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Fine, I will go crawl under the bridge from whence I came. Some bikers sure can be condescending
Sometimes though I will ride on the right side of the road, depends on traffic conditions, etc.. Wherever the least cars are, that's where I prefer to ride!
Sometimes though I will ride on the right side of the road, depends on traffic conditions, etc.. Wherever the least cars are, that's where I prefer to ride!
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Believe me, you are better off looking ahead checking for potholes, goathead thorns, and wrong-way bicyclists. They are far more likely to get you.
While you are here, I have a question for you that I know all the others would be interested in hearing your answer.
You are riding along on the wrong side of the road. You come upon a bicyclist riding correctly. The road is narrow. What are you going to do. What do you expect the other bicyclist is going to do?
It's not a trick question. I just want to know what a wrong-way rider thinks, so I can predict their behavior better.
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While you are here, I have a question for you that I know all the others would be interested in hearing your answer.
You are riding along on the wrong side of the road. You come upon a bicyclist riding correctly. The road is narrow. What are you going to do? What do you expect the other bicyclist is going to do?
It's not a trick question. I just want to know what a wrong-way rider thinks, so I can predict their behavior better.
Oh yes, please do answer! I am curious as well.
After that, take a peek at this web site, they will explain the advantages of riding with traffic and the dangers of not doing so:
https://www.bikexprt.com/streetsmarts/usa/index.htm
Tailwinds!
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take a peek at this web site, they will explain the advantages of riding with traffic and the dangers of not doing so: https://www.bikexprt.com/streetsmarts/usa/index.htm
Here is another scary quote from the Orlando "look, BIKES on our roads" article:
""They see a cyclist and they target them in many cases,""
MANY cases! I don't have a death wish, but I still want to be safe and courteous to other riders.
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David, if you're not a sock puppet or troll, listen and lurk on Bikeforums. The members here include thousands of the best amateur cyclists in the world. They will unanimously tell you that it's moronic to ride on the wrong side.
You're not gonna win this one, fella, and if you keep trying to, you will most likely be banned for disruptive posting.
You're not gonna win this one, fella, and if you keep trying to, you will most likely be banned for disruptive posting.
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Here's another site that provides a lot of good information and advice:
https://www.bicyclinglife.com/index.html
Cycling against traffic is both dangerous and illegal. Don't do it. Just don't.
https://www.bicyclinglife.com/index.html
Cycling against traffic is both dangerous and illegal. Don't do it. Just don't.
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Wrong-way cycling simply doesn't make sense. I can understand the fear of being hit from behind, but please consider the physics. If you're riding with traffic at 20 kilometres an hour and you're struck from behind by a motorist traveling at 60 km/h, that's an impact of 40 km/h (or around 25 m.p.h.) It's going to hurt and you'll get bruised, but you probably won't have any serious injuries. If you're riding against traffic at 20 km/h and you're struck head-on by a motorist at 60 km/h, the impact is 80 km/h or 50 m.p.h. That's enough impact to leave you severely and permanently injured or dead.
Even though you can see the vehicles coming, you're at a much greater risk by riding against traffic. Motorists don't expect to see you there and neither do other cyclists. Eventually, something will go very wrong unless you go with the flow.
Even though you can see the vehicles coming, you're at a much greater risk by riding against traffic. Motorists don't expect to see you there and neither do other cyclists. Eventually, something will go very wrong unless you go with the flow.
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The worst part of riding against the traffic: cars are FORCED to pass you IMMEDIATELY .
if the car is arroaching from behind they can slow down make sure there is room and carefully pass.
but if they are coming head on can't slow down or judge the situation before passing with out coming to a complete stop first; which would require slamming on the brakes and a rear collision with the car behind them having to stop fast as well.
you do not need to constantly turn around to check behind you, that is what ears are for. I glance behind me when I can hear a car approaching. hearing is very important for riding on roadways. I wonder if you are listening to music or have hearing problems, I have never had difficulty knowing when a car is going to pass with out looking
if the car is arroaching from behind they can slow down make sure there is room and carefully pass.
but if they are coming head on can't slow down or judge the situation before passing with out coming to a complete stop first; which would require slamming on the brakes and a rear collision with the car behind them having to stop fast as well.
you do not need to constantly turn around to check behind you, that is what ears are for. I glance behind me when I can hear a car approaching. hearing is very important for riding on roadways. I wonder if you are listening to music or have hearing problems, I have never had difficulty knowing when a car is going to pass with out looking
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Of course, every one of these guys that is riding a bike now because he is poor will buy a car as soon as he gets a toe-hold in America. So few people in the USA consider bikes as legitimate means of transport and the car is practically an object of religious worship.
The thing that has always bugged me about cheap bikes like the Magna, and even relatively cheap bikes at the LBS is that marketing and perception are so much more important than reality. Instead of a bunch of useless bedsprings masquerading as suspension and drivetrains that can barely shift when new, why not a fully rigid single speed mountain bike? Less stuff to break, easy to maintain. Oh yeah, I keep forgetting, if people ever start being logical I'll know for sure that I've been teleported to a different planet.
The thing that has always bugged me about cheap bikes like the Magna, and even relatively cheap bikes at the LBS is that marketing and perception are so much more important than reality. Instead of a bunch of useless bedsprings masquerading as suspension and drivetrains that can barely shift when new, why not a fully rigid single speed mountain bike? Less stuff to break, easy to maintain. Oh yeah, I keep forgetting, if people ever start being logical I'll know for sure that I've been teleported to a different planet.
Of course, it's just silly to fret about the quality of the bikes that poor, mostly Hispanic workers ride. It's not like they have a choice about their bikes, or that they even care themselves. As soon as they can, they'll switch to cars. In the meantime, they'll ride the cheapest thing that rolls that they can find.
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Now, what happens when 2 bikes are aimed straight at each other, each going 20mph? You have a 40mph collision. That is fast enough to kill *both* of you. Breaking your skull, vertebrae or a femur has high odds of death as a side effect - and that's enough speed to easily do for any one of those bones. The majority of bike falls cause damage to the head and legs, with skull and femur fractures being common if there is a fracture. It's also very common for cervical vertebrae to break in the case of a head on impact... And there is some reason to believe that helmets increase the risk to your vertebrae as a side effect of reducing skull fractures.
It's not a certain death sentence, but it sure isn't an accident I'd pick. I don't like accidents where all the high probability injuries can kill.