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Have you never stealth/bush/wild/free camped? Is this really a new idea for you?
It is against the law if you are trespassing on private property or if you camp in a place with a sign that says, "No camping allowed". And if you get caught you could be charged with trespassing ... and/or fined. The "No camping allowed" signs often tell you how much you'll be fined.
That's why, when I've done this, I prefer not to trespass or camp in a place with a sign that says "No camping allowed". I prefer to camp legally. It is legal to camp on crown/public land.
For me, the term "stealth" refers to the idea of finding a quiet place where I won't likely be disturbed by passing traffic etc., and thus can get a good night's sleep, and also "leave no trace", and personally I generally prefer to use the terms "bush", "wild", and "free" camping ... while still maintaining the idea of "leave no trace". But these terms are all more or less interchangeable, and as with anything, different ones you talk to will have different ideas and different comfort levels.
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I've learned that stress is merely a combination of emotions felt when people attempt to control things.... [that are] beyond their span of control. Surrender control [issues] and there is no stress. It isn't as easy as it sounds. Acceptance is one of the hardest skills to learn. And it has to be relearned... over and over. At least for me it isn't possessions that complicate life. So ridding myself of life's clutter of "stuff" changed nothing.
Simple is.. IMHO... a state of mind.
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Go and post some compassionate support in the thread in this forum or in Commuting about joeyduck being hit by a bus and truck and almost losing his legs.
The chief antagonists in this forum are very very conspicuous by their absence of support in both threads.
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Compassion? Yeah. Right.
Go and post some compassionate support in the thread in this forum or in Commuting about joeyduck being hit by a bus and truck and almost losing his legs.
The chief antagonists in this forum are very very conspicuous by their absence of support in both threads.
Go and post some compassionate support in the thread in this forum or in Commuting about joeyduck being hit by a bus and truck and almost losing his legs.
The chief antagonists in this forum are very very conspicuous by their absence of support in both threads.
Wha are you talking about?
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This: https://www.bikeforums.net/living-car...tant-news.html
(and Roody's rather hypocritical comment about compassion)
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Compassion? Yeah. Right.
Go and post some compassionate support in the thread in this forum or in Commuting about joeyduck being hit by a bus and truck and almost losing his legs.
The chief antagonists in this forum are very very conspicuous by their absence of support in both threads.
Go and post some compassionate support in the thread in this forum or in Commuting about joeyduck being hit by a bus and truck and almost losing his legs.
The chief antagonists in this forum are very very conspicuous by their absence of support in both threads.
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I thought I would add some input since this seems like an interesting thread.
My backround is that I worked in tourism in British Columbia for several years, and I actually helped people to find places to camp.
This is a pretty good summary of how stealth camping works. I would add to this that if you see a No Trespassing sign, it means the same thing as a No Camping sign. Also, barbed wire fences, like what you would find near ranches, are a clear sign that camping is usually a no-no as they mean that the area has been developed for agriculture. There is no requirement to install signs if there is a fence or improvements.
There is an an unbelievable amount of space to camp in BC. You should not need to camp on such places. The BC government also has an excellent parks system and an great system of free public campgrounds. Bear in mind that food is pricey in BC.
My backround is that I worked in tourism in British Columbia for several years, and I actually helped people to find places to camp.
Have you never stealth/bush/wild/free camped? Is this really a new idea for you?
It is against the law if you are trespassing on private property or if you camp in a place with a sign that says, "No camping allowed". And if you get caught you could be charged with trespassing ... and/or fined. The "No camping allowed" signs often tell you how much you'll be fined.
That's why, when I've done this, I prefer not to trespass or camp in a place with a sign that says "No camping allowed". I prefer to camp legally. It is legal to camp on crown/public land.
For me, the term "stealth" refers to the idea of finding a quiet place where I won't likely be disturbed by passing traffic etc., and thus can get a good night's sleep, and also "leave no trace", and personally I generally prefer to use the terms "bush", "wild", and "free" camping ... while still maintaining the idea of "leave no trace". But these terms are all more or less interchangeable, and as with anything, different ones you talk to will have different ideas and different comfort levels.
It is against the law if you are trespassing on private property or if you camp in a place with a sign that says, "No camping allowed". And if you get caught you could be charged with trespassing ... and/or fined. The "No camping allowed" signs often tell you how much you'll be fined.
That's why, when I've done this, I prefer not to trespass or camp in a place with a sign that says "No camping allowed". I prefer to camp legally. It is legal to camp on crown/public land.
For me, the term "stealth" refers to the idea of finding a quiet place where I won't likely be disturbed by passing traffic etc., and thus can get a good night's sleep, and also "leave no trace", and personally I generally prefer to use the terms "bush", "wild", and "free" camping ... while still maintaining the idea of "leave no trace". But these terms are all more or less interchangeable, and as with anything, different ones you talk to will have different ideas and different comfort levels.
There is an an unbelievable amount of space to camp in BC. You should not need to camp on such places. The BC government also has an excellent parks system and an great system of free public campgrounds. Bear in mind that food is pricey in BC.
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In my state you're trespassing only if there's a sign or a fence or you're asked to leave and refuse. Interestingly enough the same law applies to personal property including automobiles. So technically if you sleep in a person's car, that is not illegal unless you won't vacate so the family can drive to work
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I identify with what MMM has to say about simplicity. For example the idea of Living Local and other thoughts in this recent post.
MMM is a good supporter of the LCF lifestyle. I like this article on Curing the Clown-Like Car Habit. A good read if you've never seen it.
MMM is a good supporter of the LCF lifestyle. I like this article on Curing the Clown-Like Car Habit. A good read if you've never seen it.
I've read Mr Money Mustache for a while now, but nothing lately. It was a good reality check.