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Old 11-16-14, 07:27 AM
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My First Hybrid..2013 Crosstrail Disc & Love It! :)

Well?...it took me nearly all day but?...I think I have things sorted out pretty well now and what a journey it has been...from dragging my 10 year old Giant RB out of the shed 2 1/2 months ago and snuffing it up toooo?...nabbing a heck of a deal 2 weeks ago on a $120 Trek Mountain Track that was completely refurbished and in pristine condition...the same one I took for what was supposed to be a short evening after dinner ride and wound up pedaling 10 miles at night scraffing sidewalks, jumping curbs and having the time of my life!

Which ruined me....LOL!...as I don't think I'll ever look at my Giant OCR3 RB quite the same ever again...but who knows...maybe...when I get some good leg strength going to do insane miles on smooth roads but alas?...there aren't many of those here locally...and while the Trek MB was a blast?...I felt guilty about wasting the brand new ritchey climb-max knobbies on so much pavement...and while the adrenaline was indeed flowing that night?...45-50 minutes of whizzing around on a 30lb bike with 26" knobbies had my old diabetic legs pretty much shot out at the end of those 10 miles...and while fun in it's own right?...nothing I would want to dub as a daily severe road conditions commuter...which is when I sort of found myself and realized that what would suit me (and my local riding conditions) best?...would be a hybrid...something smack dab in between my Giant RB and my Trek MB...then enter my just acquired last night 2013 model Specialized Crosstrail Disc...and today?...I went to work decking it out, setting it up and dialing it in...as follows...

It's cool that my Cygolight Metro 550 just clamps on any size bars and it's also cool that the seller included a 110mm 10deg Fugi stem which I opted to replace the 50deg shorter stem with that was already on the bike...and I also went to the LBS to grab a Mirracyle bar-end mirror which I installed as well...as I'll be needing that...



The bike came with these ridiculously ginormous platform pedals which I replaced with Duel-Interface Platform/Clipless pedals...but what it didn't come with was a kickstand...and here is where Bruce the mechanic at the LBS installed one that mounts too the lower support plate and doesn't crush or bend the rear wheel stays....



and the reason I swapped out the stems?...was to lower the bars and stretch myself out just a bit so that...I could transfer my romin evo gel comp saddle onto this bike along with my origin8 tail-light....



This all proved to be great moves for what it is I was looking for...a hybrid bike with CX abilities yet with very near relaxed RB ergo's...which is IMHO?...just what I need for commuting in my area...this put my saddle height at 37"s measuring from the ground up (using the heal too pedal and can't raise my butt off the saddle method of saddle height adjustment)...with a 26" reach from ctr of seat stem too ctr of bars with the bars at 40"s as measured from the ground up....so the bars are 26"s out and 3"s above the saddle and for me?...this seemed to distribute my body weight just right between my butt and hands with an "aggressive enough" riding position to make good use of the romin evo saddle with complete comfort with the pressure properly dispersed unto my sit bones and for bonus points?...tons of thigh clearance for a zero chaffing factor...



And this gentlefolk?...culminated in a bike that allows me to produce gobs of pedal power with ease and near zero worries of encountering any surfaces I can't navigate across with utter confidence....I LOVE THIS BIKE!

And a huge thanks to all those who've helped me along the way and tolerated my endless drivel...THANKS!

Ride Safe and L8R, Bill.
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Old 11-16-14, 09:23 AM
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Great choice there, the cross-trail rides nice and does just about everything. I've got a 2013 sport disc with a few mods.


Made the bike a lot lighter and responsive, carbon forks are sweet. The main thing is to get out and ride
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Old 11-16-14, 09:43 AM
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Make sure you screw that preload all the way up. And, you can make the bars more narrow by aiming that first stalk of the Myrricle straight forward, and then the one closest to the mirror UP instead of out.

Then get yourself a set of Specialized P-2 barends, short-rubbery, to give yourself more hand positions. A rear rack will turn it into a utility bike, or put one on your Trek.

I love my Crosstrail. Wish I had your discs...... Really a nice looking bike.
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Make sure you screw that preload all the way up. And, you can make the bars more narrow by aiming that first stalk of the Myrricle straight forward, and then the one closest to the mirror UP instead of out.

Then get yourself a set of Specialized P-2 barends, short-rubbery, to give yourself more hand positions. A rear rack will turn it into a utility bike, or put one on your Trek.

I love my Crosstrail. Wish I had your discs...... Really a nice looking bike.
Wanderer...Thanks!...and I don't have the wide stock steel oem flatbar on this bike...it was already upgraded to a shorter and stiffer specialized aluminum 31.8mm diameter bar with ergon grips...(that are very nice btw)...but I will look into the bar-ends though...meanwhile?...for the benefit of others here?...

With me being somewhat of a re-entry rookie at this and this new Crosstrail Disc being my first ever "suspended bike" of any kind in my life?....I had this horrific thought this morning regarding what I just did too the ergo's of this bike...where I swapped the stem out too the long low one to get more weight on my hands and a slightly more aggressive riding position with quite a bit more "Weight Forward" to also accommodate my Specialized Romin Evo saddle...then as I was reading up about hybrids here in this forum?...I read where some 200+LB riders were complaining of their lower line suntour front fork (like I have on this bike) bottoming out and with me being 210lbs?...I thought...

"Oh No!...did I just do all that parts swapping to go more aggressive and weight forward only to eat up most of my suspension by doing so?"

Now that's the bad news...but the good news is?...I used to road race sport bike motorcycles...a lot.....for several decades....and not only did I used to machine and make internal valving components for compression and rebound damping of race bike suspension systems I also became somewhat of a suspension guru to my inner circle of race bike buds....and it was now time to answer my own questions about what I just did to my lower line (non-lockout) suntour front forks...with an advertised 50mm (2"s) of max travel....so it was....

"Front Suspension Test Ride Time"

and what I did was I took an old twist clip (laying in my toolbox from some sport bike I owned or worked on years ago) and wrapped it around the right front fork stanchion right at the base where dust seal meets fork like so....



and then?...I Rode It Like I Stole It! LOL!....doing everything I could do (within my capabilities) in an attempt to bottom out my front forks....I rode over the nastiest, clumpiest roadside grass...then I even caught some air jumping a couple swales...and for a grand finale?....several times I pedaled the bike as fast as I could get it going (on smooth pavement) then purposefully threw all my body weight forward while simultaneously crushing the front disc brake almost standing the bike on it's nose...several times over...and from what I can tell?...NEVER...managed to bottom out the front fork and here's the clip reading afterwards...



as after all of that?...the most compression I got was 1 5/8ths"s...and even giving it my best effort?...was only able to compress the 50mm front forks 41mm's...so if I ever do bottom out these front forks?...it means one of three things...

1. I gained in excess of 50lbs or?...

2. My forks sprung a leak somewhere or?...

3. I did something I wasn't supposed to do at my age and I'm in the ER.

again...this bike is awesome...I can tell it's weight is going to shave off about 10-20% of what I can achieve on pavement with my RB but for what it lacks in range, speed and sprint-ability?...it makes up for in comfort and it's go anywhere rugged character...I'm tickled with it!
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My only point being that pogoing of the front end occurs when pedaling hard, especially out of the saddle-uphill. Just energy lost! Trying to minimize that makes a difference under those conditions. Other than that, I ride with my suspension operational, but preloaded to make it more predictable.
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My only point being that pogoing of the front end occurs when pedaling hard, especially out of the saddle-uphill. Just energy lost! Trying to minimize that makes a difference under those conditions. Other than that, I ride with my suspension operational, but preloaded to make it more predictable.
Okay...now I understand...but what I don't know is "HOW" do I make sure that the pre-load is all the way up?....if you have a fast easy answer it would be much appreciated and meanwhile?...I'll see if I can google something up because from what I understood there is no adjustment on these lower line suntour forks...but I'll look. Thanks!
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One or both of those top caps should be adjustable . Just turn them + as far as they will go, and back off a quarter/half turn.
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Any chance you have a part number off that fork?
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One or both of those top caps should be adjustable . Just turn them + as far as they will go, and back off a quarter/half turn.
Okay...it's official....there is no pre-load adjustment on these forks...technically...and the only "caps" present on top are plastic covers that just appear to be hood ornaments to blend into the shape of the lower triple...these forks are the Suntour Nex DS-700C-63...pretty much their low line "City" forks but guess what?...I'm still impressed!

Then again this being my first ever front suspended bike?..that might be an easy thing to do..(impressing me)...but still?...they must've done a great job because I don't think this bike exhibits 1mm worth of "Static Sag" (although it does have close to that)...and?...they'll suit my most aggressive riding needs...where the extremes will be small potholes, clumpy grass trails and a little curb jumping here and there and besides?...despite my best efforts?...my 210lbs was unable to bottom them out so...they're fine by me!

But thanks for looking out for my new too this sort of gear self!
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Any chance you have a part number off that fork?
Yep...and I already ID'ed them on Suntours website...the only thing they have is the one 10mm dis-assembly nut and are basically just housings to hold a coil spring and a bottoming rubber damper...but really?..as low as they are?...they are probably actually more than I need but still nice to have.
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Those trekking forks were never meant to do 12' drops; but, they do an admirable job in taking shocks away from your back and shoulders. They are meant to alleviate shocks and jolts. They work for that.
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It's a Suntour XCT Crankset...sorry...didn't have my readers on! LOL!

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It's a Suntour XCT Crankset...sorry...didn't have my readers on! LOL!

Thanks for the video, I enjoyed watching it.
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Whelp?...I messed up..and with me swapping out the stem to get stretched out and use my romin evo RB saddle?...kicked my chicken legged azz in an hour long 11 mile ride.....

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I don't know if it was the frame geometry not taking kindly to a very near RB set-up or what but wound up with aching shoulders and knees that burned for a few days afterwards...so the short 50deg. stem went back on which in turn dictated that the aggressively scuplted romin evo saddle be replaced which I did today swinging by the LBS for a "Specialized Toupe Comp Gel" which made a dramatic improvement taking the bike back to normal hybrid ergos and IN COMFORT!

Here's what the Toupe Comp Gel looks like against my Croasstrail Disc's original Targa saddle...take note how much more thigh room is available and how the edges of the Toupe have nice soft sweeping radius edges...which led to gobs of thigh room when pedaling and zero chaff points (even in thin walking shorts)....



The Toupe Comp Gel also offers up a far more broader and flatter sit-bone surface to give my butt more support in the more upright riding position...here it is compared to my Romin Evo (which is now back on my Giant OCR3 RB where it belongs) and yes...they are both size "155"...



Now if your bag is shagging through the rough stuff constantly?...I would recommend a more structurally substantial saddle...but if you just use your hybrid to cross a few miles of the nastys to seek out and get back on smooth roads and pull some serious miles in comfort?...this Specialized Toupe Comp Gel Rox for that!...I'm super pleased with it!

Just figured I'd give y'all an update...Ride Safe and L8R, Bill.
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Okay...it's official....there is no pre-load adjustment on these forks...technically...and the only "caps" present on top are plastic covers that just appear to be hood ornaments to blend into the shape of the lower triple...these forks are the Suntour Nex DS-700C-63...pretty much their low line "City" forks but guess what?...I'm still impressed!

Then again this being my first ever front suspended bike?..that might be an easy thing to do..(impressing me)...but still?...they must've done a great job because I don't think this bike exhibits 1mm worth of "Static Sag" (although it does have close to that)...and?...they'll suit my most aggressive riding needs...where the extremes will be small potholes, clumpy grass trails and a little curb jumping here and there and besides?...despite my best efforts?...my 210lbs was unable to bottom them out so...they're fine by me!

But thanks for looking out for my new too this sort of gear self!
My 2015 Crosstrail Expert Disc has SR Suntour NCX fork w/ remote lockout, Multi-Circuit Damping, and 50mm of travel. The left side of the fork has a plastic cap which pops off.....revealing an Allen head to adjust pre-load.
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