got used to it quickly, and the speed for the same energy was considerable. Left home at 20.20pm and returned home at 21.30. Might not seem fast for an experienced rider, but for me that is fast!
The most noticeable differences to my body over the Hybrid was a bit of a neck ache round the back of the neck, just under the bottom of the skull, due no doubt to the head position, and more discomfort in the hands, (got numb quicker and found I had to change hand positions quite regularly).
Just watching the London race on TV today. Hat's off to those guys who can do 100 miles at the speed they are going!

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Often enough, the cause of the creak on a low mileage bike isn't a worn component. A tiny bit of grit that has worked it's way into the BB threads or the crankset/spindle interface can create creaks.

New bikes typically ship from the factory to dealer with the BB and crankset installed. It's not uncommon for the factory to not apply enough grease or anti-seize on the BB threads. These dry threads can and do create the described creaking after a short while. Some shops will pull remove and reinstall the BB with sufficient thread treatment prior to delivery to new owner.

Unless I had reason to suspect the BB was failing, I would just remove and reinstall the crankset and BB correctly. But I would only do this after I isolated the BB area as the source of noise.
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Originally Posted by Rubystar
The most noticeable differences to my body over the Hybrid was a bit of a neck ache round the back of the neck, just under the bottom of the skull, due no doubt to the head position, and more discomfort in the hands, (got numb quicker and found I had to change hand positions quite regularly).
Congrats on the new bike (and the still mostly new one). It should be a lot of fun.

With regard to the neck soreness, I'll recommend something I read about in the bike fit forum related to posture: try tightening your core muscles and straightening your back. When your back is arched (as is often instinctive with drop bars), the top part of your back is actually rotated forward, which means your neck has to bend further back in relation to your shoulders. If you straighten your back more, your shoulders and upper back won't be rotated as far forward, and you won't have to bend your neck back as far to get the same view of the road. You can even try this out while sitting in your desk chair if you lean forward. (Don't go so far that your back curves in the other direction - that's not good for you either).

Similarly, if you tighten your core muscles, you may find that it helps take a little weight off your hands and reduces the discomfort.
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Originally Posted by desertdork
Often enough, the cause of the creak on a low mileage bike isn't a worn component. A tiny bit of grit that has worked it's way into the BB threads or the crankset/spindle interface can create creaks.

New bikes typically ship from the factory to dealer with the BB and crankset installed. It's not uncommon for the factory to not apply enough grease or anti-seize on the BB threads. These dry threads can and do create the described creaking after a short while. Some shops will pull remove and reinstall the BB with sufficient thread treatment prior to delivery to new owner.

Unless I had reason to suspect the BB was failing, I would just remove and reinstall the crankset and BB correctly. But I would only do this after I isolated the BB area as the source of noise.
Took the bike back to the store as the noise was getting louder. They asked me to go back the following day as they didn't want me to wait (probably didn't want me to see)! When I picked the bike up, turns out the noise came from the stem being a bit dry and not being as tight as it should be. They lubricated and tightened it and according to the store, that did the trick. I am somewhat puzzled by this. After extensive testing of my own, the noise came from the bottom bracket area. I was told by the store that the noise can seem to come from lots of places on the bike, however I made specific tests at home and could pinpoint the sound to be from the bracket area. There was also a slight creak if you flexed the handlebars, but that was pretty obvious where that noise came from, certainly nowhere near the same area as the main creaking noise. The store charged me a smallish amount for labour. I would have thought this came under warranty, but the store guy (a salesman) said that even new bikes would show this sort of noise after a dry summer. My own opinion was that the bottom bracket was either faulty or dry from not being lubricated in the first place, but saying it was another place allowed them to charge me. Anyone else heard of a creaking stem that is dry and produces a sound from the bottom bracket??

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He could be right. Sounds resonate through the tubes. I was convinced my BB was stuffed but turned out to be a loose cassette. Same on my friend's bike. Interestingly, if you want to listen to worn wheel bearings, spin the wheel and listen through your saddle. True!

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Sounds resonate through the tubes. I was convinced my BB was stuffed but turned out to be a loose cassette. Same on my friend's bike. Interestingly, if you want to listen to worn wheel bearings, spin the wheel and listen through your saddle.
I agree re sounds resonating thru the frame to a different location.

Embarrassing incident - I thought my bike was suffering from 'creaks' emanating from general area of the crank when I was pushing harder than normal. LBS mechanic listened to me as I described symptoms - as an afterthought I mentioned there was no creaking on the few occasions I stood up on the pedals when climbing the hills. He immediately grabbed the seat and reproduced the sounds. Simple tightening on the seat clamps eliminated the creaks (but not my embarrassment). Perhaps if I live long enough I may stop embarrassing myself?
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My Sirrus does that too, creaks and moans that come and go. I don't even check or try to fix any of them. Its like a bi polar bike with sounds.
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Before going through to much pain with the bottom bracket. Lube the seat post and lube your pedals. Make sure they spin properly. I experienced this with a new bike recently and after much chagrin determined it was the pedals. Drove me crazy for weeks.
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Originally Posted by Rubystar
Took the bike back to the store as the noise was getting louder. They asked me to go back the following day as they didn't want me to wait (probably didn't want me to see)! When I picked the bike up, turns out the noise came from the stem being a bit dry and not being as tight as it should be. They lubricated and tightened it and according to the store, that did the trick. I am somewhat puzzled by this. After extensive testing of my own, the noise came from the bottom bracket area. I was told by the store that the noise can seem to come from lots of places on the bike, however I made specific tests at home and could pinpoint the sound to be from the bracket area. There was also a slight creak if you flexed the handlebars, but that was pretty obvious where that noise came from, certainly nowhere near the same area as the main creaking noise. The store charged me a smallish amount for labour. I would have thought this came under warranty, but the store guy (a salesman) said that even new bikes would show this sort of noise after a dry summer. My own opinion was that the bottom bracket was either faulty or dry from not being lubricated in the first place, but saying it was another place allowed them to charge me. Anyone else heard of a creaking stem that is dry and produces a sound from the bottom bracket??

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Has the creaking noise now stopped?
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I've kind of had this on my month-old bike...but its moreso a clicking like a louder sound of when you pedal backwards (like the sound a reel makes when a fish takes out line -- I'm a minnesotan so of course i'll make a fishing analogy). But it only happens on power strokes on the bottom 2 rear gears. I've had the stock pedals replaced (still researching which pedals to get) recently and it still happens. Not sure if this could be something different than previously mentioned but any thoughts?
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Originally Posted by ColonelSanders
Has the creaking noise now stopped?
Not completely. It still creaks a bit under downward pedal force from my right leg, but its better than it was. I can still make the handlebars creak if I flex them, and the sound emanates from the bars and not the bottom bracket!
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I hear popping and creaking noises when ever I ride, but it's not the bike making the noises ...
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