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Old 11-08-17, 01:11 PM   #1
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Rad Wagon Car Replacement

Okay, I might be crazy, but I am thinking of selling my car and getting around Rochester NY year round with a Radwagon cargo bike. I found a pretty sweet deal on a used one and am having a hard time resisting the urge to sell my car and go full on bike mode.

Any thoughts on replacing a car with a cargo bike?
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It's a great idea, but needs careful thought. Are you already doing a lot, year-round, by bike? If not, such a drastic move might be too much too soon. If you can afford to get the bike first, you could park the car for a month or so and just use the bike and see how it goes. The savings in gas and possibly from putting car insurance on hold, would go a long way towards paying for the bike.
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I say go for it. Sell the car and put the money in the bank. Then, if you don't like LCF you can buy another car. But if you do like it (and you probably will), you'll have all that money to get something a lot nicer than a stupid car!
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I say go for it. Sell the car and put the money in the bank. Then, if you don't like LCF you can buy another car. But if you do like it (and you probably will), you'll have all that money to get something a lot nicer than a stupid car!
I love the way you think, Roody, but I keep the remnants of my bad habits as relics. This means I still have a can of beer, even though I haven't drunk alcohol in many years . . . and I still have an old car that I wash about once a year to see how long it will survive. It hasn't been registered in years and the battery is long dead, but I just keep it around for the memories - and maybe to use as solar sauna one day when it's cold out.
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Thanks for the replies! nice to know I am not alone and crazy in this endeavor. I think I will start by taking the insurance off the car for a few months and see how I make out.
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Any thoughts on replacing a car with a cargo bike?
Sure will be a cold ride to work or to the store in winter.
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Why does it need to be a cargo bike instead of a regular bike with a luggage rack and crate?
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It's a great idea, but needs careful thought. Are you already doing a lot, year-round, by bike? If not, such a drastic move might be too much too soon. If you can afford to get the bike first, you could park the car for a month or so and just use the bike and see how it goes. The savings in gas and possibly from putting car insurance on hold, would go a long way towards paying for the bike.
This exactly. Speaking from experience, I lived in an area where I literally could leave the truck I was driving at the time, parked and just bike wherever I wanted, because Vancouver area (Canada). If I wanted to go further afield, like, say, Barnston Island, I put my bike in the back of my truck drove to the mainland parking lot, unloaded my bike, then walked it onto the ferry.

I can't speak for your situation, but for now, I would leave the car insured.

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Thanks for the replies! nice to know I am not alone and crazy in this endeavor. I think I will start by taking the insurance off the car for a few months and see how I make out.
I wouldn't pull the insurance off the car just yet. If something goes sideways, at least you have your vehicle as a backup. For now, just ride and give it a few months to see whether or not you will/want to pull the insurance.
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I wouldn't pull the insurance off the car just yet. If something goes sideways, at least you have your vehicle as a backup. For now, just ride and give it a few months to see whether or not you will/want to pull the insurance.
It's very unlikely that something will "go sideways". If something does go wrong, he'll use a car if he has one. But if he doesn't have a car, he'll figure out a different solution to the problem.
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I think I will keep the car in my back pocket for now, at least until I get through my first winter. I usually keep a pretty tight schedule and do not want to miss work/class due to 4 ft of snow dumping and falling into a snow bank on my bike.

That being said, I am counting on my will power to keep the bike rolling as much as I can this winter and only use the car for situations where it would be dangerous to take out the bike.
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Why does it need to be a cargo bike instead of a regular bike with a luggage rack and crate?

That is a good point. I ended up passing on the cargo bike. Going to use some panniers and my old MTB for the winter.
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Why does it need to be a cargo bike instead of a regular bike with a luggage rack and crate?
I frequently carry stuff like a 40lb case bag of dog food and a case of wine. I prefer the trailer for lots of trips. Try throwing that on your rack and riding off. You’ll see what I mean.
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That is a good point. I ended up passing on the cargo bike. Going to use some panniers and my old MTB for the winter.
I wonder if an adult trike would be good for cargo and for winter. Idk how much weight they are designed to hold with the two back wheels, but I bet they would be fun to slide around on if you didn't have to worry about collisions. I have skidded out on ice on a two-wheeler before, when I was younger, and I found I didn't get hurt because my momentum just kept on sliding when I hit the ground, but I just walked the bike after that. If I had a trike and/or snow tires, I think I would just get back on the bike and ride . . . or maybe I wouldn't have fallen or even skidded at all in the first place.
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Sure will be a cold ride to work or to the store in winter.
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Yes. A layer of glass and metal around me with the heater turned on.
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Yes. A layer of glass and metal around me with the heater turned on.
Something like this?
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Yes. A layer of glass and metal around me with the heater turned on.
You can be the heater.

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Meh...warmth of the car is much nicer.
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you need to try commuting in the winter. its a blast.
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you need to try commuting in the winter. its a blast.
I ride my fat bike in the winter instead on trails through the woods. Usually groomed. Now that's a blast. Properly layered up and what not with the right clothing. Pick and choose days based on nicer weather conditions. Usually anything above 15 degrees.

Commuting to work through salty, slushy, sloppy streets to work a desk job while the road salt eats away at bike components...No fun at all.
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I ride my fat bike in the winter instead on trails through the woods. Usually groomed. Now that's a blast. Properly layered up and what not with the right clothing. Pick and choose days based on nicer weather conditions. Usually anything above 15 degrees.

Commuting to work through salty, slushy, sloppy streets to work a desk job while the road salt eats away at bike components...No fun at all.
I agree. I tend to bike to work when the streets are clear of ice and slush. Do those winter trails get you to the office?
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I ride my fat bike in the winter instead on trails through the woods. Usually groomed. Now that's a blast. Properly layered up and what not with the right clothing. Pick and choose days based on nicer weather conditions. Usually anything above 15 degrees.

Commuting to work through salty, slushy, sloppy streets to work a desk job while the road salt eats away at bike components...No fun at all.
oh, very cool. i thought you were saying you didnt ride at all in the winter. just hate to see somebody miss out. you're only missing out on the worst of winter riding. i completely understand that. i ride everyday but there are days that its almost too ridiculous and i wonder why i do it.
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Commuting to work through salty, slushy, sloppy streets to work a desk job while the road salt eats away at bike components...No fun at all.
I wonder if anyone has made a bike and/or components that are completely salt-proof, maybe strong carbon fiber or something like that. I think stainless steel would be to costly, at least from the examples I've seen.
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I think I will keep the car in my back pocket for now, at least until I get through my first winter. I usually keep a pretty tight schedule and do not want to miss work/class due to 4 ft of snow dumping and falling into a snow bank on my bike.

That being said, I am counting on my will power to keep the bike rolling as much as I can this winter and only use the car for situations where it would be dangerous to take out the bike.
Not sure how safe it is to drive a car through 4 feet of snow. I doubt if it's even possible. In 4 feet of snow, even the plows and snowmobiles will have enormous difficulty getting through. In my experience, bikes can be used in the same conditions as cars. Of course, you have to have some winter skills, whether using a bike or a car. But the degree of risk is about the same with either one.
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