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Does Living Car Free Mean Independence For Whom?

Old 07-25-10, 12:41 PM
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Does Living Car Free Mean Independence For Whom?

I know the people who choose to view this thread might wonder what in the world is going on here? What does this have to do with being "car free?" Does it mean freedom from the internal combustion engine or even mass transit? Real independence or an illusion? Or is China becoming "just like us" in even a faster span of years adopting even brand snobbery & a massive turn from the bicycle? Or might they must return to a more sane lifestyle as we here on the Car Free forum & other forums on Bikeforums are doing sharing ideas and encouragement after a long spell from sanity?

You decide.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-0713-china-consumer-20100713,0,1615376.story

".....The village people now have money in their pockets.....," said Bao, who recalls getting awkward looks after he gave people dresses that had been his daughter's. "My brother took me aside and told me people don't need this stuff anymore. If you can't afford something nice, maybe you should just not bring anything at all."

From: What Gifts To Bring To A Nation That Makes Everything?

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-chinese-gifts-20100725,0,4582908.story?page=1&utm_medium=feed&track=rss&utm_campaign=Feed:%20latimes/news/local%20(L.A.%20Times%20-%20California%20|%20Local%20News)&utm_content=Google%20Feedfetcher&utm_source=feedburner

Comment: For some reason, the above quote brings back memories of ridicule from other people as my father drove his little Mini Cooper in the 1960s surrounded by huge gas guzzling monsters & riding my bike beyond my 16th birthday (age for getting a driver's license in my area) a little later. I think "Who is laughing now?"

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Old 07-25-10, 12:57 PM
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Well, people pay a premium for "Made In America" stickers on their stuff here, why should China be any different? LOL. How's that feel, China?
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The very concept of moving from a third world or developing world position to a first world or developed world position is simply the word, "stuff". The Chinese are buying cars in record numbers and have become the number one energy using nation in the world years ahead of predictions. India will not be far behind.
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Old 07-25-10, 09:39 PM
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One of the big issues for China is that the government may have waited too long to decide they need to develop internal consumerism rather than rely on the export engine to drive its economy. Whether their nascent middle class can grow significantly is yet to be seen. The timing for the government's support for higher wages couldn't be worse. Other Asian developing countries suddenly seem a better option for many multi-national companies. Low-tech textile job are already moving from China to Vietnam and Bangladesh. It probably won't take 20 years for those countries to court high-tech factory owners to relocate out of China. In 20 years, it will be interesting to see what China's economy is like compared to Vietnam's.
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Originally Posted by nwmtnbkr View Post
One of the big issues for China is that the government may have waited too long to decide they need to develop internal consumerism rather than rely on the export engine to drive its economy. Whether their nascent middle class can grow significantly is yet to be seen. The timing for the government's support for higher wages couldn't be worse. Other Asian developing countries suddenly seem a better option for many multi-national companies. Low-tech textile job are already moving from China to Vietnam and Bangladesh. It probably won't take 20 years for those countries to court high-tech factory owners to relocate out of China. In 20 years, it will be interesting to see what China's economy is like compared to Vietnam's.
Very interesting insight. I believe the one big advantage China will have in 20 years is energy to power the high tech companies. They are building or are planning several Nuclear plants with the hope of coming on line a lot sooner than what we have planned. I don't know where Viet Nam will be for energy by then but China seems to be moving in a good direction. But you are correct there is always a big need for low wage workers for textile work. It is one of the reasons we don't have many here.
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Products made in China often cost more there than in the West
Globalization is a double-edged sword.

I'm not sure what sort of independence you mean? Independence from?
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