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Barlow Pass Tires- first Century ride.

Old 04-22-16, 12:49 PM
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Barlow Pass Tires- first Century ride.

Hi Guys,

I signed up for my first century this year, Woooohoooo! I know on this forum 100 miles is only the beginning of what you consider long distance so y'no, be nice!

I plan on riding my salsa vaya which currently runs a 41mm (700c/29r) surly Knard tire. Its not very good on the road. I was thinking I'd change to a Compass Barlow Pass.

Would this be a nice choice or perhaps I should go thinner than a 38 mm tire? I'd like to maintain as wide a tire as possible that isn't foolish.

Fire away, fellas!
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Sounds like a plan! Unless you're running fenders, then run as big as you can clear. Have fun dialing in *your own preferred* tire pressure
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The Barlow Pass tire is fast and comfortable. A great choice for a century. The trick to get the best from them is to run a low tire pressure with them. The low pressure improves comfort and speed but reduces the chance of puncture as well... I weigh 190 and use 35psi front and 50psi rear.
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You won't go wrong with a Compass tire. I run the Bon Jon Pass (700x35) on my Velo Orange and absolutely love them--they completely transformed the bike from the clod-hopper 28mm Gatorskins I had before. The Bon Jons are lightweight (for the size), very quick, and really comfortable. They do great over gravel as well.

It'll just take you a little time to find what pressures are best for you--do this before your 100 mile ride and you're golden.
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excellent, thanks for the feedback!
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Originally Posted by guidoStow View Post
The Barlow Pass tire is fast and comfortable. A great choice for a century. The trick to get the best from them is to run a low tire pressure with them. The low pressure improves comfort and speed but reduces the chance of puncture as well... I weigh 190 and use 35psi front and 50psi rear.

Have you been using their standard casing, or extralight? Thanks.
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keep us updated .... I will be needing new tyres for my Surly LHT and am keen on the Compass tyres. (Rat Trap Pass if they will fit in my 60mm wide fenders)

What worries me though is that I want tyres that offer good puncture resistance and have not found much info in this regard on the Compass tyres
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Originally Posted by Craptacular8 View Post
Have you been using their standard casing, or extralight? Thanks.
I have used both the extralight and standard. Both are great but the EL is a touch greater... The standard is said to offer a bit better sidewall protection. I've never had a flat with either...
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Originally Posted by dim View Post
keep us updated .... I will be needing new tyres for my Surly LHT and am keen on the Compass tyres. (Rat Trap Pass if they will fit in my 60mm wide fenders)

What worries me though is that I want tyres that offer good puncture resistance and have not found much info in this regard on the Compass tyres
There are two schools of thought on the issue of puncture protection. One school feels that to provide puncture protection a belt of extra strong material like kevlar needs to be used under the tread. This school is associated with traditional narrow high pressure tires normally associated with "racing" bikes. The other school feels that running at a lower pressure eliminates the requirement for special belts because the lower pressure reduces the tendency for sharp bits to be driven into the tread, preventing it from working it's way in further and causing a flat... The Compass high volume tires are made to reflect this second school of thought...
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Originally Posted by guidoStow View Post
There are two schools of thought on the issue of puncture protection. One school feels that to provide puncture protection a belt of extra strong material like kevlar needs to be used under the tread. This school is associated with traditional narrow high pressure tires normally associated with "racing" bikes. The other school feels that running at a lower pressure eliminates the requirement for special belts because the lower pressure reduces the tendency for sharp bits to be driven into the tread, preventing it from working it's way in further and causing a flat... The Compass high volume tires are made to reflect this second school of thought...
so how do these compare (puncture resistance wise) to Schwalbe marathon plus?
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so how do these compare (puncture resistance wise) to Schwalbe marathon plus?
For me marathon plus tires would last for ever, because they are so dead to ride that I would never use them. I bought two different sized sets that I got when I first got a large tire clearance bike, I rode one of teh sets once and immediately went in and ordered a set of Compass tires for that bike and never rode the marathons again (I just gave them away to friend who wanted to try them and he had the same reaction).
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Originally Posted by guidoStow View Post
For me marathon plus tires would last for ever, because they are so dead to ride that I would never use them. I bought two different sized sets that I got when I first got a large tire clearance bike, I rode one of teh sets once and immediately went in and ordered a set of Compass tires for that bike and never rode the marathons again (I just gave them away to friend who wanted to try them and he had the same reaction).
yea.... but you have not answered my question .... how do compass tyres compare to Marathon Plus as regards puncture resistance?

I'm not too concerned about going 2 miles an hour faster, as if I want to do so, I will peddle faster..... my bike is a touring bike with fenders, panniers, and soon to be fitted dynamo hub with wires/cables etc .... a puncture would be a great setback as I would have to remove several items before removing the wheel
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the schwalbe would definitely have better puncture protection. Many regulars in this forum are very interested in conserving energy due to the distances they ride in a day. If you are riding 250 miles one day and have to do it the next day, 2 miles an hour is huge, and just using more leg power is not the answer. If you are riding 60 miles in one day and have to do it again the next day, flats might be a bigger consideration. However, that's more of a subject for the Touring forum. New tires of any construction tend to be more resistant to flats. The Marathons will still be resistant to flats long after the Compass bikes are on the trash heap, that's just the nature of these tires.
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the schwalbe would definitely have better puncture protection. Many regulars in this forum are very interested in conserving energy due to the distances they ride in a day. If you are riding 250 miles one day and have to do it the next day, 2 miles an hour is huge, and just using more leg power is not the answer. If you are riding 60 miles in one day and have to do it again the next day, flats might be a bigger consideration. However, that's more of a subject for the Touring forum. New tires of any construction tend to be more resistant to flats. The Marathons will still be resistant to flats long after the Compass bikes are on the trash heap, that's just the nature of these tires.
thanks .... that explains it better .... I have been looking very closely at compass tyres, but puncture resistance is more important for my bike as it's a touring bike with lots of accessories/add ons, and a puncture will be a big hassle

looks like I will end up getting Marathon plus
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Originally Posted by guidoStow View Post
I have used both the extralight and standard. Both are great but the EL is a touch greater... The standard is said to offer a bit better sidewall protection. I've never had a flat with either...

Thanks. Compass says these are muti-surface tires...tempted to try them on gravel when I wear out my current set, thanks.
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the schwalbe would definitely have better puncture protection. Many regulars in this forum are very interested in conserving energy due to the distances they ride in a day. If you are riding 250 miles one day and have to do it the next day, 2 miles an hour is huge, and just using more leg power is not the answer. If you are riding 60 miles in one day and have to do it again the next day, flats might be a bigger consideration. However, that's more of a subject for the Touring forum. New tires of any construction tend to be more resistant to flats. The Marathons will still be resistant to flats long after the Compass bikes are on the trash heap, that's just the nature of these tires.
Yeah. I have marathons on my city bike, because it rides over all sorts of crap, and most rides are 3 miles to the grocery and back sorts of things, where I really do not want to have a flat. I had Compass tires on my brevet bike -- am trying Panaracer Gravelkings (which are similar to Compass tires but a little heavier/tougher) out this year, in part because I had surgery on one hand and changing tires is a lot harder than it was before.
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I have a bike that I would like to fit 700x40mm-ish tires on. I think Panaracer just introduced a 40mm Gravelking slick, so maybe I will try those. Rather not scale back from what I have now to 35mm
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