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Old 08-14-14, 09:04 AM
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how long do you give a new seat?

Hi all fairly new to cycling...

got a new specialised sirrus comp disc, the seat is painful! given it a week so far (70 miles) and it still hurts!!

the scott seat i had on my mtb before that was painful for a while, can't remember it this bad though... how long does it take to break one in, or should i just upgrade the saddle now?

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If you're new to cycling, it is more likely your butt needing the breaking in, not the seat. When you purchased the bike, did the shop give you a fitting to make sure the seat is positioned appropriately for your pedal stroke, sit bones, and arm angle? Since you are riding a newly purchased Specialized, I'm thinking you bought the bike at a decent shop.
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Hi Thanks for the reply, not sure i had a 'fitting', they spent a moment looking at me on the bike and adjusted the seat hight, but thats about it. It seemed a good shop, there are better around but i have been struggling to find the spec bike i wanted in the farm size i need this time of year everyone is running there stock down....

Maybe i need more time to run my butt in then lol.... is there anything i can adjust to make it more comfortable?

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The specs show the stock saddle is 155mm wide. Not particularly narrow as saddles go, but the contour or padding may not be right for you. You don't say what exactly hurts. Maybe it's not the saddle itself so much as the saddle angle or fore/aft position.

Might be worth swinging by the shop again with your bike to get their input. A stock saddle doesn't work for everyone.
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cool thanks, its the front of the bum if that makes sense?? ill pop past next chance i get, they seemed pretty supportive there... but that was when i was buying lol... thanks again for your help... do the cycling shorts / leggings with padding help?? not sure I'm ready for that yet lol but if it helps ill consider getting some?

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Are you wearing bike shorts with a chamois? Did your LBS have a buttometer to measure your sitting bones? It's possible the stock 155mm wide seat is too narrow, or too wide. Are you sure the seat is close to level, maybe tilted one direction or another causing issues?

I have the Comp Carbon Disc that came with the same Targa saddle as yours. Mine felt basically the same at mile 1 as mile 250. I recently switched it out for a Romin Expert Evo Gel and instantly it was WAY better! Something to think about.



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no haven't had my butt measured will get it done tho!! not wearing shorts yet, should i?? is it much better?? i will definitely look in to a new saddle then... how do you find your bike? i liked the thought of carbon but could justify the cash so early on in the hobby...
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Originally Posted by geraint84 View Post
no haven't had my butt measured will get it done tho!! not wearing shorts yet, should i?? is it much better?? i will definitely look in to a new saddle then... how do you find your bike? i liked the thought of carbon but could justify the cash so early on in the hobby...
Yes the bike shorts make a difference, chamois with some chamois butter and you will have more padding and less rubbing down there. Of course it also depends on how long you are riding in a single stint.

I love the Carbon Comp so far, it's light and fast.
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ill look in to the bike shorts then... I'm riding for a couple hours at the moment going about 20-25 miles a shot.... enjoying it, just need to start picking the pace up a bit now as I'm hoping to eventually do a 27 mile commute now and again and get the train home....
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Yeah for a 2 hour ride bike shorts are going to make a difference!
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ryto!! where do i get big ones!!! lol
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no haven't had my butt measured will get it done tho!! not wearing shorts yet, should i?? is it much better?? i will definitely look in to a new saddle then... how do you find your bike? i liked the thought of carbon but could justify the cash so early on in the hobby...
Cycling shorts with padding will cost about the same as a new saddle and will definitely help.
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Personally I don't find bike shorts to be necessary unless I am riding three hours or more. In any event in my experience the bike shorts (although I use padded cycling underwear under normal person's shorts instead) will help a lot to prevent saddle sores, skin abrasions, that develop on long rides but not so much with a seat that is almost immediately uncomfortable because your bike fit is poor, the seat is the wrong width for you, or the seat just isn't right for you.

I would go back to the shop and see what it takes for them to give you a good fit. When you buy from a brick and mortar store this is supposed to be part of the price you paid for the bike and if they did not have the time to do it the day you picked up the bike they should do it later on. Maybe they gave you such a good price they skipped the fitting? Maybe they are a bunch of bike mechanics who don't know how to do one? I don't know what the story is but if you have to pay for a fitting either there or somewhere else it is worth the money just to know that your bike is adjusted correctly for you. Shops vary, some excel at fittings, others may not know how to do them even though they are excellent shops otherwise. Wheel Werks in Crystal Lake, IL does excellent fits if you happen to live near there. A traditional fit comes free with your bike purchase and I think it is around $40 if you bring in a bike bought elsewhere. They offer a range of more exotic fits based on computerized technology for up to $250, maybe more, but unless you are a road racer or tri-athlete the basic fit should do you.

If a fit doesn't help and time on the saddle doesn't help then I don't think that modern metal/foam/plastic seats ever really do break in. They either work for you or they don't. Sometimes padded seat covers help, sometimes they don't. I guess I was blessed with a bum that tolerates pretty much any seat because I have never had trouble adjusting to a seat. Others go through a world of hurt before arriving at something they are comfortable on. However if the seat on your old bike worked for you, try something as similar to that as possible. Maybe the same model is still in production and you can put one on the new bike.

I just rode RAGBRAI and managed to break my seat while doing it! I probably rode at least 100 miles, maybe 200 before a riding buddy told me my seat was tilting to the right and suddenly I realized why my left cheek was getting so sore.... Turns out the seat wasn't just bent, the support rail was broken completely through on the right side. By centering the break in the seat clamp I was able to ride it the rest of the week with a lot of complaints from my left cheek that diminished only slightly once the right cheek started to carry its share of the load. But now I have done something I would never have done unless my old seat were broken: replace it with a Brooks leather seat. Now old fashioned leather seats do break in over time to conform to your butt, much as new leather shoes break in. Other than needing to adjust the leveling of the seat so it was just right to avoid sliding around too much on its slippery surface I have found it comfortable right out of the box after a whopping 28 miles. Legend has it that these seats ride like butter once they are broken in, which takes 300 to 1000 miles. I remain skeptical about that but so far it is as comfortable as my old one was so I am not complaining. Brooks are a little pricey but there certainly are modern seats that cost even more so they are well within the range of seat costs, just not near the bottom end. They are an option that work exceedingly well for many but not others so you could consider one. I expect to do fine on one but I am not expecting anything magical to happen. If it does then I guess I will join the First Church of the Brooks because many Brooks owners become quite religious about their choice of saddles.
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You can get padded MTB shorts if you're "not ready" for road shorts. They can be a bit long and baggy, hence prone to catching bottles and cages when mounting, though.

A Brooks isn't a bad option if commuting is on your radar (and theft isn't an issue). Seems to keep the sweat from being as much of an issue. And riding moderate distances w/o padded shorts is more comfortable than with plastic saddles.

After a couple hundred miles on a Brooks, it shouldn't feel so slippery. If you're keeping the nose a few degrees higher to control the feeling of sliding forward, you can try lowering the nose a tad once the saddle gets some "bite."
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I don't wear padded unless I'm riding 2+ hours and even then I usually forget to wear them anyway (or don't actually start off planning to ride that long )

Have you tried adjusting your seat? I've found now that it takes me about a month of tinkering ( around 24 rides and 400 km) to finally adjust a new saddle properly. Just a small adjustment to height, tilt or fore, aft can make a huge difference.

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It's completely possible that either you have a seat that doesn't fit your anatomy or is not properly adjusted for you. However, my guess is you need to give it more time - especially if you are just starting to ride. It takes a while for you body to adapt to the seat - and it can be quite uncomfortable until it does. I would give a month - and you need to be putting the miles on to get in shape.

As for shorts - I am a huge proponent of biking shorts. And don't get cheap ones! Biking shorts do more than just put padding between you and the seat. Especially on long rides, the chamois and the material that shorts are made of help wick away perspiration and bacteria that can cause rash and irritation. Also, don't wear anything under the shorts. The only thing between you and the saddle should be your biking shorts. And only wear them once between washing.

Try a pair. I can almost guarantee your rides will be much more enjoyable - and comfortable!
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I got a Brooks and never looked back. it was much more comfortable right out of the box than any other cycling saddle I tried
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That stock seat on the Sirrus bikes are god awful. Try Cannondale OEM seats every single one is so comfortable plus cheap on ebay.
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I recommend replacing the seat for one that does not have cut-outs. Those cut-outs are the source of the pain. At least they were for me - with or without cycling shorts, the sensitive parts got pinched in the cut-outs.
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See if there are any Brooks dealers in your area that has a Cambium loaner.
BFold of NYC let me try their Brooks C17 Cambium seat loaner. It was my 1st time
on a Brooks saddle and was very surprised how comfortable it was. I had this idea
that I'll only be comfortable on a seat with a cut out/channel, this seat changed my mind.

BROOKS C17 LOANER FROM BFOLD by 1nterceptor, on Flickr
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That stock seat on the Sirrus bikes are god awful. Try Cannondale OEM seats every single one is so comfortable plus cheap on ebay.
You got that right about the Specialized seats, they suck! I have a Sirrus Comp also and the seat he is talking about is pure torture. Sitting on a brick would probably be more comfortable.
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You got that right about the Specialized seats, they suck! I have a Sirrus Comp also and the seat he is talking about is pure torture. Sitting on a brick would probably be more comfortable.
...don't think you can paint all Specialized saddles with the same broad brush you just used, unless you want to include all seats of similar design in your statement. I agree that some aren't the best, particularly OEM saddles, I replaced the Specialized Targa that came with my Crosstrail with another Specialized seat called a Sonoma and it's been a great seat. We're all shaped differently so how one specific seat fits each of us will vary greatly...
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...don't think you can paint all Specialized saddles with the same broad brush you just used, unless you want to include all seats of similar design in your statement. I agree that some aren't the best, particularly OEM saddles, I replaced the Specialized Targa that came with my Crosstrail with another Specialized seat called a Sonoma and it's been a great seat. We're all shaped differently so how one specific seat fits each of us will vary greatly...
I've never had a stock Specialized saddle, but have replaced two saddles from other manufacturers with Specialized Avatars which work really well for me. I tried the Specialized Toupe but after the first 30-50 miles, it's less comfortable for me than the Avatar.
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Hi all, thanks for the input! done another 25 miles on it today and its better but still not great, going to give it a little longer to see and get myself some tidy shorts.... fatladattheback seems to be my best bet there.....

No brooks dealers near me.... but a few bike shops so ill start browsing alternatives, the cut out pinching is making some sense...

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Saddle shape is different for everyone. One with cutouts might be like sitting on a rusty pole to one guy, and to the next guy, it disapears beneath him as if he were sitting on a tempurpedic bed.


That said, it seems bike shorts are the same. ME, I don't ride without them. I have some which are actual shorts, and others which are underwear. Im not particularly fond of wearing just the skin tight lyrcra, so I picked up a pair of short-er than I'd wear normally cargo shorts. It basically is like im wearing mountain bike shorts, except I got to choose the chamois-equipped inner short.

I got mine from Aerotech, its an online shop, and has sizes up to massively huge, and really small. They're sized more like normal clothes, as opposed to cycling clothes that are often not. A 3xl cycling short from a top brand is like a medium in real life. roughly.


Regardless, like I said, I dont ride without them. FOR ME, they make all the difference.
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