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ETAs for centuries with 8 to 14k ft elevation gain

Old 08-12-19, 11:24 AM
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ETAs for centuries with 8 to 14k ft elevation gain

I live in a mountainous area, so my centuries always include either 8,500 or 13,500 ft of elevation gain, depending on the route I take. Anybody know what usual ETA ranges or maximum event times are for such routes?
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Old 08-12-19, 01:17 PM
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Check out the finish times for the Mulholland Challenge: 113 miles, 13,500 feet:

2019 Mulholland Challenge Results
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What kind of event is this?
For me- 100 miles under "normal" conditions, including stopping at stores for food, etc., I'll seldom do any better than 7 hours, and don't usually go over 8 hours unless there's some kind of major wind problem. That includes a bunch of little hills, but nothing too steep or too long. For a fully-supported ride, maybe a little faster due to toting less stuff with me. And that's more or less equivalent to 9 hours/10 hours on a 200k.
Adding in the 8,500', probably another hour on top of that.
For the 13,500', probably another hour on top of THAT.
And if anything's too steep for my normal gearing, that's going to get slower yet.
And if it's not paved and I have to bring my gravel tires, it'll get a little slower yet.
Comparing somebody else's race results to my just-riding-around speed isn't too enlightening.
I've seen in some of the races, they'll have 200 mile events, and just assume that everyone's going to start and finish in daylight, and some of us just don't normally ride 200 miles in the daylight.
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Originally Posted by StephenH View Post
What kind of event is this?
Mulholland Challenge is a timed, supported ride. Some people race it for time, others ride it for pleasure. Fastest times are under 7 hours, slowest are about 12 hours.
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I rode a comparably hilly century in 7:25 riding time. It took about about 9.5 hours total as we had friends in the feed stations and got chatting to them. Had we not had friends at the feed station, it probably would have taken us just over 8 hours as we would have just shovels food in our faces, refilled water bottles and headed on our way
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Originally Posted by terrymorse View Post
Mulholland Challenge is a timed, supported ride. Some people race it for time, others ride it for pleasure. Fastest times are under 7 hours, slowest are about 12 hours.
I meant, what kind of event is el forestero's ride in Japan?
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My very basic formula for guesstimating ride duration: (assumes a solo endurance distance avg. speed of ~17mph)
Every 25 miles = 1.5 hours
Every 1,000' of elevation = .5 hours

So a ride that's 100 miles with 13,000' of elevation gain = ((100mi/25mi) * 1.5hrs) + ((13,000'/1,000') * .5hrs) = 12.5 hrs

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101 miles, 9,557ft^, 7h25m
109 miles, 6,130ft^, 6h57m

...and as I usually make a determined effort to keep high mileage and big elevation gains separate, that's all I've got.

I do know that locally, the Tour de Big Bear (109 miles, 10,000 feet) has a 10 hour cutoff. Not a "hard cutoff," just that when you got back to the start/finish, everything would be closed and most everyone would be gone. This year a just a small handful finished in the 9h30m - 10h range, most were 7-8 hours.
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Thanks for the helpful input, all. Preparing for some Mt Fuji-area rides.
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100 miles/ 10,000 ft 7:10.............I did Ride Around the Bear 4 times. Best time was 7:10 ride time and 7:38 official time. Not bad for a 230 pound Clydesdale. Finished #123 out of 400 participants. I believe the slowest person was over 11 hours.

This was before they sissified the Big Bear ride!

Later I did Breathless Agony 12,000 ft gain in 72 miles. Not much training but finished the event at mile 72 in 8:15......They stop the time at the top of the climb to prevent injuries as riders may want to race down the hill. There is a 40 mile downhill to complete the 112 miles but I don't recall what the total time was.

I will say it is hard to gauge oneself to others on forums and that have completed the rides in the past. I trained with several forum members who could beat me up a 20 mile climb with 5,000 ft of gain thinking they would top me on the timed events. Some even on 7,000 ft rides. But on the actual event, endurance and strength allowed me to complete the rides whereas the rabbits on the training rides failed to complete the entire 10,000 and 12,000 ft rides.

So don't make the mistake of comparing or even gauging yourself to others on the forums as far as ride times etc.

Matter of fact, I know a current poster who does better on lesser climbs around here, but he failed to complete Breathless Agony.

The rides:

This was a real fun ride and my favorite till they did away with it couple years back.



This is Breathless Agony. Time stops at mile 72, top of the climbs.

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I prefer my big climbing days to be a couple of dozencycles of 400 foot climbs here in Pittsburgh so I never have to gasp above 1,500 feet to climb 12,000 feet! I guess these are sawtooth climbing days, up, down, up, down, up....
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We're running a 200 km randonnee with 4,249 m (13940 feet) of climbing.

The maximum time limit is 13.5 hours.
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I rode the Double Fudge Cookie Fondo a few weeks ago. 110 miles and 10,570'. Pretty sure I was among the last finishers with an elapsed time of 9:12. Although nobody was keeping track, I'm also pretty confident I ate the among most cookies.
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