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GoDacinciGO 07-15-11 12:10 AM

I live without a car for 4 month now and I love it. Recession effected all of us so I had to cut back on some things such as driving a car. I now ride an electric bike that I bought and I love it.
It's a good way to get to work. Plus I save a lot of time not being stuck in traffic.

Denelle 07-15-11 08:11 AM

I sold my minivan in February with the intentions of our family becoming car-light. My husband still has a car, but we don't drive it all that much (and I rarely drive it). So far, I'm really super happy with the decision so far. We're finally getting used to things and it's becoming second nature to jump on the bikes instead of jump in the car. It also makes trips a lot more fun. My littles don't necessarily like their carseats, but they get very excited when I pull the helmets out and they know they are going for a ride! We do live in Wisconsin where winter will pose a challenge, but we are planning a move to an area with a more moderate temperature to help that in the future :)

Roody 07-15-11 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by Denelle (Post 12932233)
I sold my minivan in February with the intentions of our family becoming car-light. My husband still has a car, but we don't drive it all that much (and I rarely drive it). So far, I'm really super happy with the decision so far. We're finally getting used to things and it's becoming second nature to jump on the bikes instead of jump in the car. It also makes trips a lot more fun. My littles don't necessarily like their carseats, but they get very excited when I pull the helmets out and they know they are going for a ride! We do live in Wisconsin where winter will pose a challenge, but we are planning a move to an area with a more moderate temperature to help that in the future :)

Welcome, Denelle. It's great to have yet another member with experience being carlight with family and kids. How cool that they are already preferring the bikes to the car!

newsun 07-20-11 12:16 PM

Stoked to be car-free again. We bought a car to help us through infant stage with our daughter and have since dropped the car and loving it again!

Platy 07-23-11 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by newsun (Post 12957868)
Stoked to be car-free again. We bought a car to help us through infant stage with our daughter and have since dropped the car and loving it again!

Hi newsun, good to have you here!


Originally Posted by lilybay (Post 12973310)
I haven't gotten a car. Personally,I prefer riding the bike.I think it is healthy and good to our life.

Welcome to the living car free forum, lilybay. What kind of bike do you prefer?

Headphones 07-28-11 04:59 PM

I just started becoming car light a little over two months ago. In the past 60-65 days I've only had to spend $45 on gas, so basically $20-25 a month now compared to per week.

I'm only going to be a fair-weather commuter so I'll be using my bike during late Spring through Autumn. About 7-8 months out of the year. I'm still a novice rider so I don't think I could ride on snow yet.

Newspaperguy 07-28-11 06:38 PM

Welcome here, Headphones. Car light is cool. Winter cycling isn't that bad, but there's no problem giving yourself time to work up to it.

Headphones 07-29-11 04:04 PM

Thanks for the welcome, Newspaperguy. Maybe not this upcoming winter but the next one after that. I'm still new to cycling/commuting and more importantly I'm still learning about bicycles themselves.

Roody 07-29-11 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by Headphones (Post 13006773)
Thanks for the welcome, Newspaperguy. Maybe not this upcoming winter but the next one after that. I'm still new to cycling/commuting and more importantly I'm still learning about bicycles themselves.

My first winter of cycling, I kind of slipped into it. In the late fall, I would tell myself, "Just one more day on the bike, then I'll put it up for the winter." The next day I said the same thing, and the next day, and so on. Finally it was mid-December and I had survived the first big snow storm. At that point I said, "I made it this far, I might as well keep going all winter." And I did!

There aren't many activities I can think of that are more fun than riding a bike on a fresh winter day.

wahoonc 07-29-11 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by Headphones (Post 13001885)
I just started becoming car light a little over two months ago. In the past 60-65 days I've only had to spend $45 on gas, so basically $20-25 a month now compared to per week.

I'm only going to be a fair-weather commuter so I'll be using my bike during late Spring through Autumn. About 7-8 months out of the year. I'm still a novice rider so I don't think I could ride on snow yet.

Snow is fun if you are set up for it...and this coming from a guy that lives in the Deep South :D

How far west are you in MA? My daughter did a 10 month stint with Americorps/SCA in the Hawley/Savoy area and loved every minute of it.

Aaron :)

Headphones 07-29-11 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by Roody (Post 13006828)
My first winter of cycling, I kind of slipped into it. In the late fall, I would tell myself, "Just one more day on the bike, then I'll put it up for the winter." The next day I said the same thing, and the next day, and so on. Finally it was mid-December and I had survived the first big snow storm. At that point I said, "I made it this far, I might as well keep going all winter." And I did!

There aren't many activities I can think of that are more fun than riding a bike on a fresh winter day.

I'm not going to lie, I'm somewhat in love with my bike. Much much more than my Toyota. So there's a good chance I'll change my mind by December and continue to ride my bike through the snow.

Originally Posted by wahoonc (Post 13007038)
Snow is fun if you are set up for it...and this coming from a guy that lives in the Deep South :D

How far west are you in MA? My daughter did a 10 month stint with Americorps/SCA in the Hawley/Savoy area and loved every minute of it.

Aaron :)

Way out west, about 10 minutes from New York border. I'm about 20 minute drive from Savoy. They're part of the Mohawk Trails; out in the middle of nowhere but there's a lot of camp grounds.

wahoonc 07-29-11 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by Headphones (Post 13007304)
I'm not going to lie, I'm somewhat in love with my bike. Much much more than my Toyota. So there's a good chance I'll change my mind by December and continue to ride my bike through the snow.

Way out west, about 10 minutes from New York border. I'm about 20 minute drive from Savoy. They're part of the Mohawk Trails; out in the middle of nowhere but there's a lot of camp grounds.

They were based at the camp at Kenneth Dubuque State Forest. They were doing heavy trail maintenance all over that end of the state. She is currently in the Seattle area but will be back in NH this fall for grad school. FWIW she and her brother both live car free. He is based in Boston.

Good luck with the winter stuff, but once you get a handle on it you should be good to go. There are all kinds of great things out there, like studded snow tires. They are expensive up front but will last several years. I have actually seen them at Walmart when I was working up near Columbus, OH.


Aaron :)

Roody 07-30-11 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by wahoonc (Post 13007501)
They were based at the camp at Kenneth Dubuque State Forest. They were doing heavy trail maintenance all over that end of the state. She is currently in the Seattle area but will be back in NH this fall for grad school. FWIW she and her brother both live car free. He is based in Boston.

Good luck with the winter stuff, but once you get a handle on it you should be good to go. There are all kinds of great things out there, like studded snow tires. They are expensive up front but will last several years. I have actually seen them at Walmart when I was working up near Columbus, OH.


Aaron :)

Studded tires add a lot to winter cycling. You can ride in anything with a good set. But you can ride in almost anything with normal bike tires, too. I recommend them if you are heavily dependent on your bike in winter, or if you just enjoy more extreme things like ice biking (ricing on frozen lakes and rivers) as I do.

I got my first set of studs as a gift from a BF member. He gave them to me because they had a lot of wear, and he had bought a new set. But I used them for three winters, and I could still use them even though the studs are pretty much worn down.

Headphones 08-01-11 07:28 PM

Just put $20 into my car this evening, it should last me until September. A grand total of $65 spent on gas for the summer is pretty freakin' awesome.

PhDestroyer 08-11-11 02:25 PM

I've been car free off and on. I used to live in Toronto for a while, which was a city that truly did not need cars! It was a real change from the small midwestern city I grew up in (USA). I didn't drive at all in TO. I didn't even have a car.

It's a challenge now that I'm back in the midwest, because as much as I love it here, it's not as bike-friendly as Toronto. In fact, right now, I don't even have a bike. I sold my last one when I moved down here and I'm going crazy looking for a good bike at a good price. I chose a place to live that was close to my workplace, library, gym, grocery store, church, hardware store...all the things that I knew I'd need. So, I can walk everywhere right now, and I do. But can't wait till I find my bike...!

I always found cars to be constraining somehow. I didn't like how I had to keep constantly spending money to have them. It felt more like a bad investment, one that didn't return money, just sucked it away.

Granted, I don't think a car-free lifestyle isn't one that everyone CAN have. Truly, I am lucky to be able to live where I do, where everything is near me. I don't have any medical needs or care-giving needs that would make me need a car. Now, when I get a bike again, I will be able to see a little bit more of the world than where my own two feet and the bus can take me.

SarahJane 08-14-11 09:08 PM

We've been car-free since the kids were four, so nine years now. I love not having a car. It's so much cheaper, and no car-claustrophobia. Of course I'm lucky to live close to my job, in a bike friendly city (Minneapolis) etc.
That said, I tend to walk or bus in the winter. I've fallen on the ice too many times.

NormDeplume 08-22-11 05:25 AM

We're officially beginning a car-light experiment this week. After kicking the idea around in my head for quite a while, a $900 repair estimate on my husband's truck spurred us to try life as a one-car family for a while. We had worked this summer getting all our bikes ready to handle errand trips, just so we could become less dependent driving the two cars, so when the garage guy called and said we needed all that work, it seemed like the Universe was telling us something. DH will take the car to work every day, leaving the kids and me with our bikes and our feet. We live in a town that isn't totally bike-friendly, but is small enough to be able to plan out longer-but-safer routes to most places we need to go. Like the others, winter scares me a little (and next spring when the two kids have different baseball/softball schedules), but we'll take that as it comes.

Roody 08-22-11 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by NormDeplume (Post 13114503)
We're officially beginning a car-light experiment this week. After kicking the idea around in my head for quite a while, a $900 repair estimate on my husband's truck spurred us to try life as a one-car family for a while. We had worked this summer getting all our bikes ready to handle errand trips, just so we could become less dependent driving the two cars, so when the garage guy called and said we needed all that work, it seemed like the Universe was telling us something. DH will take the car to work every day, leaving the kids and me with our bikes and our feet. We live in a town that isn't totally bike-friendly, but is small enough to be able to plan out longer-but-safer routes to most places we need to go. Like the others, winter scares me a little (and next spring when the two kids have different baseball/softball schedules), but we'll take that as it comes.

Welcome! It's great to have another carfree family with kids on the forum. It sounds like you and your family have a good attitude to face any challenges that come up with the changing seasons.

I also love your user name. Very clever! :D

Roody 08-22-11 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by SarahJane (Post 13083794)
We've been car-free since the kids were four, so nine years now. I love not having a car. It's so much cheaper, and no car-claustrophobia. Of course I'm lucky to live close to my job, in a bike friendly city (Minneapolis) etc.
That said, I tend to walk or bus in the winter. I've fallen on the ice too many times.

Another carfree family with kids! And some posters have said there's no such thing! ;)

Have you ever tried studded snow tires for your bike? You shouldn't fall much with a good set of studs on your bike.

I-Like-To-Bike 08-22-11 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by Roody (Post 13115492)
And some posters have said there's no such thing! ;)

You keep posting that factoid in order to knock it down; WHO said that, besides Mr. Roody?

UberGeek 08-22-11 10:49 AM

Well, I voted "car light less than a year", but it's quickly approaching that.

I own one car, but since my "experiment" started, I've cut my gasoline bill by about 75%. Still use the van for shopping, but we pile many stops into a single trip. So, the van sits until shopping day, or the sporadic "need to leave work early, for something important" (My bus schedules suck).

I am working up to doing my commute by bike, however, and carrying $8 for emergency bus fare.

faroop 08-22-11 07:54 PM

Hi all -- I'm new to the forums and have been carfree for about seven years. My wife and I have two young kids (2 and 5). We have an xtracycle to haul kids and stuff as well as a couple of other bikes that can haul kids around. We're looking at some other options for biking with kids lately for a wide variety of reasons (I'm very short and would love a step through frame which we don't have on our xtra, we'll be doing more riding this winter due to the start of kindergarten for our oldest and after school care, we want our oldest pedaling rather than sitting, etc). We also do lots of walking and transit for transportation. So happy to see other carfree families with kids here :)

bigdummy27 08-24-11 12:49 AM

I have only been car lite for only 3 months now. We (wife, 4 year old, and 6 month) use to drive every where. In May I brought a folding bike and started taking the train to work/school because the gas price back then was inching towards $4/gal and it hit me one day when I paid $57 to fill up my tank (got a small compact sedan). After commuting for a couple of weeks I realized that it is very psychologically liberating not having to worry about traffic, parking, and raising gas prices that I started to wonder if we could go car-free, but I was still very skeptical because the car seem like a safety net that I could always use if the kids ever got into an accident at daycare or if we needed to make a midnight run to the emergency room. But after 1 month we realized a saving of $300 because we only put around 40 miles on the car in that first month. I then picked up a used Big Dummy from someone moving back to Seattle and didn't want ship it with him and felt the practicality of it. Now we are waiting for a CETMA cargo bike to arrive so we can go riding as a family-the kids in the cargo bike and their gear on the BD.

On a side note, I just recently started working in a different location. Its 14 miles from home one way. I could either take public transit or ride. Since the subway lines from Queens doesn't go directly to Brooklyn it will take around 75 minutes and this is during the normal hours. I rode the commute for 2 days now on the BD and it took around 1 hour 40 minutes. Do you think I should electrify the BD with a stokemonkey electric assist motor or get a lighter bike? I was leaning more towards the eletric motor since it will increase the utility of the bike and I can still get home in time for dinner no matter if I was up to the commute or not.

Roody 08-24-11 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by bigdummy27 (Post 13124314)
I have only been car lite for only 3 months now. We (wife, 4 year old, and 6 month) use to drive every where. In May I brought a folding bike and started taking the train to work/school because the gas price back then was inching towards $4/gal and it hit me one day when I paid $57 to fill up my tank (got a small compact sedan). After commuting for a couple of weeks I realized that it is very psychologically liberating not having to worry about traffic, parking, and raising gas prices that I started to wonder if we could go car-free, but I was still very skeptical because the car seem like a safety net that I could always use if the kids ever got into an accident at daycare or if we needed to make a midnight run to the emergency room. But after 1 month we realized a saving of $300 because we only put around 40 miles on the car in that first month. I then picked up a used Big Dummy from someone moving back to Seattle and didn't want ship it with him and felt the practicality of it. Now we are waiting for a CETMA cargo bike to arrive so we can go riding as a family-the kids in the cargo bike and their gear on the BD.

On a side note, I just recently started working in a different location. Its 14 miles from home one way. I could either take public transit or ride. Since the subway lines from Queens doesn't go directly to Brooklyn it will take around 75 minutes and this is during the normal hours. I rode the commute for 2 days now on the BD and it took around 1 hour 40 minutes. Do you think I should electrify the BD with a stokemonkey electric assist motor or get a lighter bike? I was leaning more towards the eletric motor since it will increase the utility of the bike and I can still get home in time for dinner no matter if I was up to the commute or not.

Welcome to the forum, bigdummy! (from your writing skills I can tell that your user name refers to the bike, not your intellect. :)) Yet another noob with family and kids....you folks really do exist!

Your question about e-assist versus a lighter bike is interesting. I think you should start a new thread to ask about it.

Roody 08-24-11 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by faroop (Post 13118482)
Hi all -- I'm new to the forums and have been carfree for about seven years. My wife and I have two young kids (2 and 5). We have an xtracycle to haul kids and stuff as well as a couple of other bikes that can haul kids around. We're looking at some other options for biking with kids lately for a wide variety of reasons (I'm very short and would love a step through frame which we don't have on our xtra, we'll be doing more riding this winter due to the start of kindergarten for our oldest and after school care, we want our oldest pedaling rather than sitting, etc). We also do lots of walking and transit for transportation. So happy to see other carfree families with kids here :)

Welcome to another person with kids on the forum! Thanks for the interesting messages you've already posted on other threads.
:)

I'm really interested in the new members with families. The reason is that I have a "new" family. My son, his fiance, her mother and my 12 year old grandson just moved in with me this summer. It's been interesting and fun--especially having two good riders (son & grandson) in the household with me. People on this forum were a big help with their advice on riding with a kid in the city.


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