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Old 06-01-18, 11:45 AM
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some can do it !

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Care lite. Current vehicle (second one I have ever owned in my 53 years of life will turn 2 at the beginning of July. Has about 4,600 miles on it. Some were necessary for work. Probably closed to 1,000 were put on during 4 long-ish (for me) trips. Currently around $2M including monetary investments and my paid off home. Still contribute the max to my 401(k) and save outside of retirement funds. Doesn't include my accrued, vested pension accumulation so far.
>>> if you could only convince app 120 million people to imitate your lifestyle America really would be great again ... hopefully you will rewarded with many many many more years of practicing this life as a quiet example to others
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Old 06-01-18, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Rollfast View Post
This is so far in the weeds it would hardly be an A&S topic, much less Foo. Is LCF a shoot the breeze forum?
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I don't know why LCF and A&S threads tend to devolve this way. It's a shame, as they are both worthy topics.
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Aren't all forums "shoot the breeze" forums? But I don't see why discussing whether there are rich people who are car-free is out of line for the car-free forum.
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I think he's referring to the insults, not the topic.
Since you brought this up @Rollfast, I have described these obliquely off-topic posts between two or a few individual correspondents as “entre-nous” posts.
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I also occasionally engage in “entre nous” conversations, if you will, of a few posts in length on some public thread
After the first couple of pages of a thread,
Originally Posted by Jim from Boston (from a now-closed thread)
I think I have absorbed all the good advice I can…In the past I have offered IMO several useful suggestions about cycling, particularly for winter and urban cycling, to multiple repetitive threads. They are usually lost in the morass of often scores of replies, both in agreement and dispute with mine.

I’m not especially motivated to read or write about rides in areas I will never visit, or bikes I would not buy.
Other cyclists’ biking stories are often meaningful to me, but usually not consequential enough for a reply. Frankly, now my main enjoyment is reading the personal clashes on the various threads, such as these current ones: "I work with a moron", or ”How often do you check your mirror?.
A usual piece of advice about unwanted threads on BF is just don’t read them. A possible benefit is that
Originally Posted by Jim from Boston (from that now-closed thread)
It takes some time to write a properly composed long post, and I take my chances that my expenditure of time might connect with another interested reader.
In a similar vein, back in the 1960’s, a favorite newspaper column by Sidney Harris was “Things I Learned While Looking Up Other Things.

The only thing that irritates me about intrusions into a thread are those that are so arcane that they are unintelligible to the usual reader, such as this recent one from the General Cycling Discussion thread, Scared of bike getting stolen”:
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Hey everyone, I recently joined this site because I wanted to join you guys in the discussion…
Originally Posted by Phil_gretz View Post
@DreamRider85 , is that you?
Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
Heh. I was wondering the exact same thing.

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Out to run another member off?
That’ll be $0.02 for my opinion please.
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Old 06-01-18, 11:04 PM
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Old 06-02-18, 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim from Boston View Post
Since you brought this up @Rollfast, I have described these obliquely off-topic posts between two or a few individual correspondents as “entre-nous” posts.After the first couple of pages of a thread, A usual piece of advice about unwanted threads on BF is just don’t read them. A possible benefit is that In a similar vein, back in the 1960’s, a favorite newspaper column by Sidney Harris was “Things I Learned While Looking Up Other Things.

The only thing that irritates me about intrusions into a thread are those that are so arcane that they are unintelligible to the usual reader, such as this recent one from the General Cycling Discussion thread, Scared of bike getting stolen”: That’ll be $0.02 for my opinion please.
Wut
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Old 06-02-18, 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike View Post
Life of some, if not most, so-called "millionaire LCFs" may not be as good as you think.
Life of some, if not most car culture junkies may not be as good as you think.

Try owning a car in Shanghai, (or any major city with a population significantly more than the entire state of Iowa), then explain how its a superior lifestyle.
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Old 06-02-18, 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by SHBR View Post
Life of some, if not most car culture junkies may not be as good as you think.

Try owning a car in Shanghai, (or any major city with a population significantly more than the entire state of Iowa), then explain how its a superior lifestyle.
Shanghai's population seems to be about 100 times larger that that of Orlando.

I imagine that if 100 Orlandos were built for all the people of Shanghai to drive around in, that would make a lot of money for a lot of millionaires, while a lot of animals would become homeless.
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Old 06-02-18, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by onyerleft View Post
Any LCF millionaires out there? This is an opportunity to say hello and say a few words about yourself and your situation in life.

Granted, due to inflation, being a millionaire these days is not the same as in the storied past of such legends as Vanderbilt, Carnegie, Rockefeller and the greatest industrialist of them all, Thurston Howell III.

But hey, life is good, so no complaints. So if you're in the club, come forward and don't be shy.
So far, zero members of the club have come forward, though several wannabes have reported in.


Not to worry though, you can count on one of the LCF Philopsophers™ to provide expanded and imaginative definitions of the terms "LCF" or "millionaires" or both, in order to reach the desired conclusion.
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Old 06-02-18, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Rollfast View Post
This is so far in the weeds it would hardly be an A&S topic, much less Foo. Is LCF a shoot the breeze forum?
Originally Posted by Jim from Boston View Post
Since you brought this up @Rollfast, I have described these obliquely off-topic posts between two or a few individual correspondents as “entre-nous” posts

The only thing that irritates me about intrusions into a thread are those that are so arcane that they are unintelligible to the usual reader, such as this recent one from the General Cycling Discussion thread, Scared of bike getting stolen”:
Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
Wut
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Hey everyone, I recently joined this site because I wanted to join you guys in the discussion…
Originally Posted by Phil_gretz View Post
@DreamRider85 , is that you?
Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
Heh. I was wondering the exact same thing.

Dance, monkeys! Dance!
Originally Posted by hillyman View Post
Out to run another member off?
Like I said, “wut?

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Old 06-02-18, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by SHBR View Post
Life of some, if not most car culture junkies may not be as good as you think.

Try owning a car in Shanghai, (or any major city with a population significantly more than the entire state of Iowa), then explain how its a superior lifestyle.
Apparently some of the residents of Shanghai and other crowded Chinese cities are giving it a go.
10 China Cities With The Worst Traffic Jams


Beijing and Shanghai Listed Among China's Most Congeste


Perhaps anybody and everybody who doesn't share your LCF Philosophy™ or personal lifestyle choices are car carrying "car-culture junkies", eh?


Maybe you should provide your own definition of "car-culture junkies" and its attributes.
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Old 06-02-18, 11:12 AM
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Mr. Money Mustache argues that car-lite living is an important milestone on the path personal wealth: https://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2011...ch-with-bikes/
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Old 06-02-18, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike View Post
Apparently some of the residents of Shanghai and other crowded Chinese cities are giving it a go.
10 China Cities With The Worst Traffic Jams


Beijing and Shanghai Listed Among China's Most Congeste


Perhaps anybody and everybody who doesn't share your LCF Philosophy™ or personal lifestyle choices are car carrying "car-culture junkies", eh?


Maybe you should provide your own definition of "car-culture junkies" and its attributes.
For some reason you make everything into an ego battle.

But it's not about ego or what people want, ultimately. It's about land use. Would you really want to build 100 Orlandos for all the people of Shanghai to drive around in? If so, why?
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Originally Posted by tandempower View Post
For some reason you make everything into an ego battle.

But it's not about ego or what people want, ultimately. It's about land use. Would you really want to build 100 Orlandos for all the people of Shanghai to drive around in? If so, why?
If you created Houstons instead of Orlandos, you could do it with about 10. Who can possibly argue that the world wouldn't be better off with 10 more Houstons.
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Old 06-02-18, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by tandempower View Post
For some reason you make everything into an ego battle.

But it's not about ego or what people want, ultimately. It's about land use. Would you really want to build 100 Orlandos for all the people of Shanghai to drive around in? If so, why?
Perhaps your cheerleader will choose to translate/interpret gibberish into something coherent, though it is unlikely anything can make it relevant, sensible or on topic.
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Originally Posted by desconhecido View Post
If you created Houstons instead of Orlandos, you could do it with about 10. Who can possibly argue that the world wouldn't be better off with 10 more Houstons.
I could answer that better if Houston was taking a lead in combining human architecture with restoration of natural ecology to pre-automotive/pre-human levels. I don't know what the ideal population density is for maximizing ecological restoration but maybe it is lower than Shanghai. At this point, however, I haven't seen any human-inhabited areas that don't displace natural ecology so the fact that places like Shanghai and NYC squeeze so many people into such a small area seems good, though I'm not sure I would still say that if I looked at the agricultural footprint of all those people.
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Perhaps your cheerleader will choose to translate/interpret gibberish into something coherent, though it is unlikely anything can make it relevant, sensible or on topic.
How is it not coherent?
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Old 06-02-18, 03:50 PM
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So far, zero members of the club have come forward, though several wannabes have reported in..
Maybe they don’t want to gloat about their wealth on a public forum.
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Maybe they don’t want to gloat about their wealth on a public forum.
Could be; or possibly choose not to be associated with a club made up of disciples of living in a fantasy world of an alternative reality.
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I could answer that better if Houston was taking a lead in combining human architecture with restoration of natural ecology to pre-automotive/pre-human levels. I don't know what the ideal population density is for maximizing ecological restoration but maybe it is lower than Shanghai. At this point, however, I haven't seen any human-inhabited areas that don't displace natural ecology so the fact that places like Shanghai and NYC squeeze so many people into such a small area seems good, though I'm not sure I would still say that if I looked at the agricultural footprint of all those people.
I'm just thinking about conservation of effort. Surely there would be a per city cost inherent in such an endeavor.

If your goal is "natural ecology to [...] pre-human levels", root for the North Koreans. Of course, even the North Koreans with their nuclear weapons won't be able to wipe out Toyota pickups.
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Originally Posted by Jim from Boston View Post
Since you brought this up @Rollfast, I have described these obliquely off-topic posts between two or a few individual correspondents as “entre-nous” posts.After the first couple of pages of a thread, A usual piece of advice about unwanted threads on BF is just don’t read them. A possible benefit is that In a similar vein, back in the 1960’s, a favorite newspaper column by Sidney Harris was “Things I Learned While Looking Up Other Things.

The only thing that irritates me about intrusions into a thread are those that are so arcane that they are unintelligible to the usual reader, such as this recent one from the General Cycling Discussion thread, Scared of bike getting stolen”: That’ll be $0.02 for my opinion please.

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