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Old 12-05-07, 08:47 PM
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I gave up my TV a few months before I gave up my car. It's been just over two years. My sister got both of them.

The 24 hour news channels are what I dislike the most about tv. Even more so than commercials. At least a commercial is pretty straightforward about it's goal. It wants you to buy what it is selling. CNN, FOX, MSNBC, etc all do the same thing as commercials. They want you to believe that you need what they are offering only they hide behind this grandiose idea that they are public servants of some sort.
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Old 12-05-07, 08:56 PM
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I went pretty much TV-free 10 years ago when I moved into my house. First, there wasn't a good place to put the TV and second, the cost of cable each month was roughly the same as the cost of a meal out for two people. (When I was renting, cable was included in the rent.) The TV was relegated to the basement where it sat alone, neglected and unloved. I might bring it up occasionally if I want to watch a movie, but that might happen a dozen times in a year or less.

By the way, I've never bought a television. On three separate occasions, people have given me their old sets because they think I'm deprived of the viewing experience.
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Old 12-05-07, 11:36 PM
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No TV for me. Clutters up the living room way too much.
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Originally Posted by donnamb View Post
No TV for me. Clutters up the living room way too much.
Definitely!

I used to watch TV constantly. Then as I was waiting for the operating room to open up so that I could undergo heart surgery I had a change of heart. (ack! do forgive me but i could not resist) Faced with the very real possibility that I could die just then, I started thinking about the life I had lived so far. Virtually all of my memories were of television. Of things that never actually even happened. Pretty pointless.

So now I ride. A lot. I also do woodworking, hand tools only. I paint, read, work with my dogs, went back to school, and try to do my part to crush the system.

Damn the man and all that.

Oh yeah, I've replaced all of my televisions with aquariums. I've found the programming to be of a much higher quality.
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Old 12-06-07, 04:05 AM
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Minimal TV here, I can go weeks without turning it on. I do like Discovery and Nat Geo channels when I can watch them. IIRC some time around February they are supposed to turn the analog signals off...no TV at all then because the set I have is old and doesn't do digital. No cable or satellite at my house. ChipSeal made a good point about how TV viewing works. Reading is interactive, as is listening to music. TV is passive

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Old 12-06-07, 04:21 AM
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A TV is relatively clean technology when compared to an automobile, whether or not it pollutes your mental environment is up to you.

The thing about these discussions is that there never seems to be a sensible third alternative in between the anti-TV and couch potato crowds. Why not just exercise some self control and watch the good stuff? I watch two programs when they are on, and some DVDs on weekends. In my opinion, that's not too much. The only groups of people I don't think should watch television at all are very young children.

C'mon people, nobody likes to sit around reading Dostoyevsky and knitting sweaters all the time, and if they say they do they're desperately trying to impress you. Also, I know for a fact a lot of you sit in front of a computer screen for several hours per day. It's called moderation.

Sometimes I think this forum is filled to the brim with self-righteous, hypocritical Luddites.

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Old 12-06-07, 05:04 AM
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I have a T.V. and end up watching it more then I would probably like. I often have it on in the morning when I am getting ready, usually just listening to it. I don't really see much difference between a T.V., Radio, and a Computer. They all use my "free" time up. I often feel like more of a zombie after I get off the computer. At least with T.V. your show eventually ends, the internet just goes on forever, and ever, and ever....
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Old 12-06-07, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by KrisPistofferson View Post

C'mon people, nobody likes to sit around reading Dostoyevsky and knitting sweaters all the time, and if they say they do they're desperately trying to impress you. Also, I know for a fact a lot of you sit in front of a computer screen for several hours per day. It's called moderation.
Well I don't knit but I really enjoyed sitting around reading The Brothers Karamazov. If you feel guilty about reading it, keep it to yourself, when you finish continue to tell people you've never read it and don't care to. If enjoying reading books like that over TV makes me a "noboby" so be it.
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Old 12-06-07, 08:58 AM
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Sounds like some of you would enjoy reading Four Arguments for the Elimination of Television by Jerry Mander. It's becoming a bit dated, but the content is well thought out, the history of broadcast television is compelling and I highly recommend it for people contemplating the move from tv light to tv free. It may not change a die-hard tv lover's mind, but those sympathetic already will enjoy it.

Edit: I haven't owned a tv since 2003, specifically because I don't like the commercials and I feel a large percentage of the programming aims at the lowest common denominator of our society.

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Old 12-06-07, 09:07 AM
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C'mon people, nobody likes to sit around reading Dostoyevsky and knitting sweaters all the time, and if they say they do they're desperately trying to impress you.
Knitting sweaters impresses people? I should try that. I'm a chess historian, and even chessplayers are unimpressed by that distinctive hobby. :-)
 
Old 12-06-07, 09:11 AM
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I could see a tv being alot like a car. It could be a useful tool when used properly and in moderation. Its just the people who drive there car to the stor .3 miles away and then come home and watch 6 hours of crap on the tv that makes it look bad.

But if you watch 30 minutes or an hour of tv every now and then and use a car only when needed then I see no problems. I guess it could also be compaired to alcohol or basically anything in the world. Moderation is the key.

And I agree with 1redstar, how many of us spend an hour or more a day on the computer? That is definately not healthy and IMO possibly alot worse then tv since most computer time is spend alone with just a screen full of words and no real human interaction. Atleast with tv, you are "watching" humans.
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Old 12-06-07, 09:20 AM
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Well I don't knit but I really enjoyed sitting around reading The Brothers Karamazov. If you feel guilty about reading it, keep it to yourself, when you finish continue to tell people you've never read it and don't care to. If enjoying reading books like that over TV makes me a "noboby" so be it.
All this talk of Russian lit and wanting to impress people makes me want to reread Woody Allen's short story "The Wh*re of MENSA."
 
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Originally Posted by KrisPistofferson View Post
...C'mon people, nobody likes to sit around reading Dostoyevsky and knitting sweaters all the time, and if they say they do they're desperately trying to impress you....
Madame Defarge over in the corner thinks you have a bad attitude.

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Old 12-06-07, 09:52 AM
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Madame Defarge over in the corner thinks you have a bad attitude.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tricoteuse
And she is busy knitting names...I hope that mine does not show up in her work .

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The only time I use my television is to watch movies (either Dvds or VHS) on it, and this is rather rare.
Absolutely no cable (and no cable bills!).
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Old 12-06-07, 10:27 AM
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I consider myself TV lite, I only watch 2 to 3 hours a week on the educational channels. I gave up on network television over 30 years ago, since my viewing tastes had changed to the point of making the vast majority of television shows, then and now, unwatchable.
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Old 12-06-07, 11:26 AM
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TV Lite here also. It only exists because my wife is a news junkie. I'll sit down long enough to watch the weather.

I do like a good movie from time to time, and I like to watch dance videos to improve my own dancing. But I could do all those on the computer and kick the TV (and the satellite bill) to the curb, no problem.

Life's too short for TV.

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no tv. no computer-- (i'm typin' this at work).
futon on the floor.
bikes in the "dining room".
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Old 12-06-07, 12:42 PM
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I do knit, and I watch TV while I'm knitting! I have a loom too, and I watch TV while I'm weaving. Or crocheting, or doing embroidery, or whatever. I don't really "watch" the TV though, because I have to look down at what I'm doing. I spend much of my free time on my hobbies, and I like to have some kind background noise, so TV, movies, music, or audio books all serve the same purpose to me. I can't just sit and watch TV without doing something with my hands, I would be bored out of my mind. Some shows I pay more attention to than others, but I do have the TV on quite a lot and manage not to be a zombie about it.

P.S. The computer is a much bigger waste of time to me because I can't be on the computer and doing something else at the same time
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I'm not smart enough to figure out how to watch a program, and too lazy to bother to find out. It used to be there were about four channels, half of which provided no recognizable images. Now with cable, there are an unknown number of bad programs and you have to use some sort of publication to find out what your provider is showing and how/when to find it.

I got pissed off at TV as a child, because it killed radio, and I liked radio drama much better than anything on TV. Consequently, I never developed a taste for TV.

I do make a lot of video DVDs and watch them, however.

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We established earlier that you should throw the car at the TV.
This sort of reminds me of a version of Spanish Pipe Dream.

I did not have a TV until my wife, then GF, moved in with me. Listened to a lot of CBC back then, also drank a lot more beer.
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All I have to say is I am glad I got a package with DVR. I just put the shows I want on record and watch them when I have time. I found out I watch much less T.V. this way, since I can skip commercials and only watch the shows that are recorded and I wanted to see in the first place. So I don't do "browsing the channels" as much now.
All I do is read or hack all day, so watching T.V. is a nice alternative.
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Originally Posted by KrisPistofferson View Post
A TV is relatively clean technology when compared to an automobile, whether or not it pollutes your mental environment is up to you.

The thing about these discussions is that there never seems to be a sensible third alternative in between the anti-TV and couch potato crowds. Why not just exercise some self control and watch the good stuff? I watch two programs when they are on, and some DVDs on weekends. In my opinion, that's not too much. The only groups of people I don't think should watch television at all are very young children.

C'mon people, nobody likes to sit around reading Dostoyevsky and knitting sweaters all the time, and if they say they do they're desperately trying to impress you. Also, I know for a fact a lot of you sit in front of a computer screen for several hours per day. It's called moderation.

Sometimes I think this forum is filled to the brim with self-righteous, hypocritical Luddites.

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are you even in the right thread? most all of us were talking abou how we live our lives without TV I can't really recall anyone off the top of my head saying anything against TV watchers.

and I know all the cool kids in high school were into yanno knitting and reading but I have reason to belive the people in this thead might not be lieing about doing those things as cool and impressive as those things are.

and as for moderation I think people addicted to tv have as much control as people addicted to crack or heroin

now I never told anybody not to watch tv I mearly told a story of how my family mom,dad,exwife are all addicted to television.

and as for your internet assumption I get online on my phone and getting online sucks my battery dry fast so I have to moderate my time or until I goto bed where my charger is.
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I never have watched much, but a few weeks ago I stopped watching it altogether. All the commercials just started getting on my nerves, especially the car commercials. Ii still have a television, but now it is only used for watching old movies. I also read now before I go to bed, which is a vast improvement over watching obnoxious commercials yelling at me to borrow money so I can buy a car I can't afford.
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For 6 years I was TV free. My ex and I could not afford cable and there was no TV in the valley that we lived in. For 6 months all we had were tapes of Red Dwarf and then we discovered the DVD and VHS collections that the local libraries had.

After I moved to Arkansas, my boss ordered me to buy a TV as a part of my job as Creative Director. He thought that I needed to know what modern TV ads were looking like because part of my job was helping TV stations use our advertising system.

But I never bought cable, and once again I'm in a valley so reception is hazy at best. But actually I have full cable in my office. Usually I listen to or watch channels with some pretence to content like Science channel, Discovery, NTGeo, NASA.
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