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Old 04-08-06, 08:48 PM
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Reactions to your car-free lifestyle?

edit - title fixed, thanks Juha.

Since going car-free a few weeks ago I've since had many negative reactions and treatment ............ initially that is. My parents strongly objected (yeah, I'm 32 but parents will always be parents) and my brothers were pretty casual about it. Parents, it was a safety concern, well intentioned. Friends and co-workers were a mixed reaction. I had some that were quite supportive and interested in my new car-free lifestyle and would ask the same sorts of questions I had when I first joined here. How will you get to work in the rain, the cold, the heat, etc etc? How about grocery shopping or just shopping in general? The most asked was quite simply why?

After answering the many questions and getting to see my bike and knowing full well I had thought this decision out pretty thoroughly most of the negative comments and laughter, yes there was quite a bit of laughter at my expense dissipated. Still, some of my friends and co-workers, very few mind you just don't treat me the same. They look at me as though I failed some how in the game of life. They like many attach success & happiness to what people drive. Believe me I soon found out quickly with those people that bicycles are the bottom of the "success food-chain".

After 2 weeks of commuting and living car-free the once laughter at the site of me pulling up on my bike has pretty much disappeared. Now they ask me how was my ride and smile when they ask. A few co-workers have told me that I've inspired them to dust off their bikes and ride. One even took his bike out of his garage after 4 years and told me he rode to his mothers home 4 miles a way and back. Yet another started riding again and is looking to get his family into biking as well.

I realise that not everyone will understand or support my decision but it still blows wind that those few I've known for years treat me in a negative way. The flip side are those that have taken up biking again and credit me for their renewed interest. Oh well, such is life I suppose. I just never knew how much people view what you drive as to how successful you are until the past 2 weeks.

How do your family, friends & co-workers react to your car-free life?
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Originally Posted by DavidLee
I realise that not everyone will understand or support my decision but it still blows wind that those few I've known for years treat me in a negative way. The flip side are those that have taken up biking again and credit me for their renewed interest.
Now you know who your friends are.

Hey, getting some real friends interested in dusting off their bikes and losing some fake friends-- that's a win-win!
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I've gotten reactions that range from words of admiration, to complete disgust. Iíve found that 90% of people react with complete amazement that one would chose to go without a car, and that one could go without a car and maintain a functional lifestyle.

They look at me as though I failed some how in the game of life. They like many attach success & happiness to what people drive.
Even when I've owned and loved my cars, Iíve never equated driving with success, and not driving with failure. It would be interesting to compare the "success" in life of drivers who think this way, to that of a happy-car-free individual. Iím not sure if people look at me this way, but Iíve reached a point in life where I really donít care anyway.
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I got alot of oo's and ah's from people. Alot of safety warnings come with the team coaches and family members. It can be a drag for friends that transport me places. Or even parents. Its hard on them when they want me to grocery shop and transport younger siblings. I also have gotten 4-5 people out on the road bike at school. Its a group at school now, the cycling group. I'm quite happy about the way I live.
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i'm going through a divorce and will be giving up the car (and its payments, insurance, etc.) in the process. i feel good about this, not because i don't think i'll ever own a car again, but because for now it will free up money for bikes and give me a good excuse to spend money that way.
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Don't get me wrong, I don't regret my decision one bit. In fact I wish I had done this years ago. I just didn't expect such an adverse reaction from certain people. I guess It's kind of hard to explain living an auto-free life to people willing to drop 5K on rims for an automobile while going into more debt in the process.
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If you care what people think, or if you rely on people thinking well of you for whatever reason, giving up a car in mainstream America is a bad idea. If you couldn't care what they think...well, who cares?

Except during college, I've always lived in cities where a lot of people dont have cars. People who want to judge you superficially can find plenty of other things by which to evaluate you, such as clothes, mannerisms, ipod, cell phone, etc.

Here's an idea to regain some of that lost status: with all the money you're saving from being car-free, why not carry around a thick roll of hundreds. WHen people are condescending to you, stuff one in their pocket, give them a light slap on the cheek, and say "get outa here."
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Originally Posted by genericbikedude
Here's an idea to regain some of that lost status: with all the money you're saving from being car-free, why not carry around a thick roll of hundreds. WHen people are condescending to you, stuff one in their pocket, give them a light slap on the cheek, and say "get outa here."


I'm not broken up about it, it's was just very surprising to see how some people reacted.
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After four years of riding everywhere, most people just accept it. But still, on a real snowy or rainy night, co-workers sometimes say, "You didn't ride your bike today, did you?"

I just smile and say, "Yes, thank God. I'd hate to be driving on a night like this!"
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Originally Posted by highpants
i'm going through a divorce and will be giving up the car (and its payments, insurance, etc.) in the process. i feel good about this, not because i don't think i'll ever own a car again, but because for now it will free up money for bikes and give me a good excuse to spend money that way.
I could've typed the exact same thing. Good luck!

(The divorce is final on May 12, 2006.)


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Originally Posted by DavidLee
edit - Argghhhhhhhhh, you can't edit titles. Was meant to read "your car-free lifestyle".
Fixed.

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How do your family, friends & co-workers react to your car-free life?
Around here it's not such a big deal. I have several friends who are car-free to an extent. I used to get weird smiles when I chose to bike 100kms to a friend's summer cottage when they invited people there for the weekend. Now they're used to it. A co-worker may still comment on a day when weather is especially foul, but more in a matter-of-fact sort of way. They know I'll bike to work anyways, they're not questioning my sanity or anything. Just pointing out today was not particularly favorable for bike commuting. Sometimes they're even correct about that, go figure...

People I have contact with seem to realise they really cannot make very far-reaching conclusions about me based solely on my chosen mode of transportation.

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Some people will always find that someone else deciding to devate from a norm that they ascribe to is a challenge to them personally. By going car free, they'll see you as saying that they are doing something that is unnessecary and amplifying the background stigma of vehicles that most people are aware of but chose not to acknowledge.

Some of them will react badly by trying to turn this against you, not because they genuinely beleive you to be a social failure but because they aren't fully secure in their own convictions about cars. Alas it is far easier to point the finger at someone else than consider moving out of their comfort zone.

Fortunately some people will react positively to the challenge and try something new.
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Most people think I'm nuts for doing "impossible" things like cycling 30 mins to get to a meeting, or loading 50lbs of photo equipment into my trailer. Then again most people think I'm nuts anyway, why not give them one more reason?
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Thanks Juha


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Most people think I'm nuts for doing "impossible" things like cycling 30 mins to get to a meeting, or loading 50lbs of photo equipment into my trailer. Then again most people think I'm nuts anyway, why not give them one more reason?

Well said, a good portion of my friends & co-workers already thought I was nuts and have stated this wasn't really out of the norm for me. I guess it's time to convert those few that may believe I still have some sanity left.
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Originally Posted by patc
Most people think I'm nuts for doing "impossible" things like cycling 30 mins to get to a meeting, or loading 50lbs of photo equipment into my trailer. Then again most people think I'm nuts anyway, why not give them one more reason?
I'm somewhat suprised that Canadians, especially those from Ottawa, would react this way to your cycling. I thought they would be more elightened than us 'mericans!

Some people where I work at are actually envious of me being car-free. They wish they could do that.
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I'm somewhat suprised that Canadians, especially those from Ottawa, would react this way to your cycling. I thought they would be more elightened than us 'mericans!

Some people where I work at are actually envious of me being car-free. They wish they could do that.
It's not cycling as such that raises eyebrows - far too common here to be commented on - but other things off most people's radar. They know bikes exist, but for them 30 mins. of exercise sounds impossible, or at least a lot of work, so it sounds amazing to cycle "that far" routinely. Same thing goes for the cargo trailer - the concept of carrying more stuff by bike than fits in a backpack is a new concept to many, they can't imagine it. Even winter cycling - hardly unusual here - surprises many people. Most non-cyclists in Ottawa know bikes exist and are used to seeing fleets of bikes out three seasons per year, but don't have much knowledge about what you can really do with a bike.

As to being car-free, I actually know a lot of car-free people, but most of them live and work downtown - for them it's not a statement, they just have no need to bother with a car.
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Originally Posted by Mtn Mike
Even when I've owned and loved my cars, Iíve never equated driving with success, and not driving with failure. It would be interesting to compare the "success" in life of drivers who think this way, to that of a happy-car-free individual. Iím not sure if people look at me this way, but Iíve reached a point in life where I really donít care anyway.
The problem there is the subjective definition of success. I consider myself to be successful - I only gross about $10K a year, rent a small, cheap apartment, don't drive, etc - but I'm happy. Many people would not consider me to be at all successful. If you don't care how people look at you/what they think about you, I'd say you're successful too - regardless of what you do, how much money you make, where you live etc.
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hey patc...nice to see another commuter hauling photo equipment i'm a photographer in Long Beach, CA sans car and I get the strangest looks when I'm pulling my BOB or BurleyFlatbed. you'd think people have just seen an alien. it is, afterall, southern CA, the heart of "you are what you drive" culture...

when i tell people I'm carfree they usually ask if I've had one too many DUI violations...when i tell them I'm a photographer, they tell me I'm crazy....

i think the most I've ever pulled by bike is a norman 200 kit, 2 light stands, 2 pairs of folding scrims, 2 softboxes, tripod, umbrellas, pelican case with 2 nikon bodies and six lenses and other accoutrements...the combo that gets the most looks is when i pull out a 4x5 camera, box of polaroid 55 and a small cooler to process the negatives in...fun stuff

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Originally Posted by xcapekey
hey patc...nice to see another commuter hauling photo equipment i'm a photographer in Long Beach, CA sans car and I get the strangest looks when I'm pulling my BOB or BurleyFlatbed. you'd think people have just seen an alien. it is, afterall, southern CA, the heart of "you are what you drive" culture...
I had a client a while ago who spent every free minute of a 90 min. photo shoot saying, "I can't believe you biked here with that!"

Most photographers can't believe that its possible to have a mobile studio kit that weights less than 60lbs. I shoot only digital SLR, so the whole camera kit is about 20lbs at most - including two bodies and the Quantum battery (I miss working with 4x5, bu don't miss the cost, chemistry, or bulk). My studio kit was purchased to be light and portable - even if that meant paying a bit more for 4 section stands that collapse smaller, etc. I can carry the two light kit, backdrop, and camera bag in one trip and walk with it for several blocks. If for some reason I can't or don't want to use the bike trailer, I can carry the lot on the bus. Some people are so used to "the way things are" that they can't think outside the box.

I'll have a look at your sites, mine is on my signature below.
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edit After answering the many questions and getting to see my bike and knowing full well I had thought this decision out pretty thoroughly most of the negative comments and laughter, yes there was quite a bit of laughter at my expense dissipated. Still, some of my friends and co-workers, very few mind you just don't treat me the same. They look at me as though I failed some how in the game of life. They like many attach success & happiness to what people drive. Believe me I soon found out quickly with those people that bicycles are the bottom of the "success food-chain".
That's what happened to me.

The comments were just too much and now that I take the light rail instead of commuting by bicycle, I'm considered normal again. If I should ever start bike commuting again, I'll make sure never to tell anyone because those comments will return again. I'm glad you were stronger than me!

I remember these women who sit next to me really felt sorry for my situation. I could tell by the expression on their faces that I was pitiful in their eyes. It was totally condescending as someone said.
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Originally Posted by Juha
They know I'll bike to work anyways, they're not questioning my sanity or anything.
hehehe! I've come to the conclusion that the ppl here stoped questioning my sanity as well. Only now they KNOW i'm insane. But I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every seconds of it.

I think it's funny seeing ppl's reactions over time. I would often pull into the small covered bike rack where all the ppl smoke when winter was aproaching, and everytime the weather would worsen a bit, ppl would be incredulous that i'm still on the bike, and all expecting that I would soon be off. After all, you can't bike all winter in their own minds.

One time this winter there was a 45cm (17.7 inches) accumulation of snow, and someone saw me pulling in to the bike rack, and he was trully flabergasted (half the office didn't drive into work that morning, some spent 4 hours in traffic). The word spread like wildfire into the office, and for weeks ppl would stop me and ask me "are you the crazy dude who biked into that snowstorm".

Funny though, ppl stoped talking about it after that. If i'd been through that, they could no longer imagine anything would stop me.

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My neighbor asked me about car free living last month. Sincere questions, not the derisive type. She just got a folding bike and gave her car away.
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Originally Posted by BenyBen
One time this winter there was a 45cm (17.7 inches) accumulation of snow, and someone saw me pulling in to the bike rack, and he was trully flabergasted (half the office didn't drive into work that morning, some spent 4 hours in traffic). The word spread like wildfire into the office, and for weeks ppl would stop me and ask me "are you the crazy dude who biked into that snowstorm".

Funny though, after that ppl stoped talking about it after that. If i'd been through that, they could no longer imagine anything would stop me.
I bet you have a whole new level of respect both from your co-workers and management after that snow storm.
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I just didn't expect such an adverse reaction from certain people.
Yer rattling their cage, challenging their values. You're a threat. If you don't have an SUV, they may be next....

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