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Happy 2 years car free to me

Old 10-19-19, 08:29 PM
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Happy 2 years car free to me

Belated anyway.

My wife bought a car a few months ago and drives it to work and stuff and when we want to go places together weíll use the car, just like we did before she got a car, when weíd get a Lyft or Uber.

The car canít be a point of contention in a marriage. Itís a Buick and has leather seats and dual climate control and a loud stereo. I like riding in it. I give her gas money.

For transporting my own personal meat suit around town, I still ride my bike. My work commute is now 3 miles from home vs 12 when I went ďcar freeĒ.

Winter riding here sucks. Itíll be better this winter with the shorter commute, all in town with plenty of open places along the way for coffee or whatever. There were literally zero places to stop for 12 miles on my previous commute. And if I had a breakdown, my wife didnít have a car to come pick me up, I had to carry spares and tools with me every day. If I have a breakdown now, I can just walk. Or call my wife to come get me. We both start work at the same time and both work within 3 miles of home.
Whether I qualify as a true ďLCF/LCL adherentĒ
or not, Iím giving myself cheers for biking my own ass to work and running errands in all kinds of crappy conditions and nasty weather and abuse from motorists for 2 years. I even got hit by a car last year. Go me.
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Old 10-20-19, 05:15 AM
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Happy 2 years car free to me
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Belated anyway.

My wife bought a car a few months ago and drives it to work and stuff and when we want to go places together weíll use the car, just like we did before she got a car, when weíd get a Lyft or Uber.

The car canít be a point of contention in a marriage. Itís a Buick and has leather seats and dual climate control and a loud stereo. I like riding in it. I give her gas money.

For transporting my own personal meat suit around town, I still ride my bike. My work commute is now 3 miles from home vs 12 when I went ďcar freeĒÖ.

And if I had a breakdown, my wife didnít have a car to come pick me up, I had to carry spares and tools with me every day. If I have a breakdown now, I can just walk. Or call my wife to come get me. We both start work at the same time and both work within 3 miles of home.

Whether I qualify as a true ďLCF/LCL adherentĒor not, Iím giving myself cheers for biking my own ass to work and running errands in all kinds of crappy conditions and nasty weather and abuse from motorists for 2 years. I even got hit by a car last year. Go me.
FYA, I have previously posted to this thread, "Anyone made a commitment to live car free? about living car free, but with a spousal vehicle.
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ÖI used to rent as many as a dozen or more cars every year, but I have not OWNED a car since 1989. I take a taxi now and then as well. My wife of 25 years has always owned a car.

Sure, in an emergency I could use it but same as the guy you are trolling - it is NOT my car. I have to ask to use it, and like a rental car I am expected to fuel it before returning it.

My household is "car-light" but I consider myself "car-free" as I do not have a car in my name. My name is not on the title of my wife's car and we have a separation of property agreement in a prenup.

I kept the car maintained for about 15 years but now my new job hours does not give me time, so my wife has to deal with the maintenance. It's her car in the end and her responsibility.
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Consider yourself anything you like, including "car free".

BTW, does your wife require you to get all transportation as well as your own groceries, shopping and emergency service without any access or use of "her" car?
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I don't make fun of your, or anybody else's use of the family car but your peculiar semantic gyrations about ownership of the car that is a part of your household in order to maintain your so-called "car free" status is hilarious.
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I have posted that I consider myself (seriously) Car-Lite, with a condition similar to yours, @JoeyBike. Itís my wifeís car and I use it sparingly at her convenience, though Iím the major breadwinner.
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Boston is probably one of the most Car-free cities in the world, and having a car is often detrimental. We live near the transportation hub of Kenmore Square.

Our easily accessible Car-free / Car-light modalities at home and work are:Ö
A new twist is that our adult son who lives in our building recently bought a car, mainly for his weekday job, So now with three drivers (not including the daughter) we share two cars, me the lowest priority since I donít have one.

I mostly commute by bike (14 miles) and convenient commuter rail, and nearly always use the car only on weekends when the Commuter Rail schedule is reduced and family activities frequent.

We live in an area with tight parking restrictions. nearly entirely two-hour metered parking, except on Sundays and Holidays, from 8 AM to 6 PM; many residential-only spots with vigorous enforcement; and only one block in this high-density residental and commercial neighbor with time-unlimited parking with a residential sticker.

We do own one deeded full-time unlimited parking space, that our son sometime uses. Our [her] car is an SUV and more utilitarian than his sedan so we also share according to the purpose of the trip.
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Congrats! My theory is if you are not the reason the car is moving, but are just along for a ride that was going to happen anyway, it doesn't count against you as car-free. That's my theory, anyway. I'm heading into my first full winter without a car (as much winter as California gets anyway) and I'm actually looking forward to it. Thanks for the inspiration!
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I would quibble and say you are now "car-light" but what is most important is that you are still greatly limiting your personal use of a car, and it's not that important what label various people including myself want to apply to your situation.
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Originally Posted by Jim from Boston View Post
Happy 2 years car free to meFYA, ...
Thank you, Jim.
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Congratulations! I'm theoretically car free, but when I need to get somewhere motorized. I ride my Piaggio BV 350 scooter. I've been car less since 2005. My Yamaha XMAX was stolen on October 1st. I wasn't sure I could live without a scooter. This is my first winter cycling commuting four days a week. If they're ice, I ride the bus or rail to work.
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Nice going @Phamilton! Thanks for the report. Keep on keeping on man!
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Old 10-29-19, 08:31 PM
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Been completely vehicle-free for 13 months. Retired, so no real commute. Living in the city, so resources are all close. So far, I don't miss it. Of course, I'm single, so that makes things simpler. Hard to take a date to the movie on the back of my BMC.
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Originally Posted by bpcyclist View Post
Been completely vehicle-free for 13 months. Retired, so no real commute. Living in the city, so resources are all close. So far, I don't miss it. Of course, I'm single, so that makes things simpler. Hard to take a date to the movie on the back of my BMC.
You will find yourself with a better class of woman, once you convince her/them that you aren't just another DUI graduate. If you drive a fancy car you never know a woman's motivation for dating you. If you don't own a car, you can bet pretty sure she is into you and not a gold digger.
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Old 11-02-19, 01:29 PM
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Week before last had my first ďcarĒ stolen since Iíve been car free, my Trek 700 Multitrack. I still have my touring bike set up for commuting but Iím not crazy about using an expensive bike for commuting every day so I resurrected my old Raleigh from just the frame and fork as a single speed beater.

Later edit: this is the bike I was riding when I got hit by a car. Something about the frame is just slightly off now, enough to mess with the shifting but not enough to make it ride noticeably weird over 3 miles. I predict itíll do OK as a single speed. I plan to get some single chainring bolts, use the 40t ring in front and put a proper 16t single freewheel on the rear wheel.

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Originally Posted by JoeyBike View Post
You will find yourself with a better class of woman, once you convince her/them that you aren't just another DUI graduate. If you drive a fancy car you never know a woman's motivation for dating you. If you don't own a car, you can bet pretty sure she is into you and not a gold digger.
Its a cringey sort of truth, but IME true nonetheless. I suppose on the flip side of the coin, riding a bike instead of driving a car makes for a more appealing partner for anyone (man or woman) because it suggests they take the quality of their own life and of the people around them very seriously. Unless maybe for the DUI thing, but also anybody without a license for any reason can simply take the bus or get a ride some other way. I think riding a bike deserves partial credit. One exception being when the bike being ridden is a stolen one. Not a lot of respect for bike thieves at the moment. Iím sure Iíll get over it eventually.
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Originally Posted by bpcyclist View Post
Been completely vehicle-free for 13 months. Retired, so no real commute. Living in the city, so resources are all close. So far, I don't miss it. Of course, I'm single, so that makes things simpler. Hard to take a date to the movie on the back of my BMC.
Right now, my job is only 3 miles from home, makes for a 15 minute commute. Grocery store is 2 miles away. My wife still drives but when itís just me Iím on the bike. Having stuff that close is a real sweet spot. Sounds like youíre enjoying it a lot. I know I am for sure.
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Congratulations! I'm theoretically car free, but when I need to get somewhere motorized. I ride my Piaggio BV 350 scooter. I've been car less since 2005. My Yamaha XMAX was stolen on October 1st. I wasn't sure I could live without a scooter. This is my first winter cycling commuting four days a week. If they're ice, I ride the bus or rail to work.
I rode motorcycles for a couple years long before I went car free. I had a 500cc V-twin, and a 750 4 cylinder. I wished that I could have found something around 250cc for commuting. The scooters you describe would have been pretty good. I also learned at some later point that some Vespas had like 250cc and 4 speed gearboxes, just like a motorcycle. If I ever do want something with a motor ever again, I may think about something like that. I think a Vespa would probably be really fun to drive.
At the moment Iím without a bike that will fit my studded tires so I may make use of my wifeís car this winter when roads get icy. I have all the parts to finish a wheel set for the beater I just put together that will fit the studded tires, just depends on how much motivation I have to not just take the ride from my wife when the weather is less than perfect. But Iíve still ridden every day but twice since I started this job, now 7 weeks ago I guess. I think my commute SHOULD be doable just about every day with studded tires, as long as temps are over about 10 below. I got too tired riding studded tires 24 miles a day 5 days a week last winter. In hindsight I think it was a dumb thing to try,
although not completely unsuccessful.
Iím glad you have bus and rail access. We have no rail, and limited buses, and the nearest bus stop is 2 miles from home. Weíre actually pretty lucky to have my wifeís car. Without one, it was getting burdensome to get basic things done, always having to hail an Uber or Lyft. My wife lacks my enthusiasm for cold weather cycling.
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I wonder what (if anything) it would achieve if we drove 2 miles to the bus stop, parked our car, and then took the bus downtown. Just about anything is better than dealing with downtown traffic and paying to park. Our downtown is actually pretty nice these days, thereís always farmers markets and festivals and stuff like that going on. Itís an OK city to live in if youíre participating. We live in the far suburbs, on the outskirts of town. Downtown is I think about 6 or 7 miles by car and 9 by bike (on the trails). Forget riding a bike anywhere in the winter unless youíre brave and/or stupid. I self apply both terms interchangeably.
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The buses here have racks for 2 bikes on the front and I only occasionally see them in use. There are 3 of us in our household, preventing that sort of trip for our family.
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This is the last picture I took of my Trek before it was stolen. The day before according to my phone. In the same place and at the same time as the above photo of my Raleigh, during my lunch break. I feel pretty lucky that I can sometimes sneak a 15 minute ride into my lunch break, and itís all on the trails. The trail actually runs right in front of the building I work in and the local park is maybe a mile up the trail so a well planned and executed lunch could in theory be consumed in the park.
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My aforementioned touring bike commuter, in a similar looking place at a completely different time

Edit: if not for the bar tape, saddle, and tires, would you even see the bike in this photo?


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Re the stolen bike, I regret the loss of the bike itself but Iím also pissed that I had a bunch of good parts on it. Including the factory rear rack from my touring bike and my other taillight mount.

I may explore the idea of a 26Ē bike at some point, as sort of a replacement. I liked the off-road capability of the hybrid and the overall feel but it was still a big bike and I think Iíd like a smaller frame with smaller wheels, so long as Iím spoiled for choice on the local used market. Iím not in a hurry to replace it as my needs are currently met.

In an emergency, I can walk to work. It would take roughly the same amount of time walking 3 miles as it did to bike 12.
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The buses here have racks for 2 bikes on the front and I only occasionally see them in use. There are 3 of us in our household, preventing that sort of trip for our family.
One of you needs to get a folding bike, lol.
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