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tandempower 02-17-16 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike (Post 18540874)
As if students and tourists have nothing better to do with their time in NYC than wander about aimlessly! For Free! :roflmao2:

Perhaps targeting this scheme to wandering troubadours and vagabonds might find a few takers with nothing better to do and who might even be able to pawn the free audio-tour equipment if not the bicycles.

You can spin anything to make it seem negative and pathetic but the reality is that it's neat to travel as a tourist to a city like NYC and find a bargain on something like bike-share rides that gives you an activity and a different way to see the city than you otherwise might choose. In fact, once people take the bargain ride/route, they might like the bike share system enough to pay for more rides in other areas they want to see.




Originally Posted by noglider (Post 18541743)
@tandempower, I'm all for all kinds of incentives to correct the tendencies of collective behavior, but I just don't think there's capacity. NYC traffic is extremely dense and rather disorderly. Most people are moving in traffic on the conveyances of their choice because they have somewhere to be, and they want to be there as quickly as possible. I don't see an untapped market of people willing to ride bikes for the greater good, nor is there much recreational riding in these streets on work days. We have vast areas of business and industrial areas. Sure, some people live in those areas, too, but most of us are pretty busy no matter where we work or live. If I want to take a fun weekend kind of ride along the river or something, I'm not going to hop on Citi Bike. Well, I have, quickly, but not many times, and I'm sure I'm an exception, not part of a trend.

This is all assumptive. If they tried offering the free/discount rides and nobody took them up on it, that would mean they'd have to look further for solutions. You never know who's willing to do what until you offer the opportunity.

noglider 02-17-16 09:10 AM

So do you think I could start a staffing agency and find job seekers and put them on bikes, running around the city? Or do you think the opportunity would be like magnets, offering $2 or $3 a ride?

I looked around at the streets and on the subways today. Everyone had somewhere to go. If I stopped you on the way to work and asked you to take a quick 10 minute bike ride and I would pay you $3 for it, you'd say, "Naw man, I gotta get to work. I can't take a minute for that sh*t." Well, if you were a New Yorker, you might sound like that.

tandempower 02-18-16 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 18543387)
So do you think I could start a staffing agency and find job seekers and put them on bikes, running around the city? Or do you think the opportunity would be like magnets, offering $2 or $3 a ride?

I looked around at the streets and on the subways today. Everyone had somewhere to go. If I stopped you on the way to work and asked you to take a quick 10 minute bike ride and I would pay you $3 for it, you'd say, "Naw man, I gotta get to work. I can't take a minute for that sh*t." Well, if you were a New Yorker, you might sound like that.

It's a simple promotion: "free rides between certain stations;" "free trial bike-share rides between certain stations;" "see NYC by bike: free bike-share rides between designated docking stations."

If no one takes advantage of the offers, then you know you're right. Until you try, you only know what you assume.

The other possibility is to charge a premium/surcharge for biking between popular station. The extra money raised from the surcharge could pay people to ride the bikes back. Worst case scenario: you charge enough to pay to bring the bikes back by truck, but the question is whether that is worth anyone's time to load them in the truck and deliver them.

corrado33 02-18-16 12:16 PM

The list is certainly not up to date. Pittsburgh PA has had a bike share program for a while now.

http://pghbikeshare.org/

I used the bike share in Glasgow Scotland. It was great. If you were a member I think you got the first either few miles or 10s of minutes free. After that it was only... a pound for 10 minutes? Super cheap and easy. I spent 10 pounds on it in the week I was there.

noglider 02-18-16 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by tandempower (Post 18546372)
If no one takes advantage of the offers, then you know you're right. Until you try, you only know what you assume.

I wonder if I could get the ear of someone who might consider this. Maybe they've thought of it, and maybe they haven't.

noglider 02-18-16 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by corrado33 (Post 18546516)
The list is certainly not up to date. Pittsburgh PA has had a bike share program for a while now.

Pittsburgh Bike Share | Connecting Communities through Active Transportation

I used the bike share in Glasgow Scotland. It was great. If you were a member I think you got the first either few miles or 10s of minutes free. After that it was only... a pound for 10 minutes? Super cheap and easy. I spent 10 pounds on it in the week I was there.

They have an interesting pricing scheme. I think I like it. An annual membership is £60 which is $86 US. Here is the rest.

http://www.nextbike.co.uk/media/440/fares_uk.png

Charlesw723 02-24-16 09:14 AM

What measures do you go through to feel safe on a Bike share bike?

Charlesw723 02-24-16 09:35 AM

Reasons to not wear a helmet on a Bike Share bike?

Machka 04-17-16 04:55 AM

A photo of Brisbane's bike share ...

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1703/2...55f7e1da_z.jpg

Machka 02-01-17 07:40 PM

Do any of you use bike share bikes as part of your commute?

jon c. 02-01-17 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by Charlesw723 (Post 18560623)
Reasons to not wear a helmet on a Bike Share bike?

Because you don't have one with you. And it's pain to carry one.

I-Like-To-Bike 02-01-17 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by Charlesw723 (Post 18560623)
Reasons to not wear a helmet on a Bike Share bike?

The same reasons as to not wear a helmet on any other bike. Check the helmet thread on A&S for more details, if you want them.

noglider 02-01-17 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by Machka (Post 19351516)
Do any of you use bike share bikes as part of your commute?

I'm a member of Citi Bike here in NYC, but I can't use it for commuting because I have a long commute, almost 14 miles. About two days a week, I ride my own bike. I have enough room in my apartment for a bike, and I bring it into my office at work and stand it up near my desk, obviating one reason for bike shares (interior space). The service area goes up to 110th St. I live near 10th St and work at 240th St, well beyond the service area.

Even if Citi Bike reached that far -- and I hope it does one day, for many reasons -- I don't want to ride those 50 klunkers for 14 miles. On the rare occasion I ride it 5 miles or more, it gets annoying and tiring.

I use Citi Bike for social and shopping trips. It has gone up to $155/year, which is still insanely cheap, even for me, and I use it less than many people do.

Occasionally, I'll do something silly like ride it from the station near my home to a station near the subway station, so I get in a half-mile-or-less ride. I do it because I'm dying to ride and will take whatever I can get. I may or may not save time this way, but I do gain a little fun.


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