Notices
Long Distance Competition/Ultracycling, Randonneuring and Endurance Cycling Do you enjoy centuries, double centuries, brevets, randonnees, and 24-hour time trials? Share ride reports, and exchange training, equipment, and nutrition information specific to long distance cycling. This isn't for tours, this is for endurance events cycling

Anyone know about this saddle bag?

Old 04-17-19, 04:49 AM
  #1  
Kamen Rider
Thread Starter
 
atwl77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: KL, MY
Posts: 1,071

Bikes: Fuji Transonic Elite, Marechal Soul Ultimate, Dahon Dash Altena

Liked 277 Times in 164 Posts
Anyone know about this saddle bag?

https://www.rapha.cc/ap/en_AU/shop/w...uct/BSD01XXBLK

Couple of things I like about it compared to my existing bag:
- the two-piece design appears to make it a lot easier or less fiddly to quickly access stuff in the bag and then secure the bag again
- from the description text there appears to be an aluminum frame which would prevent sagging, which in turn results in rubbing the rear wheel, if the contents of the bag aren't neatly organized

However, some things I don't get, and need feedback on:
- according to the Q&A someone asked for the capacity and got quoted 15L...... but from the pictures it just doesn't look/feel like it. Seems about equal or (shorter?) than my Topeak 10L Backloader, so I'm a bit cautious about that.
- based on Rapha's previous line of saddles, shoes and helmets, I'm guessing this one is also a rebranded product. Does anyone know the original manufacturer?
atwl77 is offline  
Old 07-09-19, 08:25 PM
  #2  
Kamen Rider
Thread Starter
 
atwl77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: KL, MY
Posts: 1,071

Bikes: Fuji Transonic Elite, Marechal Soul Ultimate, Dahon Dash Altena

Liked 277 Times in 164 Posts
I had forgotten I made this post until now. I received the bag last week and it is somewhat disappointing.

One one hand, its advantages is as I have observed in my OP. Also, capacity seems legit, though it would probably take some very careful and efficient packing to fit 15L worth of stuff in the bag... 10-12L seems like a more practical number.

But on the other hand, the bag comes with no light attachment loops. Big oversight for a bag designed for long distance. On their website, the FAQ suggests attaching lights to the straps, but some issues with that:

1. The main rear strap is a vertical strap running from top to bottom of the bag, no not much you can attach there unless you use some physical means of preventing an attached light from sliding down the strap (sewing, glue, etc).

2. The two straps by the side that hook onto the saddle rails are far too deep inside, if you want to attach lights there you would need to use a pair of lights on each side since a single light on one side will not be visible from the other side.

Oh, and speaking of straps, the seat post strap is incredibly short. It covers the full velcro patch without seat post, meaning with even a small and narrow seat post you won't get the strap to reach the full velcro patch. On wider aero seat posts, it barely reaches the velcro strip.

Last edited by atwl77; 07-09-19 at 08:33 PM.
atwl77 is offline  
Old 07-10-19, 08:12 AM
  #3  
rhm
multimodal commuter
 
rhm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: NJ, NYC, LI
Posts: 19,809

Bikes: 1940s Fothergill, 1959 Allegro Special, 1963? Claud Butler Olympic Sprint, Lambert 'Clubman', 1974 Fuji "the Ace", 1976 Holdsworth 650b conversion rando bike, 1983 Trek 720 tourer, 1984 Counterpoint Opus II, 1993 Basso Gap, 2010 Downtube 8h, and...

Liked 575 Times in 340 Posts
Thanks for the follow-up!

I use a much cheaper saddle bag, and I have similar misgivings about it.
rhm is offline  
Old 07-10-19, 08:27 AM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
clasher's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Kitchener, ON
Posts: 2,738
Liked 148 Times in 103 Posts
I just bought a similar bag, this axiom seymour seatpack. I loaded it up and rode 220k with it and it was pretty good, it didn't sway too much when I used the pull straps to compress the bag and as long as I packed the heavy stuff at the bottom it didn't wag me too much unless I was sprinting out of the saddle, which isn't something I do very often. The axiom bag has a strap for a light at the back which is nice, now I need to buy a light with a good clip. The only thing about this bag that I didn't really like was putting my multi-tool at the bottom since it's heavy, I had to unpack everything else to get it out. I might get one of those little top-tube bags and use that for a tool/tube bag when doing long distances. The 3 seatpost straps on the axiom bag seem pretty good and give some flexibility on how it's mounted... the ends don't have anything to tuck into which is the only complain I have about it, but they are long enough to go around a big seatpost or an aero ones I imagine.

It was a bit more of a pain to get stuff from the bag than it is with my dill pickle saddlebag. Unfortunately I don't ride a saddle with the bag loops anymore so it hangs lower when I use the bolt-on loops that attach to the rails. I also don't have a fender or anything to keep the bag from sagging onto my rear tire so it will rub if I am not careful with loading it up. I still use it on my gravel bike since I run fenders and can easily mount a little rack to support that bag better but putting a rack on my road bike is too much trouble.
clasher is offline  
Old 07-10-19, 09:02 AM
  #5  
Kamen Rider
Thread Starter
 
atwl77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: KL, MY
Posts: 1,071

Bikes: Fuji Transonic Elite, Marechal Soul Ultimate, Dahon Dash Altena

Liked 277 Times in 164 Posts
That Axiom bag looks similar to my current Topeak Backloader bags, with the two same annoyances - pain to access stuff, have to be careful packing to avoid sagging - which is the reason I was looking for alternatives.

But at least the Topeak has several light attachment loops and side pockets to stash loose straps. I might just end up continuing to use the Topeak bag for PBP.
atwl77 is offline  
Old 07-10-19, 09:23 AM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
clasher's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Kitchener, ON
Posts: 2,738
Liked 148 Times in 103 Posts
Yeah, since I didn't use the full capacity of that bag and I compressed it a lot the extra straps were kind of annoying, but they easily stashed in the elastic part of the top. I bought my bag for PBP so I might end up using a couple of thin bags inside this big one to keep stuff a bit more organized... but also I don't know how much stuff I will be bringing so this bag might just be a bit too much for me since I have two drop bags on the course.
clasher is offline  
Old 07-15-19, 07:55 AM
  #7  
2k miles from the midwest
 
Dylansbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Washington
Posts: 1,964

Bikes: ~'75 Colin Laing, '80s Schwinn SuperSport 650b, ex-Backroads ti project...

Liked 933 Times in 447 Posts
Just get a Revelate.
Dylansbob is offline  
Old 07-15-19, 10:07 AM
  #8  
Randomhead
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Happy Valley, Pennsylvania
Posts: 24,668
Liked 3,897 Times in 2,655 Posts
I'm using a Revelate Vischacha. I'm not sure how widely available they are in the rest of the world though. Lots of companies have copied it. I was interested in the Ortlieb copy for a while. The secret to the Revelate is thei nterior strap. I still think it could be a little easier to use, but I try to keep things organized by bags and put the stuff that I'm less likely to use further into the bag.

I would say the main annoyance I have with it is the spot tracker bag doesn't always face the sky if the bag isn't pretty full.
unterhausen is offline  
Old 07-15-19, 07:17 PM
  #9  
Zoom zoom zoom zoom bonk
 
znomit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 4,695

Bikes: Giant Defy, Trek 1.7c, BMC GF02, Trek Marlin 6, Scott Sub 35, Kona Rove, Trek Verve+2

Liked 771 Times in 389 Posts
Originally Posted by unterhausen
I'm using a Revelate Vischacha. I'm not sure how widely available they are in the rest of the world though.
Revelate have discontinued the Vischacha and the Pica. Get em while you can still find them. They now have the vole, which is 7l, or the terrapins (8/14l), but there are plenty of similar bags out there.
https://www.revelatedesigns.com/inde...alog/Seat-Bags

I usually use a Pika for 300+ rides, but got a 15l Topeak Backloader for a weekend away and will probably use it for 4/600s if I anticipate needing extra cold weather gear (thermal bibs and jacket).
znomit is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Stand
Touring
4
11-04-17 09:53 PM
jefnvk
Touring
25
08-08-17 08:16 PM
ZippyThePinhead
Classic & Vintage
2
07-07-16 11:37 AM
Nassa
Road Cycling
17
07-01-16 12:44 PM
nightfly
Singlespeed & Fixed Gear
9
04-10-10 10:55 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Your Privacy Choices -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.