Myths and misconceptions about living car free
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Regardless of how I got there or what the business, I would be wearing appropriate clothing for a job interview when I walked in the door. I wouldn't give an interviewer something weird or juvenile in my appearance to wonder about like dirty or sweaty clothing, disheveled or unwashed appearance, smartphone obsession, headphones, lycra clothing, and yes, no backpack unless it was a low wage dead end job for dropouts.
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Regardless of how I got there or what the business, I would be wearing appropriate clothing for a job interview when I walked in the door. I wouldn't give an interviewer something weird or juvenile in my appearance to wonder about like dirty or sweaty clothing, disheveled or unwashed appearance, smartphone obsession, headphones, lycra clothing, and yes, no backpack unless it was a low wage dead end job for dropouts.

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The physician bicycle-enthusiast is more likely to drive to the office and earn enough to spend a lot of dough training for an Ironman to be held in Hawaii than to ride a hybrid bike to work in a Hawaiian Luau shirt.
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2. It is doubtful if many people who do make a decent yearly wage/salary and/or have a lot of money, and do ride bikes to work (or anywhere else) are living car free.
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Are you the poster who previously was wondering how people could possibly afford smartphones and associated data plans, or how they could possibly afford cars and vacations and such?
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Regardless of how I got there or what the business, I would be wearing appropriate clothing for a job interview when I walked in the door. I wouldn't give an interviewer something weird or juvenile in my appearance to wonder about like dirty or sweaty clothing, disheveled or unwashed appearance, smartphone obsession, headphones, lycra clothing, and yes, no backpack unless it was a low wage dead end job for dropouts.
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My CEO sometimes bikes to work. A lot of professionals in cities do.
https://lawyerist.com/10-tips-bike-commuting-lawyer/
https://lawyerist.com/10-tips-bike-commuting-lawyer/
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My CEO sometimes bikes to work. A lot of professionals in cities do.
https://lawyerist.com/10-tips-bike-commuting-lawyer/
https://lawyerist.com/10-tips-bike-commuting-lawyer/
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You are just projecting your own fears/opinions.
So, since you said "regardless of how you got there" it sounds like you might hypothetically bike there. If you did bike to an interview, what would you do to avoid some red flag? Would you bike in the interview clothes with no stuff you had to carry like tools or helmet, leave everything with the bike, stash any paraphernalia somewhere hidden? Or would you consider biking too risky?
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Probably not, but that wasn't the point of StarBiker's comment. Here's a different lawyer, who is car-free, as far as I can tell. He says "I moved to Toronto in 2009 and I’ve only used bicycles to get around here". Lawyer On a Bike: Interview with Ian Flett ? The Urban Country
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McBTC and myself have "insinuated" nothing of the kind.
You are just projecting your own fears/opinions.
All of the above are possibilities, except for the risky part. I recommend reducing unnecessary risk of being considered too stupid to act like an adult or not able to know any better by not acting like a jackass and hoping nobody will notice or will ignore it if noticed.
You are just projecting your own fears/opinions.
All of the above are possibilities, except for the risky part. I recommend reducing unnecessary risk of being considered too stupid to act like an adult or not able to know any better by not acting like a jackass and hoping nobody will notice or will ignore it if noticed.
The risky part would be that the interviewer might see you with the bike before or after the interview, and who knows, that might be some kind of deal breaker for them.
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Who knows if the wrong color tie or socks, or hair style, or tattoo or jewelry, or perfume might be some kind of deal breaker, let alone race, gender, age or anything else imagined or not. A rejected job seeker can always blame a rejection on the evil interviewer's hangups, imagined or not.
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If the job seeker is paranoid perhaps he doesn't qualify for any job, except perhaps for blogging.
Who knows if the wrong color tie or socks, or hair style, or tattoo or jewelry, or perfume might be some kind of deal breaker, let alone race, gender, age or anything else imagined or not. A rejected job seeker can always blame a rejection on the evil interviewer's hangups, imagined or not.
Who knows if the wrong color tie or socks, or hair style, or tattoo or jewelry, or perfume might be some kind of deal breaker, let alone race, gender, age or anything else imagined or not. A rejected job seeker can always blame a rejection on the evil interviewer's hangups, imagined or not.
What about the rest of you?
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It was not an issue for me - there was no negative reaction and I was hired. Contractor, software engineer position. Having a car, or the right kind of car, isn't an issue the way it once was.
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This is like asking John Forester if he would ride in a bike lane if it happened to be on the same street he was using - he can't give a straight answer. Do think it would be risky to bike to an interview, no matter how professionally you presented yourself, because if they noticed you came by bike, thev might have some kind of negative reaction?
What about the rest of you?
What about the rest of you?
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Probably not, but that wasn't the point of StarBiker's comment. Here's a different lawyer, who is car-free, as far as I can tell. He says "I moved to Toronto in 2009 and I’ve only used bicycles to get around here". Lawyer On a Bike: Interview with Ian Flett ? The Urban Country
Does a list of anecdotes and/or individuals from hither and thither who ride bicycles to work gathered up by Google searching make a "car free living movement"; or is it supposed to mean something significant about car free living, misconceptions, or anything else? Other than almost anything is possible and some people probably can be found on a Google search doing it or trying to.
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I'm not sure what your objection is to offering an opinion. It's either a fact or a myth that going to job interviews by bike might affect your chances of getting hired, all other things being equal; and as to whether "someone, somewhere" might have a negative opinion, certainly there are people even in this thread who make disparaging remarks about cyclists, and/or car-free people, so I think it's very reasonable to think about whether job interviewers might have those same prejudices. The question is not about P&R, not about supposedly self-righteous people telling others how to live, not about airy-faerie fantasies that will never come true or whatever else your usual stereotypical objections are to thread topics, so I don't see what's holding you back. Would you bike to an interview? Would you deliberately avoid it in case it made a difference?
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Did you know ahead of time that they were likely to be open-minded or even positive about people who bike to work, or did you just not worry about that?
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I recommend that anyone serious about getting a job present a professional appearance for the interview which does not include looking like they are entering or exiting a gym, a neighborhood bar, pick-up baseball game, or are delivering a package from a bicycle courier service. Unless the interview is for a job at a bicycle messenger service.
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I recommend that anyone serious about getting a job present a professional appearance for the interview which does not include looking like they are entering or exiting a gym, a neighborhood bar, pick-up baseball game, or are delivering a package from a bicycle courier service. Unless the interview is for a job at a bicycle messenger service.
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I know millionaires who are car light, and I know someone who is over their head in debt and will drive two hundred yards to buy a pack of cigarettes.
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You and any other so-called LCF person who shares this obsessive concern about transportation to an interview, the car parking facilities, and/or if corporate spies are watching for bicycling employees or job applicants, should question yourselves about why you are so fearful that someone, somewhere just might not be neutral about the appearance of a bicyclist on their personal radar, or be shocked, shocked that someone just might not look favorably on a job applicant who doesn't care if he or she presents themselves in a professional manner for a job interview and believes it is a requirement for an interviewer to ignore such an atitude during an interview.
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