cager. Always on the look out for movies. Care to give us a one line synposis of Superbad. One to miss. We were in Venice in May. Definitely not a car city. For the best biking in Italy go to Tuscany.
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Originally Posted by Roody
(Post 5346166)
. :p
But maybe I'm just jealous. I've never been to Venice, but it looks like a beautiful city. I read that their population has plummeted in recent years, but i don't remember why. Want a job to make you fit. Get a delivery job. Delivery people move goods about using hand carts. They have arms with greater circumferences than Lance Armstrong's quads. |
Cager, bad time to visit Europe. Dollar is at all time lows vs. the Euro. Everything there will be insanely expensive if you are paying in dollars.
If money is no issue you might want to consider moving to New York! Most people live here car free and we have the best Mass Transit in America. Rent is expensive but it is offset by savings on not having a car. If money is an issue have you considered Buenos Aries? It is an amazing city and Argentina is insanely cheap right now! Everything there is roughly 1/3 the price it is here and it is extremely pedestrian friendly. |
thank you for all the postings. i still haven't left. I may just cancel my ticket. Seems it might not be the best way to go. i'll keep ya'll posted.
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Originally Posted by CagerTools
(Post 5362521)
thank you for all the postings. i still haven't left. I may just cancel my ticket. Seems it might not be the best way to go. i'll keep ya'll posted.
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Here is a picture of a train that goes to Venice:
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q.../BikeTrain.jpg And another: http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...cycleTrain.jpg The train has very ample space to bring your bike onboard. However, Venice itself is not a good city to bike in, on account they got NO ROADS! It's all canals. |
A pedal boat is the obvious solution.
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Copenhagen might be considered. It has a relatively nice attitude towards bicycling.
http://www.i-sustain.com/learningCen...kab2004_UK.pdf |
Originally Posted by rhm
(Post 5351347)
+1
If it weren't for all the tobacco smoke, I think I'd move to the Netherlands, or maybe Germany. I haven't been to Venice, so I can't compare them. |
Originally Posted by bmike
(Post 5348186)
I do want to visit Iowa though, just to see if ILTB is as grumpy in person as he is on the web. (but we might find out he's a dog, or a 14 yo girl...! :eek: )
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Originally Posted by bmike
(Post 5348186)
but we might find out he's a dog, or a 14 yo girl...! :eek:
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Originally Posted by Artkansas
(Post 5381601)
Or just posing as a 14 yo girl to trap predators on television. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
(Post 5381725)
Or outing college grad loozers/Woodstock Nation wannabes/mental cases passing themselves off as bicycling advocates.
I resemble that remark! http://www.pointhappy.com/gcf/GordonOnStiletto.jpg |
Originally Posted by Artkansas
(Post 5381773)
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Why Italy and not Belgium or the Netherlands??
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Originally Posted by jeff-o
(Post 5382494)
Why Italy and not Belgium or the Netherlands??
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venice et al
oh, don't give up on venice sight unseen! it's true that it's a NO bike city *in the city center* but it's still a place that makes you really think about cars in your world, and noise pollution. and once you get outside of venice to mestre (where people actually live) and on, it's nice biking country.
for cycling around tuscany is decent but living there -- you've got to like hills. this summer i spent a month living in berlin and i absolutely adored cycling there. the bike lanes are obvious, the cars are used to bikes!! and they back up out of the bike lanes for you! i was in heaven : ) the netherlands is known for its bike-friendly cities. i believe that maastricht is nearly bike only, or at least the bike lanes are much larger than the car-lanes. in krakow, naturally, people aren't sure what bikes are, or what they are doing in the road. they think i'm perhaps a stray dog, and should be run over... |
Witamy, keflex. :) That's really sad to hear in the hometown of Karol Wojtyla. I was in Catholic grade school in the 1980's and we learned that the man really liked to ride his bike.
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Originally Posted by Roody
(Post 5367847)
A pedal boat is the obvious solution.
http://www.hobiecat.com/kayaking/models_sport.html http://www.hobiecat.com/kayaking/ima...t_features.jpg |
Originally Posted by CagerTools
(Post 5362521)
thank you for all the postings. i still haven't left. I may just cancel my ticket. Seems it might not be the best way to go. i'll keep ya'll posted.
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I'm really tired of American culture. Its so sad. Someone dragged me to see the movie SuperBad... and I literally realized how stupid Americans are if they actually like that movie. That movie literally solidified in my mind how I need to leave America. You need to examine yourself. If you think the entire concept of "America" is the reason you're unhappy my guess is that the problem is you. Sure there's lots of cars and consumption. I'm not a fan, but welcome to capitalism. But there's plenty of wonderful urban walkable neighborhoods, and wide open spaces out west. Every imaginable culture inside, wait why am I selling you? If you can't find anything good in northern California of all places the problem is you. p.s. as the other posters mentioned why not go somewhere cheap. Czech or Slovak republic, Croatia, Thailand, etc. They're all beatiful places and cheap. Don't go to Argentina. That's my second home. Or how about hangin out with me and my Bulgarian friends at Barricudas and pick their brains at why they chose to move here for schooling and work instead of the utopia that is Europe. |
Originally Posted by jamesdenver
(Post 5471595)
p.s. as the other posters mentioned why not go somewhere cheap. Czech or Slovak republic, Croatia, Thailand, etc. They're all beatiful places and cheap. Don't go to Argentina. That's my second home. Or how about hangin out with me and my Bulgarian friends at Barricudas and pick their brains at why they chose to move here for schooling and work instead of the utopia that is Europe.
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Thanks. I've only taken one big trip to Argentina, for a few weeks in late '05. But my heart lives there :) I met some wonderful people there I still keep in contact with. I love the food, culture, political activism (I was there during the BsAs provincial elections) and passion of the Portenos.
I stayed in one neighborhood in Recoleta/Barrio Norte so really got to know once place well -- and did a side trip to Uruguay as well. I'll be returning soon, maybe get to Cordoba and do some winery tours, or south to Patagonia. It's very affordable. Europe at 1/3 the U.S. dollar. |
Where is CagerTools now anyways? He hasn't posted in a month, and I found his posts entertaining....
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Originally Posted by samundsen
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Where is CagerTools now anyways? He hasn't posted in a month, and I found his posts entertaining....
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